Man City - the new bitters?

[Scott_M]

18 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Think that would be up to the PL. so no chance.

The PL is also conducting an investigation into them. I think they are letting UEFA do the heavy lifting before commenting / taking action.

 

I’d assume any PL punishment would follow the outcome of the UEFA / CAS one. 
 

No idea if they’d strip them of titles or anything. As Stig said, Rangers weren’t but then again, Juventus were, so you never know. 
 

Personally, I’m not sure how I’d feel if we got 3 titles in July. Making it 21-20 would be hilarious but nothing will ever take away the disappointment of the slip or the eye roll & exasperated sigh of Kompany v Leicester.

 

If the ban is upheld by CAS, Citeh made a £10m profit last season, with £60m+  coming from various CL revenues. Factor in the effect COVID19 effect and they should be in a very precarious predicament. 

 

They are obviously still a great, but aging, side. Only playing once a week would, you’d have thought, help their league campaign but whose to say more players other than De Bruyne might want out? Although given the current situation, who’s be able to afford them?

[Anubis]

I’d force Henry to hand over his bank details at gunpoint for De Bruyne.

[The Guest]

De Bruyne can talk as much as he wants about leaving.  They could get the ban increased to 5 years and he’s still not going anywhere.  Money is no object to these cunts.  He’s contracted there so he will either play or he won’t but he won’t be moving anywhere until his contract runs out.

[Ronnie Whelan]

3 hours ago, Scott_M said:

The PL is also conducting an investigation into them. I think they are letting UEFA do the heavy lifting before commenting / taking action.

 

I’d assume any PL punishment would follow the outcome of the UEFA / CAS one. 
 

No idea if they’d strip them of titles or anything. As Stig said, Rangers weren’t but then again, Juventus were, so you never know. 
 

Personally, I’m not sure how I’d feel if we got 3 titles in July. Making it 21-20 would be hilarious but nothing will ever take away the disappointment of the slip or the eye roll & exasperated sigh of Kompany v Leicester.

 

If the ban is upheld by CAS, Citeh made a £10m profit last season, with £60m+  coming from various CL revenues. Factor in the effect COVID19 effect and they should be in a very precarious predicament. 

 

They are obviously still a great, but aging, side. Only playing once a week would, you’d have thought, help their league campaign but whose to say more players other than De Bruyne might want out? Although given the current situation, who’s be able to afford them?

Think it would be 21-21. Didn't the Mancs come second to them under Mourinho?

 

[No2]

4 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Cant see them being stripped of anything. r*ngers weren't. 

The 2 clubs that would benefit most are the 2 biggest, the ones that wield the power in the premier league.

 

Say what you want about Ferguson but no cunt holds a grudge like him. The Tevez poster City thought was hilarious would still keep that cunt awake at night. If City were found to have cheated then he will personally make sure that the 2012 and 2014 title's are both stripped from them. The other 2 could be harder to take but I wouldnt be the slightest bit surprised if they are still cooking the books.

 

Read the emails, they barely try to hide the cheating.

 

https://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/football-leaks-in-diesen-e-mails-plant-manchester-city-den-regelbruch-a-1255943.html#fotostrecke-a293d1c1-0001-0002-0000-000000167278

 

[Lee909]

It won't happen but having seen the desperation for this season voided I think we could power Anfield for the next century with the fume from the bitters alone 

[Barrington Womble]

On 10/06/2020 at 21:41, The Guest said:

De Bruyne can talk as much as he wants about leaving.  They could get the ban increased to 5 years and he’s still not going anywhere.  Money is no object to these cunts.  He’s contracted there so he will either play or he won’t but he won’t be moving anywhere until his contract runs out.

Apparently it is not that clear cut. There was some talk when the ban was 1st given that because city would not be missing out on the CL for sporting reasons and because city broke rules, the players would be able to argue city have failed in their obligation to provide the players with a platform to play. The major agents have already told city they're prepared to test this in court if they don't grant their players transfers. 

[Anubis]

 

“Tell me, Mr De Bruyne, where exactly did you think all of this money for you and your fellow players was coming from, hmm?”

 

”Er...Er...Er...”

 

”Quite, Mr De Bruyne. Quite.”

[The Guest]

9 hours ago, Barry Wom said:

Apparently it is not that clear cut. There was some talk when the ban was 1st given that because city would not be missing out on the CL for sporting reasons and because city broke rules, the players would be able to argue city have failed in their obligation to provide the players with a platform to play. The major agents have already told city they're prepared to test this in court if they don't grant their players transfers. 

Can you imagine De Bruyne or an agent trying to to take infinite money City to court?  How long would this take etc?  Probably longer than the two windows they will end up getting as punishment.  It wouldn’t happen and he isn’t going anywhere.  I’d put my house on it.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Nothing city wins has any value to it. If the butcher of Yemen does the same to Newcastle. They will equally become a hollow husk of a club.

[Bjornebye]

24 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

Nothing city wins has any value to it. If the butcher of Yemen does the same to Newcastle. They will equally become a hollow husk of a club.

Yep thats why I always say if its not us I'd rather see City win it because it means absolutely nothing. 

 

I still can't believe Leicester won it. I often forget about it. 

[Barrington Womble]

2 hours ago, The Guest said:

Can you imagine De Bruyne or an agent trying to to take infinite money City to court?  How long would this take etc?  Probably longer than the two windows they will end up getting as punishment.  It wouldn’t happen and he isn’t going anywhere.  I’d put my house on it.

everything is a negotiation. it doesn't have to get to court, because city don't want to be seen as a club who are happy to be in court with their own players, it just needs the threat of court. in addition to this, every club needs agents. city don't want to piss off all the major agents, they need to work with them down the line. if De Bruyne wants to go, he'll go. 

[JohnnyH]

Sadly if the City owners or Newcastle owners-to-be took over Liverpool you'd have the vast majority of Liverpool fans justifying them too.  It's what football fans do.

[Vincent Vega]

3 minutes ago, JohnnyH said:

Sadly if the City owners or Newcastle owners-to-be took over Liverpool you'd have the vast majority of Liverpool fans justifying them too.  It's what football fans do.

I think you’d see far far more resistance to such a takeover from Liverpool fans than any other set of fans in the country. You might get a few whoppers on Twitter who’ve never been to a match in their lives defending such a regime, but I think the majority would be dead set against it.

[JohnnyH]

7 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

I think you’d see far far more resistance to such a takeover from Liverpool fans than any other set of fans in the country. You might get a few whoppers on Twitter who’ve never been to a match in their lives defending such a regime, but I think the majority would be dead set against it.

It's nuanced I supposed.  Right now I think you'd see plenty against it as we are about as successful as you can be. But if we were still around 7th in the league then I think you'd see the majority for it.  I can remember when both Moores was selling and when we wanted H&G out that the blood money was brought up plenty and virtually everyone wanted it. 

 

I think whats more likely is the majority wouldn't give a shit.  A minority would be vocal against it and then the usual lot would back anything with LFC attached to it

 

[Barrington Womble]

55 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

I think you’d see far far more resistance to such a takeover from Liverpool fans than any other set of fans in the country. You might get a few whoppers on Twitter who’ve never been to a match in their lives defending such a regime, but I think the majority would be dead set against it.

Nobody seemed arsed when we were getting bought by DIC or China. 

[Bjornebye]

A few years ago I was all for us being bought by the richest cunt in the world and blowing everyone out the water. Instead we got the greatest Manager/man/human on the planet and are blowing everyone out the water. 

 

 

 

[dockers_strike]

I dont care, I wouldnt want some mega rich cunt or nation owning the club and using it as a vanity project. It doesnt sit easy with me some people shouting for an Abramovich or Mansour like owner who pulls out a wedge when they feel like it to buy the next big player then in the next breath, bang on about the club and Shankly's socialism. And before anyone starts, that's not a political dig, it's a dicotomy I cannot get me head round.

 

Sure, people can point to FSG and or Henry as being mega rich but, in my humble opinion, they've built up the club to be pretty much self sufficient. If the club makes a shit load of money off it's own bat, Im ok with that.

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

I dont care, I wouldnt want some mega rich cunt or nation owning the club and using it as a vanity project. It doesnt sit easy with me some people shouting for an Abramovich or Mansour like owner who pulls out a wedge when they feel like it to buy the next big player then in the next breath, bang on about the club and Shankly's socialism. And before anyone starts, that's not a political dig, it's a dicotomy I cannot get me head round.

 

Sure, people can point to FSG and or Henry as being mega rich but, in my humble opinion, they've built up the club to be pretty much self sufficient. If the club makes a shit load of money off it's own bat, Im ok with that.

I wasn't being serious. 

[The Guest]

2 hours ago, Barry Wom said:

everything is a negotiation. it doesn't have to get to court, because city don't want to be seen as a club who are happy to be in court with their own players, it just needs the threat of court. in addition to this, every club needs agents. city don't want to piss off all the major agents, they need to work with them down the line. if De Bruyne wants to go, he'll go. 

They’re threatening UEFA and CAS with lawyers and various quotes have come out about them having lawyers outspend and drag out cases for years.  They haven’t let one player they rate leave in over 10 years who hasn’t run his contract down.  Sane has been kicking up a stink for a while and they want silly money for him now knowing Bayern or anybody else won’t pay it because they don’t want to strengthen competition here or abroad.  They will pay agents far more money than anyone else because they have got infinite money.  The agents will want to be keeping them happy not the other way around which is why you never hear any of their players agents in the press.

 

If De Bruyne wants to leave he will get told to sit down and shut up or they will bench him for the remainder of his contract and ruin his career because money doesn’t matter to them.

[Funkasy]

11 minutes ago, The Guest said:

They’re threatening UEFA and CAS with lawyers and various quotes have come out about them having lawyers outspend and drag out cases for years.  They haven’t let one player they rate leave in over 10 years who hasn’t run his contract down.  Sane has been kicking up a stink for a while and they want silly money for him now knowing Bayern or anybody else won’t pay it because they don’t want to strengthen competition here or abroad.  They will pay agents far more money than anyone else because they have got infinite money.  The agents will want to be keeping them happy not the other way around which is why you never hear any of their players agents in the press.

 

If De Bruyne wants to leave he will get told to sit down and shut up or they will bench him for the remainder of his contract and ruin his career because money doesn’t matter to them.

Liverpool spent £43.8m on agents' fees between February 2018 and the end of January 2019 – around £17m more than any other Premier League club.

[Lee909]

8 minutes ago, Funkasy said:

Liverpool spent £43.8m on agents' fees between February 2018 and the end of January 2019 – around £17m more than any other Premier League club.

Your forgetting what doesn't go on City books. A bit like their finance department

[Funkasy]

Im sure they cook it maximum, but our club is one of the biggest to fill the pockets of the leachers in the game. 

[Barrington Womble]

1 hour ago, The Guest said:

They’re threatening UEFA and CAS with lawyers and various quotes have come out about them having lawyers outspend and drag out cases for years.  They haven’t let one player they rate leave in over 10 years who hasn’t run his contract down.  Sane has been kicking up a stink for a while and they want silly money for him now knowing Bayern or anybody else won’t pay it because they don’t want to strengthen competition here or abroad.  They will pay agents far more money than anyone else because they have got infinite money.  The agents will want to be keeping them happy not the other way around which is why you never hear any of their players agents in the press.

 

If De Bruyne wants to leave he will get told to sit down and shut up or they will bench him for the remainder of his contract and ruin his career because money doesn’t matter to them.

And it all comes crashing down without the cooperation of everyone. To begin with players won't want to go there. Not the very best players anyway.

 

Of course they've not let anyone go, but sane wanted to leave last summer and got himself injured for a season. The rest have wanted to stay and why not? They pay well and they win every week playing attacking football. But sane wants to leave because it doesn't suit him being there, he wants to go back to germany. It's completely different to what will happen should they be confirmed guilty by cas and stop all those players playing in the CL.

 

The ultimate thing here is they'll agree to let players go because the same agents will get them new players in. Some players will be happy to stay. Others (I would guess sterling as an example) will use it as a chance to force a new and better deal. And there'll be others who just want to go. City might want to use football as part of their kingdom, but ultimately like any side that wants to win, they need players who want to be there. You say they might threaten to "ruin" de bruynes career by benching him. As a non-british player who's already won the PL, he's likely to see just being at city even if he's playing as ruining his career. He'll be 29 by the time he kicks a ball in Europe again, he won't get many more chances to win the CL, it's now or never for a move. 

[dockers_strike]

3 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

I wasn't being serious. 

Wasnt directing anything at ya mate. Apologies if you thought I was.