Man City - the new bitters?

[Lee909]

A Simpsons/Man City Story in pictures

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Razoray]

Cunts!

[Code]

Its gone a bit quiet about their case.

[Wezza]

Noticeable that the run in form has coincided with the court case. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

Haven't they been punished enough!!!!!

[Section_31]

That big fucking lug up front will be first out the door, mark my words - guy's a rat, I can always tell a rat. 

[Code]

I hope all their good players leave. 

[Megadrive Man]

2 hours ago, Code said:

Its gone a bit quiet about their case.

 

The case started on 16th Sept, which means next week is the ninth week out of ten weeks that were originally scheduled.

[Bobby Hundreds]

A lot of people probably want their slice before they go easy on them.

[No2]

3 hours ago, Code said:

Its gone a bit quiet about their case.

It's never been anything other than quiet. The lack of leaks is a serious achievement. Must be 30 different PL clubs with eyes on it over the course of 6 or 7 years. Then we have government involvement from both sides as well as security services from one side (no doubt involved).

[Megadrive Man]

[halewood pete]

[Barrington Womble]

52 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

I think people are going overboard on their form. I know they've lost 4 in all competitions, but in the 4 seasons since we won the league, city have won them all. They currently have 23 points from 11 games. In those 4 years in their first 11 games they've had 23 points once, less than 23 once and more than 23 twice. It seems almost a par start. And they've won the league every time. If we'd have started the season like arsenal, they'd be sitting 4 points clear at the top. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

Yeah you're mad if you think Abu Dhabi cheats are out of this. 

[No2]

1 hour ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

I think people are going overboard on their form. I know they've lost 4 in all competitions, but in the 4 seasons since we won the league, city have won them all. They currently have 23 points from 11 games. In those 4 years in their first 11 games they've had 23 points once, less than 23 once and more than 23 twice. It seems almost a par start. And they've won the league every time. If we'd have started the season like arsenal, they'd be sitting 4 points clear at the top. 

While true they have massive latter day Hendo and Fab vibes about them. When Silva and De Bruyne came on they actually got worse. Any other year they set up score 2 between them. They look an old and slow side. I don't remember them being like that in previous years. 

[Barrington Womble]

10 minutes ago, No2 said:

While true they have massive latter day Hendo and Fab vibes about them. When Silva and De Bruyne came on they actually got worse. Any other year they set up score 2 between them. They look an old and slow side. I don't remember them being like that in previous years. 

 

it looks clear they have been slimming their squad in preparation for what is ahead with the PL charges. There's quite a few out of contract this summer (including the 2 players you mention and the manager). and the charges themselves have to be a distraction, I don't see how it can't be. But this is a team that has done it time and again. i think it is crazy to write them off and as i mentioned, the results are not that freakish when compared to the last 4 years. 

 

my personal opinion is don't think about them. do our best with what we have and IF city slip up, it's us who are there to catch the league and not arsenal or someone else. but right now the title isn't even out of city's hands. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I don't think anyone's writing them off. Just having a laugh at their poor form.

[Razoray]

1 hour ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

I think people are going overboard on their form. I know they've lost 4 in all competitions, but in the 4 seasons since we won the league, city have won them all. They currently have 23 points from 11 games. In those 4 years in their first 11 games they've had 23 points once, less than 23 once and more than 23 twice. It seems almost a par start. And they've won the league every time. If we'd have started the season like arsenal, they'd be sitting 4 points clear at the top. 

I think their form since the first international break is the issue, not just the last 4 games.

Their results looked good on the surface but they were struggling to get over the line in a lot of games that, for the champions, seemed to be eminently winnable on paper (PL unless stated otherwise):

Brentford H - won 2-1

UCL - Inter H - drew 0-0

Arsenal H - drew 2-2

EFL Cup - Watford H - won 2-1

Newcastle A - drew 1-1

UCL Bratislava A - won 4-0

Fulham H - won 3-2

Wolves A - won 2-1

UCL Sparta Prague - won 5-0

Southampton H - won 1-0

EFL Spurs - Lost 2-1

Bournemouth A - lost 2-1

UCL Sporting A - lost 4-1

Brighton A - lost 2-1

 

Aside from the Bratislava and Prague games, they were barely getting over the line, against teams that were/are outside the top 8 in the league. Even Watford wasn't straightforward. 

Over the past couple if weeks, the number if injuries have increased and they have not been able to survive. It is a lot more than just the last 4 games. This was coming. It will take a major upturn in form to address the slide from this to previous versions

 

 

[Barrington Womble]

8 minutes ago, Razoray said:

I think their form since the first international break is the issue, not just the last 4 games.

Their results looked good on the surface but they were struggling to get over the line in a lot of games that, for the champions, seemed to be eminently winnable on paper (PL unless stated otherwise):

Brentford H - won 2-1

UCL - Inter H - drew 0-0

Arsenal H - drew 2-2

EFL Cup - Watford H - won 2-1

Newcastle A - drew 1-1

UCL Bratislava A - won 4-0

Fulham H - won 3-2

Wolves A - won 2-1

UCL Sparta Prague - won 5-0

Southampton H - won 1-0

EFL Spurs - Lost 2-1

Bournemouth A - lost 2-1

UCL Sporting A - lost 4-1

Brighton A - lost 2-1

 

Aside from the Bratislava and Prague games, they were barely getting over the line, against teams that were/are outside the top 8 in the league. Even Watford wasn't straightforward. 

Over the past couple if weeks, the number if injuries have increased and they have not been able to survive. It is a lot more than just the last 4 games. This was coming. It will take a major upturn in form to address the slide from this to previous versions

 

 

 

loads of seasons though they limp through big periods of the season if you look at form. their ability as a team isn't them battering people like the narrative is, it's finding a way to win. if people want to get carried away with it, that's up to them. for me it's just a question of they're in a bit of bad form, their squad might not be quite what it was, but they're not too far off what they normally produce. i am not saying they won't fuck it up - in fact as we saw the year we won the league, they almost seemed to chuck it in and lost 9 games. but you have to assume they have it in them to win the last 15-20 games, because they normally do whatever is needed in the 2nd half of the season. that's when they really excel and push on. 

[Spy Bee]

6 hours ago, Section_31 said:

That big fucking lug up front will be first out the door, mark my words - guy's a rat

He's not. He's an axolotl...

 

 

See

 

[Vincent Vega]

MARTYN ZIEGLER, THE TIMES

Revealed: The four rivals targeting Man City compensation

Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham and Manchester United have lodged legal notices reserving the right to seek a payout if the champions are found guilty of serious breaches
 

Four of Manchester City’s main rivals have lodged legal notices reserving the right to seek compensation if the club are found guilty of serious charges among the 115 alleged breaches of Premier League financial rules.

 

Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur have taken the step of formally registering possible compensation claims via arbitration before a potential statute of limitations deadline last week, sources have told The Times.
The clubs involved all declined to comment.

 

The charges against City are still being heard by an independent regulatory commission, with the outcome not expected until the new year. The commission can make an order for compensation to be paid but it is understood that, because of laws around time limits to register such claims, there was concern among the clubs that it would be too late to wait until the case had been resolved.

 

Chelsea are not believed to have lodged a legal notice relating to compensation. They have their own Premier League investigation to contend with after they self-reported alleged irregular payments during the Roman Abramovich era. That could also lead to compensation claims from rivals but there is no looming deadline for the case.

 

The compensation notices were served after the four clubs were advised by lawyers there was a potential six-year statute of limitations period dating from November 5, 2018, when the German website Der Spiegel first published the Football Leaks documents.

 

Although City’s alleged rule breaches date from 2009, the 1980 Limitation Act’s six-year period for legal claims for breaches of contract in the UK allows an exception where that breach has been concealed. That would allow the six-year period to begin when details of the alleged breaches were made public.

 

If the charges against City are proven, clubs could claim for loss of income for missing out on the league title, qualification for the Champions League or other European competitions over the course of several seasons, which could total hundreds of millions of pounds.

 

Clubs cannot sue each other through the courts under Premier League rules but they can do so through arbitration under Rule X. Five clubs applied for compensation when Everton were sanctioned for breaching Profitability and Sustainability Rules last season — Leeds United, Leicester City, Nottingham Forest, Burnley and Southampton — but those claims have since been withdrawn or are still unresolved. 
 

In the City case, lawyers are understood to have advised clubs that if they waited until the outcome of the hearing into the 115 alleged rule breaches then there was a risk any compensation claim could be deemed to be out of time.

 

City’s alleged rule breaches include not providing accurate financial information for nine separate seasons, not providing full details of Roberto Mancini’s pay over the four seasons he managed the club (from 2009 to 2013), and not providing full details of players’ remuneration — including the former midfielder Yaya Touré — over six seasons from 2010-11 to 2015-16.

 

City have also been charged with not co-operating with an investigation and failing to hand over documents, as required, over five seasons from 2018-19 to 2022-23.

 

The Premier League investigation into Chelsea did not become public until a story appeared in The Times in June 2023, so rival clubs should have until June 2029 to file any compensation notices.

 

Alleged irregular payments between 2012 and 2019 are under investigation, including those connected to the transfers of Willian, Samuel Eto’o and Eden Hazard. The investigation was opened after the Todd Boehly/Clearlake consortium bought the club in May 2022 and reported the payments to the league and Uefa.

[Anubis]

Ace. We may be able to afford to buy someone next summer.

[Nuzzer]

If the compensation is one of their players who do you take - Haaland? Rodri? Foden? Kyle Walker?

[Pete]

4 minutes ago, Nuzzer said:

If the compensation is one of their players who do you take - Haaland? Rodri? Foden? Kyle Walker?

Zubimendi. 

[Vincent Vega]

 

*Insert Larry David fainting gif.*