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2 hours ago, Alex_K said:



You can just hear aidy ward's brain ticking over staging that interview, cant you? 'We cant have you posing with just a Real shirt while you're giving Zidane and them large, Raheem. We'll have to have you with a Real shirt on one shoulder and that blue rag over the other. Talk up what a great club they are but dont forget to say you're also playing for a great club at the moment.'


I wonder if city fans are livid yet or thinking he's doing to us what he did to QPR and Liverpool?

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3 hours ago, Alex_K said:



Fair play to Raheem Sterling.


He complains about people disrespecting City and then goes and does something that disrespects them so hard everyone else's attempts to disrespect them look like child's play.

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8 hours ago, kop77 said:

hello hello

Sterling - "When you see the white shirt you know exactly what the club stands for - it's massive. But, at the same time, I have a contract with City now and I have to respect this. But it's a fantastic club"



Never was a graphic so appropriate. Soriano, Guardiola, Sterling; a whole cavern of rats carrying their ill gotten oil money across the ocean with them. He's just a deeply, deeply unpleasant piece of work, isn't he? And -- on the dawn of a Champions League tie -- it again harks back to just what a small provincial football club Manchester City are.


You once said: “Everyone's dream growing up is seeing themselves in an away kit somewhere in a sunny country”. Would you like to play one day for Real Madrid?

(Laughs) How do I answer that one? Is the camera live or is it just taking pictures? No one knows what the future will hold. I am a player and I am always open to challenges but right now my challenge is at Manchester City. In the future, hopefully, who knows..



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38 minutes ago, Cultured Left Peg said:

What will happen to the vast sums they will recoup from any player sales?

These players were bought with fiddled money. Will this money offset any future FFP accounts?


They can be fined for breaking FFP rules but unless there is evidence that money laundering was going on that's it. Beyond that it's a criminal investigation and no-one is seriously saying that's on the agenda yet.

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3 hours ago, Anubis said:

Another rat off?



No of course not, It's just another case of The Cartel™ going out of their way to kick the noble underdogs Man City while they're down, by spreading transfer rumours to unsettle the players

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3 hours ago, Cultured Left Peg said:

What will happen to the vast sums they will recoup from any player sales?

These players were bought with fiddled money. Will this money offset any future FFP accounts?


Unfortunately FFP isnt like a Proceeds Of Crime Act. If they sell players, the fees can be used to buy replacements, settle fines, returned to Abu Dhabi etc.

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On 14/02/2020 at 14:04, liverpoolsno9 said:

UEFA really need to make an example of these cunts. If they don’t, they may as well just scrap FFP




It is hard to make sense of the strange dance Uefa and Manchester City are conducting over financial fair play. Two impenetrable organisations are locked in battle and the result will determine whether European football’s ruling body can exercise any control over the spending of the clubs that operate under its auspices.

This week the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) published details of City’s appeal against the decision of Uefa’s investigatory chamber to refer the club to the adjudicatory chamber over breaches of financial rules. CAS rejected City’s entreaties in November on the blindingly obvious grounds that there was no verdict or punishment to question. The adjudicatory chamber is yet to hand down its judgement. The documents provide a record of the arguments put before the Lausanne-based court four months ago.


Rewinding to the nub of the case, Uefa’s investigation began after the German magazine Der Spiegel published a cache of City’s internal emails three years ago. The hacked communications suggested that the club had misled the authorities over sponsorship that was supposed to have come from Etihad, the state airline of Abu Dhabi, but is alleged to have been provided by Sheikh Mansour, the owner and ruler of the Emirate.


City deny any wrongdoing but based their arguments to CAS on Uefa’s procedural mistakes in preparing the case. They also demanded damages for what they saw as “leaks” to the media by Uefa, which indicated that the club would be banned from the Champions League for at least a season.


This is where it gets interesting. Uefa were bullish about their position back in May when the investigatory chamber filed their charges but time has dragged on without an adjudicatory chamber ruling being declared. There has been a growing suspicion – even among Uefa insiders – that some sort of backroom deal was being arranged whereby City would escape a ban from European competition. The publication of CAS’s documents implies that this is not on the agenda. CAS makes its decisions public unless both parties agree to keep the details confidential. The paperwork of the Paris Saint-Germain case last year – where Uefa seemed to lose its nerve – was never released. Allowing the bitter exchanges with City into the open hints that a showdown is inevitable.


City’s complaints about the leaks raised eyebrows, too. Leaks, unattributed briefings – call them what you will – are common in football. All parties practise these dark arts and use them to set the agenda or heap pressure on their enemies. It is hard to take anyone who is sanctimonious about the use of leaks too seriously. In November, there were reports that a deal had been agreed and City would be hit with a fine rather than an expulsion from the Champions League. It is unlikely – given the mood in Uefa – that this came from Nyon.


Everybody likes to get their version of the tale out, ideally without leaving any fingerprints. Most football journalist could reel off countless occasions when the story for general consumption varied greatly with what was said in private when the Dictaphones were switched off.

It is still hard to predict what sentence the adjudicatory chamber will hand down. The decision has been made and if the worst-case scenario happens for City, there will likely be a number of time-consuming appeals. They already have one strike to their name at CAS but the club will probably challenge any ban any way they can, including through the Swiss courts.


If, as Uefa contend, City have transgressed against their financial fair play rules, then the Premier League will be forced to act, too. The same regulations will have been breached domestically. There is no real appetite to sanction the club but it would be inevitable. A points deduction would be the obvious option.


At that juncture it might make sense for City to back down, swallow their pride and take the punishment. In a season where they are 22 points behind Liverpool with no prospect of catching their rivals, being demoted a few places down the table would not be the worst thing, especially if they are suspended from the Champions League for next season. This would be painful but would have little long-term effect. Dragging everyone through the courts might end up significantly more damaging.


Uefa will make their decision clear soon. If the ruling body are feeling vindictive, they will announce it around City’s Champions League knockout round tie with Real Madrid. Real are leading lights in the old-money clique that have been ranged against the Etihad since the Abu Dhabi takeover. They would appreciate such spitefulness at the Bernabeu and Real would not be the only big club smirking if City and their nouveau riche ways get their comeuppance.

None of this is very edifying. At times like this the game feels dirty.



'At times like this the game feels dirty.' You're only about 25 years late on that score,Sherlock.

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On 21/02/2020 at 19:56, No2 said:

When Toure scored 20 goals from midfield Sterling had a ringside view of the greatest ever peformance by any player in the 30 history of the premier league. When he cries his way to Madrid I hope Suarez is still there and bites him in the face in his first El Classico.

Which one? 

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They just cant help themselves, can they? Their 'if we're going down, we're taking everyone else with us' mentality is utterly puerile and smacks of someone always wanting to have things their way. There again, when you live somewhere where absolute rule is the norm, I guess you would think that's the only way to act.


That said, I cannot get my head around that pair ever thought it was a good idea to use their old logins to access their former employers database. You just dont go  doing it especially if you want to appear professional. Oh and good luck trying to get UEFA to deal with something you accepted £1m in a 'settlement' between the club with no responsibility or liability. Even your 20 grand a day cunt Pannick will struggle to make that one work.


Manchester City's bid to overturn their European ban could end with Liverpool in the dock over allegations that the Premier League champions-elect hacked into the Etihad’s scouting database.

Sunday Mirror Sport has been told that City will “leave nothing off the table” when they attempt to beat the two-year suspension and £25million fine levied against them by UEFA over FFP violations.


City will take a powerful legal team to the Court of Arbitration for Sport – and they will be armed with evidence that threatens to blow the lid off the murky work of football politics.

A central tenet of City’s argument will be that UEFA’s decision to punish them is based on an illegally-obtained raft of emails written by senior club officials that were taken out of context to deliver a guilty verdict.

The club’s servers were accessed by student Rui Pinto in 2015.


Pinto is currently being held in prison in Portugal awaiting trial after being charged with 90 counts of hacking, sabotage and fraud.


Details of how Pinto was able to break into City’s systems - and his motivations for doing so - are likely to lead to questions on how City ramped up computer security after discovering in 2013 that their scouting database had been hacked.

A forensic investigation by an independent team of experts pointed the finger at some former City scouts who had left the club to join Liverpool.

A complaint to Anfield led to Liverpool agreeing to pay a £1million compensation package and both clubs signing a confidentiality agreement.

When details of the episode resurfaced last September, the Football Association decided not to take matters further due to the “age of the alleged concerns” and the fact that the clubs had agreed a financial settlement.


The FA did, however, offer the caveat that they would look again if further evidence came to light.

If full details of the Spygate matter are aired at the CAS hearing in Lausanne, it will put renewed pressure on Wembley bosses to act.

It could also draw the attention of the police, with offences under the 1990 Computer Misuse Act punishable by a two-year prison sentence and £5,000 fine.

It has not yet been decided whether City’s appeal will be opened up to media scrutiny.

Both UEFA and City would have to agree to the proceedings being reported.

City have appointed leading QC David Pannick to represent them.


The 63-year-old, who became Baron Pannick of Radlett when he was awarded a life peerage in 2008, twice defeated the government in their bid to hurry through Brexit .

First he successfully represented Gina Miller when she won her bid to prevent Theresa May from taking the UK out of the European Union without parliamentary consent two years ago.

And he also prevailed when Mrs Miller took another case to the UK Supreme Court, claiming that prime minister Boris Johnson had given unlawful advice to the Queen in his bid to prorogue parliament last September.

Baron Pannick will spearhead a daunting City legal team that also includes legal powerhouses Freshfields, Bruckhaus Deringer, Pinsent Masons and Monkton Chambers.

City have also retained the services of Geneva-based Kellerhals Carrard if they are ultimately forced to take their case to the Swiss Federal Court.



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9 hours ago, an tha said:

Does not sit right with me at all when a player poses with another teams shirt.


Is it even a thing? I don't think I've ever seen anything like it ever before - a player posing with a shirt of another club weeks before they meet in European competition?? Its absolutely crazy. Imagine Salah draped in Barca or PSG colours before we played them last season?

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8 minutes ago, Alex_K said:

Is it even a thing? I don't think I've ever seen anything like it ever before - a player posing with a shirt of another club weeks before they meet in European competition?? Its absolutely crazy. Imagine Salah draped in Barca or PSG colours before we played them last season?

Didnt Ince do it with a united shirt before his transfer from west ham to them? But considering sterling's agent is that ward, Im not in the least bit surprised.

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