Most underrated/overrated player in the Premiership?

[Pureblood]

15 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Past players

 

Overrated - Gazza

Underrated - Klinsmann

Klinsmann won the football writers Player of the Year for his season in English footy.

[Vector Sigma]

Under - Lucas Radebe

Over - Mesut Ozil

[TheHowieLama]

4 minutes ago, Vector Sigma said:

 

Over - Mesut Ozil

Shitness of Modern Football thread this.

[Jimmy Hills Chin]

5 minutes ago, Vector Sigma said:

Under - Lucas Radebe

Over - Mesut Ozil

I’ll never be over Mesut Ozil.

[Bjornebye]

Gazza wasn't over-rated. If he wasn't a piss-head and hadn't had all them injuries he would easily be the best English player of all time. Possibly a top 10 ever player. He was superb. 

 

I don't think anyone will ever kid themselves that he was that good in the premiership. 

[YorkshireRed]

Overrated: Harry Kane. I’ve been saying this since his breakout season at Spurs. I’m not ready to let that view go just yet.

 

Underrated: Jordan Henderson (Still).

[Harry Squatter]

Bruno Fernandes is a good player and will probably be a great buy for the Mancs but he's had a few good games and gets in the MOTD team of the season and all the Manc loving media are obsessed about him.

 

David Luiz, John Stones and Phil Jones were all overrated early on in their career but as they have got older many people have realised how shit or average they are. In David Luiz's case how many stupid risks he takes to put his team in danger.

 

It's easy to dismiss Vardy as a punt over the top speed merchant but he came from non league and slowly worked his way up the leagues but was not overawed or intimidated by playing for Leicester in the Premier league. Think his sheer determination and ability to go from lower leagues to the Premier league without looking out of place is often overlooked. 

 

 

[Jimmy Hills Chin]

1 hour ago, Doctor Troy said:

Bruno Fernandes is a good player and will probably be a great buy for the Mancs but he's had a few good games and gets in the MOTD team of the season and all the Manc loving media are obsessed about him.

 

David Luiz, John Stones and Phil Jones were all overrated early on in their career but as they have got older many people have realised how shit or average they are. In David Luiz's case how many stupid risks he takes to put his team in danger.

 

It's easy to dismiss Vardy as a punt over the top speed merchant but he came from non league and slowly worked his way up the leagues but was not overawed or intimidated by playing for Leicester in the Premier league. Think his sheer determination and ability to go from lower leagues to the Premier league without looking out of place is often overlooked. 

 

 

Fernandes is one of those players who the commentators are desperate to do you well. You know the type, plays a 10 yard ball sideways and it becomes ‘a perfectly weighted pass that penetrates into the heart of the opposition played by a master craftsman’. He’s a decent player but he’s not the second coming, despite what Tyler says.

[Mathewbet1]

Jack Wilshire - overrated

Underrated - Danny ings

 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, aRdja said:

Past players

 

Overrated - Gazza

Underrated - Klinsmann

Klinsmann wasn't underrated, he just played in a team of underachievers. He was basically advertising the Premier League when he was at Spurs. If anything, he underrated himself and should have won a lot more in the English game. Imagine him at Liverpool in this squad...

Or the following season with Fowler and/or Collymore...

[Ron B]

Surprised that nobody has mentioned Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. He’s rarely mentioned when people talk about the best Prem strikers, but he scored goals year in year out, for the better part of a decade. 
Took a while to get going at Leeds, but scored 26 in the second half of his first season and was (joint) winner of the Golden Boot in his second. 

After a year’s break in Spain he went to Chelsea and got 87 goals in four years, won the Golden Boot again (and was one goal short of getting it a third time). 
Decent goal record at Middlesbrough too, and even if he fell off a bit by the time he went to Charlton he was 34 by the time he went there so I’d give him a pass on that. 

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

9 minutes ago, Ron B said:

Surprised that nobody has mentioned Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink. He’s rarely mentioned when people talk about the best Prem strikers, but he scored goals year in year out, for the better part of a decade. 
Took a while to get going at Leeds, but scored 26 in the second half of his first season and was (joint) winner of the Golden Boot in his second. 

After a year’s break in Spain he went to Chelsea and got 87 goals in four years, won the Golden Boot again (and was one goal short of getting it a third time). 
Decent goal record at Middlesbrough too, and even if he fell off a bit by the time he went to Charlton he was 34 by the time he went there so I’d give him a pass on that. 

Always seemed to score against us didn’t he? At least I remember very well being at Elland Road when he scored the winner against us in a 0-1 defeat. Absolute cracker of a goal.

 

He always had that in him, and scored quite a few screamers, but didnt do a lot of running and could be completely invisible on many occasions the way I remember him. 
 

Excellent goal scorer but not quite up there among the best in my book.

[Bjornebye]

Yeah he was a boss striker. I always forget about him. 

[Paul]

Underrated - Big Games James

Overrated - De Gea

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Over -  Joe Hart. None stop fawning when he was just a lucky keeper who ran out of luck.

 

Under -  Ray Clemence. Not by us but by England in my opinion and many others, should have been undisputed number one instead of the camera save Tina shagger Shilton.

[Grinch]

13 hours ago, S.i.t.M aka The Boring One™ said:

Klinsmann wasn't underrated, he just played in a team of underachievers. He was basically advertising the Premier League when he was at Spurs. If anything, he underrated himself and should have won a lot more in the English game. Imagine him at Liverpool in this squad...

Or the following season with Fowler and/or Collymore...

 

A few relatively average players like Tim Flowers and Colin Hendry would have improved that side more than any forward.     We were already sensational in attack. 

 

A stronger manager who understood the importance of keeping fit would have helped too.   Evans was more likely to be out on the sauce with them, than clamp down on them throwing theur talent away. 

[aws]

Under -  Lucas. 

[aRdja]

Overrated: John Terry

Underrated: Sol Campbell

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

2 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Overrated: John Terry

Underrated: Sol Campbell

John Terry for all his faults was a great player, Sol Campbell was not underrated in my opinion. 

[Bjornebye]

2 hours ago, aRdja said:

Overrated: John Terry

Underrated: Sol Campbell

John Terry was and is a horrible cunt but he was a superb player. 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

10 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

John Terry was and is a horrible cunt but he was a superb player. 

Wasting your breath Stig. 

[VladimirIlyich]

6 hours ago, aRdja said:

Overrated: John Terry

Underrated: Sol Campbell

I find myself agreeing with ardja on this. Terry and Campbell were both top players and while Terry is a cunt and Campbell is totally hatstand,I do feel Sol hasn't had the plaudits he deserved. 

[Bjornebye]

12 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I find myself agreeing with ardja on this. Terry and Campbell were both top players and while Terry is a cunt and Campbell is totally hatstand,I do feel Sol hasn't had the plaudits he deserved. 

I think most football fans acknowledge that Campbell was brilliant 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

27 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I find myself agreeing with ardja on this. Terry and Campbell were both top players and while Terry is a cunt and Campbell is totally hatstand,I do feel Sol hasn't had the plaudits he deserved. 

Campbell was drooled over at times. The hatstand thing is right though.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

While we’re at it 
 

Over - Ledley King. Good player but became better and better every time he was out injured. Not alone in that.

 

Under - Pablo Zabaleta. Great pro in a team of mainly uppity twats.