Away goal rule being reviewed.

[an tha]

About time - it is a shite rule IMO and unfair.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45413648

[niallers]

The only change I'd make is not to let away goals count in extra time. It gives the away team the extra half hour to score an away goal. I think you have to have some way of winning without resorting to penalties straight away. At least it's being looked at

[joe_fishfish]

I'd be disappointed to see it go. It's a better decider than penalties.

[Jenson]

If it ain’t broke....

[Bjornebye]

I like penalty shoot outs when it isn't us.

 

Just swerve the away goal rule. I'm all in on that.

[Numero Veinticinco]

I think there should be a Royal Rumble style MMA/UFC fight-off. Like, Barcelona win but Ames’s I won’t be playing because Harry Kane kicked him in the urethra and he’s pissing out his asshole.

[General Dryness]

I think there should be a Royal Rumble style MMA/UFC fight-off. Like, Barcelona win but Ames’s I won’t be playing because Harry Kane kicked him in the urethra and he’s pissing out his asshole.

Yeah, glad that Ames's I won't be playing.

[Mook]

The main issue with the away goals rule is the commentators having to spend half of every European knock out game explaining it to people who have known how it works for fucking years.

[Barnesey]

I think it adds to the excitement; you can go from winning to losing with one goal. Loved the Arsenal CL game a few years back largely because of this. And Torres, of course.

[deiseach]

Love the away goals rule. It's the only time in knockout football when defeat turns into victory in a moment.

 

[an tha]

Love the away goals rule. It's the only time in knockout football when defeat turns into victory in a moment.

 

But that is the point for me - at that point at 4-4 on agg we shouldn't have been facing an exit.

 

Why should our 3 goals at home v their 1 at home be less valuable than their 3 away goals v our 1.

 

It is an old outdated concept put in place when football was a very different game.

[M_B]

Quite like the rule myself. Plus playing extra time gives the 2nd leg home side an advantage.

[Jairzinho]

The main issue with the away goals rule is the commentators having to spend half of every European knock out game explaining it to people who have known how it works for fucking years.

 

You do still get people that say "away goals count double" though. Yeah, the first leg was 0-0, but because you lost the away leg 7-4 you're definitely going through.

[deiseach]

It's true that if the away goals rule didn't exist you wouldn't invent it. But it's woven tightly into the fabric of European football now. You're always conscious of it and taking it out will leave huge gaps. I also think it will have the perverse outcome of making penalty shoot-outs, which I quite enjoy as well, less special because they'll be happening all the goddamn time. 

[J-V]

Love the away goals rule. It's the only time in knockout football when defeat turns into victory in a moment.

 

Milner’s a machine

[Bamo]

You do still get people that say "away goals count double" though. Yeah, the first leg was 0-0, but because you lost the away leg 7-4 you're definitely going through.

To be fair it's harsh on Evertonians expecting them to understand when they rarely play in Europe thanks to us

[an tha]

Quite like the rule myself. Plus playing extra time gives the 2nd leg home side an advantage.

Not so sure about that....if a game finishes 1-1 in 1st leg and 2-2 aet in 2nd leg (after being 1-1 in the 90) the decisive factor is the 2nd away goal which the away team in the 2nd leg had 120 mins to score versus the away team in the 1st leg only having 90 mins to score.

[deiseach]

Not so sure about that....if a game finishes 1-1 in 1st leg and 2-2 aet in 2nd leg (after being 1-1 in the 90) the decisive factor is the 2nd away goal which the away team in the 2nd leg had 120 mins to score versus the away team in the 1st leg only having 90 mins to score.

 

If you didn't have the rule then the home team would definitely have an advantage for those extra 30 minutes. Some would argue (I've had this discussion before) that the second leg should end after 90 minutes and go straight to penalties which makes sense, but it just reinforces my point above about diminishing the drama of the penalty shoot-out by making it more frequent.

[RobbieOR]

I like it. European competition wouldn't feel the same without it. 

[Aventus]

I'm happy for it to be looked at and to see if a better alternative is thought of. But binning off away goals in favour of just having normal goalscoring shouldn't happen.

 

Most people agree that they'd rather have the second leg at home, the disadvantage of that is that if you didn't score in the away leg then you might have a squeeky bum for a bit.

 

Now there would be no disadvantage whatsoever, teams would always want the home leg second no matter what.

[an tha]

If you didn't have the rule then the home team would definitely have an advantage for those extra 30 minutes. Some would argue (I've had this discussion before) that the second leg should end after 90 minutes and go straight to penalties which makes sense, but it just reinforces my point above about diminishing the drama of the penalty shoot-out by making it more frequent.

Is the balance of the advantage you mention of being at home in this scenario and being away but not having to win to win fair?

 

Home team has to actually win to go through or force pens and try and win away team can go through by not actually winning....

[deiseach]

Is the balance of the advantage you mention of being at home in this scenario and being away but not having to win to win fair?

 

Home team has to actually win to go through or force pens and try and win away team can go through by not actually winning....

 

If there is no away goals rule and both teams finish level after 180 minutes, whatever the balance of results over the two legs, then the home team in the second leg definitely has an advantage if it goes for an extra 30 minutes. I'm sure they'll be taking this into account when considering whether to ditch the away goals rule.

[johnsusername]

Scrap the rule. After 90 minutes if the tie is all square throw on another ball. At 5 minute intervals throw on an extra ball. First team to score wins.

 

If FIFA don't pick it up Sky will.

[deiseach]

Scrap the rule. After 90 minutes if the tie is all square throw on another ball. At 5 minute intervals throw on an extra ball. First team to score wins.

 

If FIFA don't pick it up Sky will.

 

[suzy]

I’m in the ‘like the away goals’ camp!