Man City - the new bitters?

[Section_31]

I'm happy for them to win every match now. How rival fans laughed when we were pipped. Well this is what you wanted, enjoy.

[YorkshireRed]

This was discussed in the pub last night, not for the first time. I’ve shared the opinions I hear before but, in summary;

 

1. A few were saying they hope City are completely cleared. There is a belief that football is run by a “red cartel” that includes; Liverpool, Arsenal and United. 
 

Apparently if it was ok for United to “buy the league” under Ferguson, the same should go for City. 
 

2. The fact that City’s cheating has negatively impacted Liverpool is seen as hilarious. Everyone was in agreement (not me obviously) that they’d rather City win the league than Liverpool, all day long and twice on Sundays. 
 

3. Klopp is seen as a “moaning cunt” and the whole of English football is glad to see the back of him. He’s also a myth and a failure. 
 

I would get annoyed, but most of these are Leeds fans so their opinions on anything football related are meaningless. 
 

My wider concern is that, although apathy is probably the largest feeling among opposition football supporters, many of the views above are also shared. 

[Paulie Dangerously]

[johnsusername]

5 hours ago, Section_31 said:

I'm happy for them to win every match now. How rival fans laughed when we were pipped. Well this is what you wanted, enjoy.

 

Same. 

[an tha]

4 hours ago, YorkshireRed said:

This was discussed in the pub last night, not for the first time. I’ve shared the opinions I hear before but, in summary;

 

1. A few were saying they hope City are completely cleared. There is a belief that football is run by a “red cartel” that includes; Liverpool, Arsenal and United. 
 

Apparently if it was ok for United to “buy the league” under Ferguson, the same should go for City. 
 

2. The fact that City’s cheating has negatively impacted Liverpool is seen as hilarious. Everyone was in agreement (not me obviously) that they’d rather City win the league than Liverpool, all day long and twice on Sundays. 
 

3. Klopp is seen as a “moaning cunt” and the whole of English football is glad to see the back of him. He’s also a myth and a failure. 
 

I would get annoyed, but most of these are Leeds fans so their opinions on anything football related are meaningless. 
 

My wider concern is that, although apathy is probably the largest feeling among opposition football supporters, many of the views above are also shared. 

Nobody cares about abu dhabi - yet....

 

Give it another 10 years of this domination and it will change

 

But for now they are nobodies rivals - even the club they share a city (sort of) with don't see them as their main rivals.

 

So the vitriol aimed at us and the mancs is never going to be as easily found when it comes to them. I've said it before and i stand by it, people all over the land live with liverpool and man utd fans day in, day out - in the pubs, at work etc etc - you for example there in with those Leeds fans, i bet there isn't an abu dhabi fan in there...

 

 

[YorkshireRed]

17 minutes ago, an tha said:

Nobody cares about abu dhabi - yet....

 

Give it another 10 years of this domination and it will change

 

But for now they are nobodies rivals - even the club they share a city (sort of) with don't see them as their main rivals.

 

So the vitriol aimed at us and the mancs is never going to be as easily found when it comes to them. I've said it before and i stand by it, people all over the land live with liverpool and man utd fans day in, day out - in the pubs, at work etc etc - you for example there in with those Leeds fans, i bet there isn't an abu dhabi fan in there...

 

 

Definitely not. It’s mainly Leeds where I live, a good few United (I call them that to annoy Leeds fans) and a similar number following Liverpool. 
 

There’s a smattering of Huddersfield, Sheffield Wednesday, and Barnsley fans. I also know one staunch Newcastle fan, a WBA fan, and another who claims he’s Everton, which could be true as he knows fuck all about football. 
 

Zero City fans, at least among the over eighteens anyway. 

[an tha]

8 minutes ago, YorkshireRed said:

Definitely not. It’s mainly Leeds where I live, a good few United (I call them that to annoy Leeds fans) and a similar number following Liverpool. 
 

There’s a smattering of Huddersfield, Sheffield Wednesday, and Barnsley fans. I also know one staunch Newcastle fan, a WBA fan, and another who claims he’s Everton, which could be true as he knows fuck all about football. 
 

Zero City fans, at least among the over eighteens anyway. 

Sounds about right - the random WBA fan aside. Brummie i assume?

[YorkshireRed]

Just now, an tha said:

Sounds about right - the random WBA fan aside. Brummie i assume?

Nope - born and bred in Wakefield. Just wanted to be different I guess. Goes to the games and everything, so fair play. 

[an tha]

5 minutes ago, YorkshireRed said:

Nope - born and bred in Wakefield. Just wanted to be different I guess. Goes to the games and everything, so fair play. 

Fucking hell! 

 

Easy way to test if the everton fan is indeed an everton fan - ask him a load of questions about us....If he gets most of them right then it is safe to say he is a bitter.

[manwiththestick]

42 minutes ago, YorkshireRed said:

Nope - born and bred in Wakefield. Just wanted to be different I guess. Goes to the games and everything, so fair play. 

I have a mate from school, growing up in the 80's and 90's he started to support Wolves for no other reason than he liked the gold/black Goodyear kit.

[Megadrive Man]

I won't hold my breath.

Man City could be deducted points 'across multiple seasons' as 115 charges case begins - Mirror Online

[Megadrive Man]

23 hours ago, YorkshireRed said:

This was discussed in the pub last night, not for the first time. I’ve shared the opinions I hear before but, in summary;

 

1. A few were saying they hope City are completely cleared. There is a belief that football is run by a “red cartel” that includes; Liverpool, Arsenal and United. 
 

Apparently if it was ok for United to “buy the league” under Ferguson, the same should go for City. 
 

2. The fact that City’s cheating has negatively impacted Liverpool is seen as hilarious. Everyone was in agreement (not me obviously) that they’d rather City win the league than Liverpool, all day long and twice on Sundays. 
 

3. Klopp is seen as a “moaning cunt” and the whole of English football is glad to see the back of him. He’s also a myth and a failure. 
 

I would get annoyed, but most of these are Leeds fans so their opinions on anything football related are meaningless. 
 

My wider concern is that, although apathy is probably the largest feeling among opposition football supporters, many of the views above are also shared. 

 

I've been away on a stag weekend with a mixture of fans of other teams.

 

The consensus was that if they are guilty they should get a deduction of ten points!

 

Ten fucking points! 

 

They'll be 12 to 15 points clear at Christmas.

 

I think that fans of most teams outside of 'the red cartel' don't really know much about it.

 

 

[Section_31]

A mate was saying he wouldn't like it if we were retrospectively awarded titles but I don't get that at all, we were literally pipped. If you finish a second behind Lance Armstrong then you've won the race as far as I'm concerned.

[Megadrive Man]

28 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

A mate was saying he wouldn't like it if we were retrospectively awarded titles but I don't get that at all, we were literally pipped. If you finish a second behind Lance Armstrong then you've won the race as far as I'm concerned.

 

We were pipped twice and clearly would have won the league those seasons if it weren't for the cheats, however if you give it to second place you get the likes of United winning the league even though they were twenty points behind!

[Bobby Hundreds]

55 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

I've been away on a stag weekend with a mixture of fans of other teams.

 

The consensus was that if they are guilty they should get a deduction of ten points!

 

Ten fucking points! 

 

They'll be 12 to 15 points clear at Christmas.

 

I think that fans of most teams outside of 'the red cartel' don't really know much about it.

 

 

10 points for over a decade of cheating! Fucking hell.

[Carra_is_legend]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

A mate was saying he wouldn't like it if we were retrospectively awarded titles but I don't get that at all, we were literally pipped. If you finish a second behind Lance Armstrong then you've won the race as far as I'm concerned.

 

I never understood this kind of an argument - I have heard people say getting titles from the past is not the same as winning it now, there will be an asterisk against it blah blah blah.....

 

Of course its not the fucking same but if it was not for the cheats we would have WON TWO MORE FUCKING TITLES. So what if they are from the past? If a team that finished first cheated, then the prize should go to the team that finished behind them. So fucking what if the opposition fans make fun of that? They made fun of our teams & manager who gave every ounce of sweat & blood, countless number of hours of training, tactical discussions & plans to only finish behind the biggest cheat in world football twice by a point, achieving 97 and 92 points. 

[DJLJ]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

A mate was saying he wouldn't like it if we were retrospectively awarded titles but I don't get that at all, we were literally pipped. If you finish a second behind Lance Armstrong then you've won the race as far as I'm concerned.

There is no way that the person in second weren't doped also, just that they weren't caught, so not too sure how good that analogy works there....

[Ronnie Whelan]

1 hour ago, Carra_is_legend said:

 

I never understood this kind of an argument - I have heard people say getting titles from the past is not the same as winning it now, there will be an asterisk against it blah blah blah.....

 

Of course its not the fucking same but if it was not for the cheats we would have WON TWO MORE FUCKING TITLES. So what if they are from the past? If a team that finished first cheated, then the prize should go to the team that finished behind them. So fucking what if the opposition fans make fun of that? They made fun of our teams & manager who gave every ounce of sweat & blood, countless number of hours of training, tactical discussions & plans to only finish behind the biggest cheat in world football twice by a point, achieving 97 and 92 points. 

Three titles - 2014 as well.

 

 

[VladimirIlyich]

20 hours ago, manwiththestick said:

I have a mate from school, growing up in the 80's and 90's he started to support Wolves for no other reason than he liked the gold/black Goodyear kit.

It was a beauty of a kit so I can partly understand.

[Barrington Womble]

3 hours ago, Section_31 said:

A mate was saying he wouldn't like it if we were retrospectively awarded titles but I don't get that at all, we were literally pipped. If you finish a second behind Lance Armstrong then you've won the race as far as I'm concerned.

 

To be honest, I'm just not arsed about it. I'm sure the players are. For me as a fan, winning the league is about 2 things, the journey and then the pinnacle when you take that journey over the line and win it. We got the journey. We didn't get the best bit and we can't get that back. I'll always remember how we won the league cup last season. It won't matter what happens with the cheats, it won't make me forget when kompany jammed it from 35 yards or the disappointment on my daughter's face when rumour went around anfield they were behind again against villa, then we discovered they weren't. We can't get those moments back. They should lose their titles, but I'm not arsed about picking 3 up on the other side of it. 

[Section_31]

[John102]

My only question regarding retrospective titles, is whether we should have the one bus parade, for maximum impact, or do them over consecutive weekends.

[andyj]

8 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

10 points for over a decade of cheating! Fucking hell.

By the time there lawyers have finished they will be given 20 points and a public apology from the FA

[Em City]

Think I've mentioned on here before, but I was talking to someone working on the legal team on the Premier League side and they said there is no chance of revoked titles.

[Lee909]

After today's news reports the government had MI6 involved to make sure the Newcastle takeover went through it shows you what the regulator and government will be doing behind the scenes to ensure City get something they are happy with. 

 

Suspended points deduction, transfer ban(starting next summer) and a massive fine