All time Prem 11 - 442

[Captain Howdy]

So many good and great players and no end of combinations are worthy of debate  but imo there are four that  are unquestionable, Schmeical, Gerrard, Shearer and Henry get in every side, they are the four greatest PL players.

[aRdja]

6 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

So many good and great players and no end of combinations are worthy of debate  but imo there are four that  are unquestionable, Schmeical, Gerrard, Shearer and Henry, they are the four greatest PL players.

Shearer is questionable IMO. He was never at any point as good as Suarez in his last two seasons with us.

[Captain Howdy]

One word, longevity

[Captain Howdy]

And I don’t know how old you are ( I was suspicious of your De Gea nonsense) but never underestimate how good Shearer was, he was a fucking beast and in his Blackburn days was every bit as devastating as Suarez

[aRdja]

31 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

And I don’t know how old you are ( I was suspicious of your De Gea nonsense) but never underestimate how good Shearer was, he was a fucking beast and in his Blackburn days was every bit as devastating as Suarez

34, so I saw a bit of Shearer.

[TheHowieLama]

The couple seasons around the title year Shearer was dominant in England. Not necessarily when the league was at its strongest.

And never played for a club that even had a sniff of competing outside of England. He did have the good tournament during that stretch but I dont think he would have walked into the top team in the world the way Suarez did. 

 

[Jairzinho]

Shearer is another like Giggs that benefits from it being a 4-4-2. 

 

Absolutely no chance I´d pick him in an all time Premier League XI in a 433 or 4321. Mainly because I wouldn´t actually be picking any wingers.

[Captain Howdy]

Shearer was insane, red lights and alarm bells whenever the ball came anywhere near him, I really dunno what else to tell you.

[3 Stacks]

On 10/18/2018 at 9:54 AM, 3 Stacks said:

               Berbatov           Balotelli

 

Nasri       Anderson           Diarra             Ben Arfa

 

 

Assou-Ekotto    Sakho        David Luiz      Walker

 

                              Almunia

In all seriousness and only of the players I've seen at their best:

 

                        van Persie              Suarez

 

Bale             Kante                          Yaya                  Ronaldo

                  

 

Cole             Ferdinand                      Vidic                Ivanovic

                                        De Gea

 

 

van Persie to me was the opposing player I was most worried about for some reason. Also, Ronaldo left before I really started watching but he's obviously better than anyone else. 

[Elite]

16 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

Shearer was insane, red lights and alarm bells whenever the ball came anywhere near him, I really dunno what else to tell you.

Did he play ice hockey as well?

[Jairzinho]

44 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

Shearer was insane, red lights and alarm bells whenever the ball came anywhere near him, I really dunno what else to tell you.

 

You don´t need to tell me anything.

 

I watched him play. He was excellent. But the era, the formation, the style of play, etc, etc, dictates for me that other players, in another system, would be better.

 

Suarez and Henry, for example, would be capable of playing football on a completely different level to Shearer.

[aws]

We saw Suarez at his unstoppable best. Better than Shearer because he created as well as finished.  Maybe Shearer would be in contention in a 4-4-2 with the team set up to ping the ball  into him at every opportunity. 

[aRdja]

39 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

In all seriousness and only of the players I've seen at their best:

 

                        van Persie              Suarez

 

Bale             Kante                          Yaya                  Ronaldo

                  

 

Cole             Ferdinand                      Vidic                Ivanovic

                                        De Gea

 

 

van Persie to me was the opposing player I was most worried about for some reason. Also, Ronaldo left before I really started watching but he's obviously better than anyone else. 

Gerrard’s younger than Ferdinand you troll... and a much better midfielder at his best than Kante and Yaya.

[Captain Howdy]

It’s an ALL TIME best prem 11 question, I reckon if you asked 50 GENUINELY neutral people who were over 40 to list their teams I don’t reckon Suarez would get a single vote or if he did he would be light years behind Shearer.

[TheHowieLama]

An 11 of the best players who have played in the Prem does not include Shearer - much less RVP.

 

I picked my side based on that -- lets face it Gullit was a far better midfielder than anyone bar Gerrard that has played in the league - not that he was at his best during that time.

 

If it is based on career achievements in England then of course players who stuck around their whole career might get in. 

[3 Stacks]

45 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Gerrard’s younger than Ferdinand you troll... and a much better midfielder at his best than Kante and Yaya.

Gerrard was never at the level of Yaya and Kante from 2010 on, which is when I started watching regularly. Those two were extremely dominant players on two title winners. And Ferdinand was still a top CB until the year he left United, which was in 2014. Not even remotely a troll. 

[3 Stacks]

14 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

An 11 of the best players who have played in the Prem does not include Shearer - much less RVP.

 

It might if you only do a 2010 to present, which is what I'm doing as it's when I truly started watching football. Besides Suarez, RVP was the most complete striker in the league. 

[aRdja]

18 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

An 11 of the best players who have played in the Prem does not include Shearer - much less RVP.

 

I picked my side based on that -- lets face it Gullit was a far better midfielder than anyone bar Gerrard that has played in the league - not that he was at his best during that time.

 

If it is based on career achievements in England then of course players who stuck around their whole career might get in. 

Peak form in the PL for me.

[3 Stacks]

1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

Gerrard was never at the level of Yaya and Kante from 2010 on, which is when I started watching regularly. Those two were extremely dominant players on two title winners. And Ferdinand was still a top CB until the year he left United, which was in 2014. Not even remotely a troll. 

Why have I been negged for this? VD and Tony, if you believe that 2010-2014 Gerrard was better than Kante was for Leicester and Chelsea and Yaya for City during that time, you're out of your minds. 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

PL best eleven from 2010 with Ronaldo in it? He left United in 2009?

 

 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

4 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Why have I been negged for this? VD and Tony, if you believe that 2010-2014 Gerrard was better than Kante was for Leicester and Chelsea and Yaya for City during that time, you're out of your minds. 

How old are you?

[3 Stacks]

8 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

PL best eleven from 2010 with Ronaldo in it? He left United in 2009?

 

 

You didn't read my initial post. What a surprise. 

7 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

How old are you?

24 years young. 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

I’m astonished I bother reading anything to be honest. Enlighten me, you never saw Ronaldo play in the PL, so why is he in your team, i may be wrong and misunderstood?

 

My lad is 24.

[3 Stacks]

10 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

I’m astonished I bother reading anything to be honest. Enlighten me, you never saw Ronaldo play in the PL, so why is he in your team, i may be wrong and misunderstood?

 

My lad is 24.

Because while I never saw much of Ronaldo in the Premier League, I've seen plenty of him elsewhere to know he is far better than anyone else at the right midfield position. And his goal and trophy tally at United obviously speak for themselves. 

 

That's nice. I hope he is carving out his path as I am also trying to do. 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

1 minute ago, 3 Stacks said:

Because while I never saw much of Ronaldo in the Premier League, I've seen plenty of him elsewhere to know he is far better than anyone else at the right midfield position. And his goal and trophy tally at United obviously speaks for itself. 

 

That's nice. I hope he is carving out his path as I am trying to do. 

Fair enough. He’s doing ok as I hope you are.