Man City - the new bitters?

[Jairzinho]

9 hours ago, Section_31 said:

A mate was saying he wouldn't like it if we were retrospectively awarded titles but I don't get that at all, we were literally pipped. If you finish a second behind Lance Armstrong then you've won the race as far as I'm concerned.

 

I think I agree but absolute priority is just stripping them of their titles.

 

I'd honestly rather they weren't docked a single penny or point but had all their trophies null and voided, than see them chucked in the Championship.

 

I want everything they've done in the last decade or so to become an absolute irrelevance.

[Section_31]

6 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

I think I agree but absolute priority is just stripping them of their titles.

 

I'd honestly rather they weren't docked a single penny or point but had all their trophies null and voided, than see them chucked in the Championship.

 

I want everything they've done in the last decade or so to become an absolute irrelevance.

 

Deffo, if even one charge is held up their "brand" is ruined forever.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

30 minutes ago, Em City said:

Think I've mentioned on here before, but I was talking to someone working on the legal team on the Premier League side and they said there is no chance of revoked titles.

 

I don't like it, but it probably makes sense from the PL's point of view, namely arse-covering. Retrospective action is a can of worms they won't want to touch. Like the Everton case, it's just easier to deduct points and apply transfer bans.

 

The big question for me is, if the PL win and go for points deduction, do they apply a cumulative amount in one go, and send them down one season? Or, apply it for consecutive seasons in line with the chronological nature of the breaches?

 

One season in the Championship is like doing six months for knocking off Fort Knox and keeping the loot.

[Bjornebye]

10 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

I want everything they've done in the last decade or so to become an absolute irrelevance.

It is anyway and even their own fans know it deep down 

[Jairzinho]

5 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

It is anyway and even their own fans know it deep down 

 

Not amongst the wider public it isn't. I want even the biggest knuckle dragging, window licking, Stoke fan to see them as cheats. They currently don't. 

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

Not amongst the wider public it isn't. I want even the biggest knuckle dragging, window licking, Stoke fan to see them as cheats. They currently don't. 

I think they do, they just use it as a dig. Same as Everton fans who on the one hand cry that they got punished and city haven’t but will be the first cunts to shout “asterix title” if we won the league after a city points deduction. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

I just want them - and Guardiola - to be synonymous with the term cheat, like a cloud that forever hangs over them. A ten part Netflix documentary about their cuntery is needed to convince the average twat of what we've known all along. 

[KMD7]

21 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

One season in the Championship is like doing six months for knocking off Fort Knox and keeping the loot.

 

Them doing a season there reminds me of this. 

[col06]

16 minutes ago, KMD7 said:

 

Them doing a season there reminds me of this. 

They all got brought down in the end though

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

I just want them - and Guardiola - to be synonymous with the term cheat, like a cloud that forever hangs over them. A ten part Netflix documentary about their cuntery is needed to convince the average twat of what we've known all along. 

I'm thinking a netflix dramatisation with danny devito playing guardiola. Sam Eagle as pelligrini. And while I don't watch eastenders to know any characters, they must have some slippery, crying, no mark to play Mansour . 

[Jairzinho]

10 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

I'm thinking a netflix dramatisation with danny devito playing guardiola. Sam Eagle as pelligrini. And while I don't watch eastenders to know any characters, they must have some slippery, crying, no mark to play Mansour . 

 

No Mark Fowler.

[an tha]

Don't do it yourselves - these fucking rats are not copping for any meaningful punishment.

 

Their legal team will wipe the floor with the PL.

 

They'll pick apart the rules for ambiguity and vagueness.

Leicester did it abu dahbi will too.

I feel it will end up with rather than Abu Dhabi saying "we didn't do A, B and C" they'll argue that the rules didn't clearly specify they couldn't do A, B and C....

[Colonel Bumcunt]

I think it's too late to untangle the game from the tentacles of oil money. 

 

Sure, you could deduct points and call City cheats, by extension that makes the City Football Group cheats, that makes the 81% ownership by UAE look bad, and then they decide to pull out of football completely.  Suddenly Man City, Arsenal, Real Madrid, AC Milan , Benfica all have massive sponsorship shortfalls and no other sponsor comes close to matching it. 

On top of that, governments from G7 nations get on the phone to the PL and make it clear in no uncertain terms that UAE are allies, good clean guys.  Why?  Well...they have come to rely on UAE in the background to do things like this....

 

 

 

 

[Trumo]

Do they have any unrelated sponsors? Can only think of Puma, and even there I wonder if Abu Dhabi have invested in shares in Puma. Maybe start putting out a lot of memes etc associating Puma with cheating to put a bit of pressure on them, when they'd rather be associated with winning teams, Pele and King Kenny.

[John102]

8 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

I'm thinking a netflix dramatisation with danny devito playing guardiola. Sam Eagle as pelligrini. And while I don't watch eastenders to know any characters, they must have some slippery, crying, no mark to play Mansour . 

Surely that's closer to home, with Dev from Coronation Street being perfect.

[Carra_is_legend]

12 hours ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

I just want them - and Guardiola - to be synonymous with the term cheat, like a cloud that forever hangs over them. A ten part Netflix documentary about their cuntery is needed to convince the average twat of what we've known all along. 

 

This. 

 

Baldy will be fearful of exactly that but at the same time hoping the big money lawyers can bail them out again. 

 

He may be a cunt but as Mourinho said they should not have been punished with a fine if they were not guilty. They were guilty and should have been banned but instead were given a fine which is easy for them to pay. It WAS a disgrace!

 

EDIT: A number of managers should have called them out, but really only Klopp did and he was labelled as a moaning git.

[No2]

9 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

I think it's too late to untangle the game from the tentacles of oil money. 

 

Sure, you could deduct points and call City cheats, by extension that makes the City Football Group cheats, that makes the 81% ownership by UAE look bad, and then they decide to pull out of football completely.  Suddenly Man City, Arsenal, Real Madrid, AC Milan , Benfica all have massive sponsorship shortfalls and no other sponsor comes close to matching it. 

On top of that, governments from G7 nations get on the phone to the PL and make it clear in no uncertain terms that UAE are allies, good clean guys.  Why?  Well...they have come to rely on UAE in the background to do things like this....

 

 

 

 

The UAE make a tonnes of money out if it, it's a 2 way street and ultimately they  benefit more. 

[andyj]

13 hours ago, Jairzinho said:

 

I think I agree but absolute priority is just stripping them of their titles.

 

I'd honestly rather they weren't docked a single penny or point but had all their trophies null and voided, than see them chucked in the Championship.

 

I want everything they've done in the last decade or so to become an absolute irrelevance.

Think we would all love to see that but now the season has started it would take a huge points deduction to relegate them and the FA know whatever punishment they dish out City will appeal and if they aren't happy with that outcome it will go before the court of arbitration. By that time any punishment that was dished out will be so diluted that charging them in the first place would have been a total waste of time .

[Jairzinho]

9 minutes ago, andyj said:

Think we would all love to see that but now the season has started it would take a huge points deduction to relegate them and the FA know whatever punishment they dish out City will appeal and if they aren't happy with that outcome it will go before the court of arbitration. By that time any punishment that was dished out will be so diluted that charging them in the first place would have been a total waste of time .

 

I'm under zero illusions, I fully expect absolutely fuck all to happen. It's what I want to happen.

[Smell The Glove]

10 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

I think it's too late to untangle the game from the tentacles of oil money. 

 

Sure, you could deduct points and call City cheats, by extension that makes the City Football Group cheats, that makes the 81% ownership by UAE look bad, and then they decide to pull out of football completely.  Suddenly Man City, Arsenal, Real Madrid, AC Milan , Benfica all have massive sponsorship shortfalls and no other sponsor comes close to matching it. 

On top of that, governments from G7 nations get on the phone to the PL and make it clear in no uncertain terms that UAE are allies, good clean guys.  Why?  Well...they have come to rely on UAE in the background to do things like this....

 

 

 

 

I'd be surprised if what happened to Abu Dhabi affected any team sponsored from Dubai. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

13 hours ago, Jairzinho said:

 

I think I agree but absolute priority is just stripping them of their titles.

 

I'd honestly rather they weren't docked a single penny or point but had all their trophies null and voided, than see them chucked in the Championship.

 

I want everything they've done in the last decade or so to become an absolute irrelevance.

 

I think removing their ill-gotten gains is a must. That must be the absolute minimum. That's not even a punishment, that's a correction of the record. That should be a by-product of being found guilty, then they should be punished after that. I'm obviously biased as fuck so I'd like to see the club close down and all the players, managers, owners, and fans, have all their assets seized and used to build a rocket to fire them into the sun. I'd also like Manchester United to be shut down as part of the settlement because they both have Manchester in their name. It's probably best I'm not on the committee, if I'm honest. I'd settle for them to be kicked out of the league, but not by way of points deduction but by telling them to get the fuck out. Then the other leagues can deny entry. 

[Jairzinho]

23 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

 

I think removing their ill-gotten gains is a must. That must be the absolute minimum. That's not even a punishment, that's a correction of the record. That should be a by-product of being found guilty, then they should be punished after that. I'm obviously biased as fuck so I'd like to see the club close down and all the players, managers, owners, and fans, have all their assets seized and used to build a rocket to fire them into the sun. I'd also like Manchester United to be shut down as part of the settlement because they both have Manchester in their name. It's probably best I'm not on the committee, if I'm honest. I'd settle for them to be kicked out of the league, but not by way of points deduction but by telling them to get the fuck out. Then the other leagues can deny entry. 

 

I think it sends the most powerful message as well. Of course very good players would still go there in the future if they have loads of money, but think of someone like De Bruyne. One of the world's best players over the last six to eight years, he stayed there and won loads. Imagine the next generation of footballer looking at City, or similar financial doping cunts and thinking "fuck that, I could have all my medals basically scrubbed out in a few years if the club cheats again". 

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

14 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

I think it sends the most powerful message as well. Of course very good players would still go there in the future if they have loads of money, but think of someone like De Bruyne. One of the world's best players over the last six to eight years, he stayed there and won loads. Imagine the next generation of footballer looking at City, or similar financial doping cunts and thinking "fuck that, I could have all my medals basically scrubbed out in a few years if the club cheats again". 

 

 

Yeah, agree. There will be a stigma around them forever. All the great players and the manager will just be associated with cheating. All the things they ‘won’, every moment played on TV. It’ll all be gone because it’s cheating. They sold their soul to the devil, which seems like great fun for a while until he comes to collect the your soul. Newcastle fans are currently intolerable fuckers too. They’re desperate for their quick fix from their Faustian bargain to pay off. There’s a mentality that’s seen in the wider society where it’s okay to destroy everything for a quick fix and they’re willing to do it at the detriment of others and of the future. It’s pretty galling to watch, honestly. 

[VladimirIlyich]

15 hours ago, Lee909 said:

After today's news reports the government had MI6 involved to make sure the Newcastle takeover went through it shows you what the regulator and government will be doing behind the scenes to ensure City get something they are happy with. 

 

Suspended points deduction, transfer ban(starting next summer) and a massive fine 

That's like taking a dummy off a baby and giving them a lollipop instead.

[VladimirIlyich]

11 hours ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

I think it's too late to untangle the game from the tentacles of oil money. 

 

Sure, you could deduct points and call City cheats, by extension that makes the City Football Group cheats, that makes the 81% ownership by UAE look bad, and then they decide to pull out of football completely.  Suddenly Man City, Arsenal, Real Madrid, AC Milan , Benfica all have massive sponsorship shortfalls and no other sponsor comes close to matching it. 

On top of that, governments from G7 nations get on the phone to the PL and make it clear in no uncertain terms that UAE are allies, good clean guys.  Why?  Well...they have come to rely on UAE in the background to do things like this....

 

 

 

 

10 points awarded for that!