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Man City - the new bitters?


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2 hours ago, Anubis said:

What a massive fucking dickhead. Fuck that, let’s go all out to fuck this guy up next season. The club is full of them - Guardiola, Sterling, that demon looking-cunt Bernardo Silva, Sinclair, and thick-as-fuck Micah Richards.

Absolutely spot on.

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Looking forward to more horrible snide cunts taking over at Newcastle. Fleet Street better watch their backs as if they print anything nasty about them they could find themselves on the wrong end of a chainsaw. 

 

What qe as a club have achieved should be welcomed as nothing sort of fantastic as we have build it the right way and have genuinely won our honours through hard work and honest competitive achievement.

 

But instead the anyone but Liverpool attitide is rife and people would rather see a play toy run by some of the world's worst despots stangle the life out of the sport we all love. 

 

We have taken on Despot FC and their bottomless pit and qiped the floor with them. 

 

They won the domestic treble last season and no one gave a shit about it. While we became European Champions and shit all over their hollow achievements. 

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Will any of the major clubs want Guardiola after his stint at City comes to and end? Maybe's PSG because they're just another bunch of cunts. Hopefully the rest distance themselves from the arrogant prick. 

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31 minutes ago, BeefStroganoff said:

What are you on about? I've given Jurgen and the players all the credit in the world (certainly not the owners) but it has been nothing short of a miracle to eclipse a team that can put out two first 11's and that has practically swept up most trophies in the last few seasons.

 

We have had to be virtually flawless to win the title. Thats unprecedented. Its because City are just too damn good. Yeah they lost a few this season, but they should have beat Norwich, Spurs, man U, Southampton etc, a lack of a decent Centre half and some sloppiness cost them. Meanwhile we kept mistakes to a minimum and we took our chances. And we did it all on the budget of Bournemouth and without losing any of our major match winners.

 

Jurgen virtually has 13 players he plays and relies on game to game and he relies on them staying injury free. Pep has two fucking teams. We were flawless last season and they beat us by a point. The season before they got 100pts. They also won the FACup final 6-0. 6 fucking 0.

 

I fear they may be galvanised to win the CL now after yesterdays news. If only for Spurs fluking their way past them last season in the CL we might have had them in the final.

 

Long term lastability needs to be established for us, i just can't see it relying on Minamino, Williams and Curtis Jones.

 

Klopps job is now harder than ever.

His job is harder now that the team is really strong, he's actually won stuff and most of the pressure is off? Total nonsense. 

 

It's always going to be difficult to beat teams that have zero financial restrictions, that's not some big secret, but we bridged the gap through making some incredibly smart business in the transfer market and having a manager who gets the best out of players. That's not a miracle, that's something that can be sustainable. You're acting like Klopp is some God and this was an impossible achievement, which is bullshit and small time.

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13 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

He's got some brass neck the baldy twat!

Come on mate he got where he is by hard work, dedication and fantastic dealing in the transfer market. By no way because of drugs, having the best players and spending a billion. He’s a true great. Hat’s off.

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1 hour ago, BeefStroganoff said:

What are you on about? I've given Jurgen and the players all the credit in the world (certainly not the owners) but it has been nothing short of a miracle to eclipse a team that can put out two first 11's and that has practically swept up most trophies in the last few seasons.

 

We have had to be virtually flawless to win the title. Thats unprecedented. Its because City are just too damn good. Yeah they lost a few this season, but they should have beat Norwich, Spurs, man U, Southampton etc, a lack of a decent Centre half and some sloppiness cost them. Meanwhile we kept mistakes to a minimum and we took our chances. And we did it all on the budget of Bournemouth and without losing any of our major match winners.

 

Jurgen virtually has 13 players he plays and relies on game to game and he relies on them staying injury free. Pep has two fucking teams. We were flawless last season and they beat us by a point. The season before they got 100pts. They also won the FACup final 6-0. 6 fucking 0.

 

I fear they may be galvanised to win the CL now after yesterdays news. If only for Spurs fluking their way past them last season in the CL we might have had them in the final.

 

Long term lastability needs to be established for us, i just can't see it relying on Minamino, Williams and Curtis Jones.

 

Klopps job is now harder than ever.

Let them win the European Cup this year.

 

It will come with a massive asterisk next to it.

 

1 legged games in last 8 and last 4 as opposed to 2.

 

23 man matchday squads, with all 12 not starting available as subs - never seen before apart from final.

 

Neutral venues last 8 and 4.

 

 

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I would'unt be surprised if pep was injecting bull steroids up Kevin De Bruyne ginger arse 2 weeks before project restart, did you see the pictures of  De Bruyne he was about 2 stone over weight. Come to uncle pepe, ..........he'll sort you out.

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I’d like to think that UEFA might be smarting from the decision that City got and, in their own corrupt way, might make it as difficult as possible for them to win the Champions League.

What I can’t stop thinking is that UEFA’s own incompetence, in not realising the poor timing of the case actually gave CAS an easy decision, was done deliberately and knowingly, and that UEFA themselves were complicit in making it easy for City to get off lightly.

I’d like to think the Premier League might also take action against City for the fact that they weren’t cleared of the charges, that they are still guilty of cheating and got off on a technicality with CAS, but that their philandering is still evident.

But I guess I shouldn’t hold my breath.

 

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I’d like to think that UEFA might be smarting from the decision that City got and, in their own corrupt way, might make it as difficult as possible for them to win the Champions League


Hearing they’ve called Collina out of retirement.

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1 hour ago, coachpotato said:

I’d like to think that UEFA might be smarting from the decision that City got and, in their own corrupt way, might make it as difficult as possible for them to win the Champions League.

What I can’t stop thinking is that UEFA’s own incompetence, in not realising the poor timing of the case actually gave CAS an easy decision, was done deliberately and knowingly, and that UEFA themselves were complicit in making it easy for City to get off lightly.

I’d like to think the Premier League might also take action against City for the fact that they weren’t cleared of the charges, that they are still guilty of cheating and got off on a technicality with CAS, but that their philandering is still evident.

But I guess I shouldn’t hold my breath.

 

As much as I dont want city to win the CL, no one can seriously suggest UEFA make it 'difficult' for them to win it? Everyone on here went apeshit, and rightly so, when that dickhead adrian durham on talkshite radio suggested a referee should 'even up' one of the 2nd leg's of our European game when we'd won the 1st leg with a dubious penalty or something (in his opinion).

 

If we go down that road, football really will be finished.

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4 hours ago, Mathewbet1 said:

I would'unt be surprised if pep was injecting bull steroids up Kevin De Bruyne ginger arse 2 weeks before project restart, did you see the pictures of  De Bruyne he was about 2 stone over weight. Come to uncle pepe, ..........he'll sort you out.

Thats very Everton.

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MARTIN SAMUEL: 'Hateful Eight' step up war against Man City in FFP saga as Jurgen Klopp and Jose Mourinho give the game away... the richest clubs are operating as a protectionist cartel

 

They did not waste time, the cartel. Within hours of the Court of Arbitration announcement, there was a remote scrambling of Manchester City's elite rivals and a discussion about the next plan of action.

This is not over. There is still a Premier League investigation into City ongoing. 

 

There is still the chance to pressure and influence those proceedings, as was attempted with UEFA's case, when nine leading Premier League clubs — Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves, Newcastle and Burnley — wrote to CAS on March 9 to argue City should be excluded from Europe while their appeal was heard. They hadn't a clue.

 

They thought City were stalling, when they were actually pushing to get the appeal completed — the club couldn't move forward until it was — but the remnants of that group remain, as angry and desperate to protect their turf as ever.

 

UEFA are reluctant to appeal against CAS's verdict in the Swiss courts, where they have a dismal record but the Hateful Eight — as they are now known within the walls of the Etihad, because Wolves are believed to have pulled out — may join forces with the elites of Europe in an attempt to persuade them otherwise. 

There was certainly talk of taking further legal advice, of poring over the longer CAS explanation of the verdict when it is published this week, seeking flaws that could be challenged or exploited. 

 

Perhaps they will engage the same law company who wrote the legal letter to CAS the last time, Russells.

So that was stage one of the resistance. Stage two came when the managers sat in front of the cameras on Tuesday and toed the party line.

Mikel Arteta was off-message — due only to his connections with Manchester City and Pep Guardiola, because Arsenal are certainly part of this, perhaps even its greatest driving force — but Jurgen Klopp and Jose Mourinho did their duty. 

'A bad day for football… disgraceful… FFP is a good idea…'

 

The irony of Mourinho, who benefited hugely from owner investment during his first spell at Chelsea under Roman Abramovich, advocating financial regulation now he is with frugal Tottenham is almost too ripe for comment.

Chelsea did everything that Manchester City have subsequently, and then worked to change the rules from the inside so that their path to the top could not be travelled again. 

 

Yet, leaving even that gross hypocrisy aside, Mourinho's commentary was flawed. He argued that as City were fined £9million, they were guilty, so their ban should not have been lifted. It's a little more complicated than that. 

The fine was for refusing to comply with UEFA's initial investigation — the ban was for falsifying accounts. It's like being charged with murder, and also resisting arrest. A person could be found not guilty of murder, but guilty of resisting arrest.

 

He wouldn't, however, then get a murderer's sentence. And even City's fine was reduced by two-thirds. Mourinho tried to be outraged but his heart didn't seem in it. Even he must be aware how straightforwardly logical CAS's decision was.

Klopp was different. Klopp imagined a dangerous world of super leagues and super clubs, crushing those below with untrammelled wealth. 

 

'If the richest people or countries can do what they want in football, then that could make the competition really difficult,' he said. 

'I think that would lead automatically to a kind of world super league with, like, 10 clubs.'

What — the sort of league that Liverpool keep talking about, in those secret meetings with other elite members like Arsenal and Manchester United, that always end up being uncovered and reported in the media?

Meetings with foreign power-brokers, often American, who want to create a closed shop Champions League, composed of the established elite?

 

As for making competition difficult, Klopp went on to espouse the German vision of club ownership, a system so competitive it has resulted in Bayern Munich winning the Bundesliga title for the last eight seasons — when no club in the history of German football stretching back to 1903 had previously won more than three on the spin. 

 

Owner investment does not kill competition: it creates more. The penny is beginning to drop over what is being attempted here.

Wolves, having signed the original letter to CAS, are understood not to have been part of Monday's group call. Everton and Sheffield United were always outside the conversation. Why would they lobby to wrap ambitious clubs in red tape, stunting their growth and leaving them at the mercy of predators?

 

The big lie of FFP is that clubs should grow organically. Yet how is that possible if a middling organisation cannot invest further to compete, while its best players are poached? Leicester won the League and lost N'Golo Kante to Chelsea that summer. Ben Chilwell is likely to travel the same route this year.

Southampton could have been an outstanding team across the last decade, maybe another Leicester, but were denuded by Liverpool and others. FFP kills challengers.

 

There is no other industry that does not allow competition from companies injecting capital to improve performance and output.

If Saudi Arabian investment now makes Newcastle a force, how is that bad for the game? Don't Newcastle fans deserve that? Isn't the city worthy?

 

We all know the majority of the 10 super clubs that Klopp is talking about, and Manchester City aren't even part of the group, no matter their wealth. 

Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus, Bayern Munich, AC Milan — there won't be room for too many others after that lot grab their share. Paris Saint-Germain might get a pass but only because Qatar, through beIN Sports, own the game.

 

Newcastle, Wolves, Tottenham, Everton, Leicester, Leeds, Sunderland, Aston Villa — there is no room for them at this table. And the fact one or more might even hope or begin to emulate City is what terrifies the cabal.

Arsenal, with all their advantages, are ninth, Manchester United still outside the top four. If they do not qualify for the Champions League next season £25m of their deal with adidas is lost.

 

Damn right they have a vested interest in finding ways to bar City, or any new challenger. The richest clubs are operating, ever more nakedly, as a protectionist cartel. And that's what is bad for football.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8523111/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Hateful-eight-step-war-against-Manchester-City-FFP-saga.html#comments

 

 

He shoots, he misses. Could have written a great article and went for this shite instead. Hope he enjoys his silver pieces. 

 

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41 minutes ago, davelfc* said:

MARTIN SAMUEL: 'Hateful Eight' step up war against Man City in FFP saga as Jurgen Klopp and Jose Mourinho give the game away... the richest clubs are operating as a protectionist cartel

 

They did not waste time, the cartel. Within hours of the Court of Arbitration announcement, there was a remote scrambling of Manchester City's elite rivals and a discussion about the next plan of action.

This is not over. There is still a Premier League investigation into City ongoing. 

 

There is still the chance to pressure and influence those proceedings, as was attempted with UEFA's case, when nine leading Premier League clubs — Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves, Newcastle and Burnley — wrote to CAS on March 9 to argue City should be excluded from Europe while their appeal was heard. They hadn't a clue.

 

They thought City were stalling, when they were actually pushing to get the appeal completed — the club couldn't move forward until it was — but the remnants of that group remain, as angry and desperate to protect their turf as ever.

 

UEFA are reluctant to appeal against CAS's verdict in the Swiss courts, where they have a dismal record but the Hateful Eight — as they are now known within the walls of the Etihad, because Wolves are believed to have pulled out — may join forces with the elites of Europe in an attempt to persuade them otherwise. 

There was certainly talk of taking further legal advice, of poring over the longer CAS explanation of the verdict when it is published this week, seeking flaws that could be challenged or exploited. 

 

Perhaps they will engage the same law company who wrote the legal letter to CAS the last time, Russells.

So that was stage one of the resistance. Stage two came when the managers sat in front of the cameras on Tuesday and toed the party line.

Mikel Arteta was off-message — due only to his connections with Manchester City and Pep Guardiola, because Arsenal are certainly part of this, perhaps even its greatest driving force — but Jurgen Klopp and Jose Mourinho did their duty. 

'A bad day for football… disgraceful… FFP is a good idea…'

 

The irony of Mourinho, who benefited hugely from owner investment during his first spell at Chelsea under Roman Abramovich, advocating financial regulation now he is with frugal Tottenham is almost too ripe for comment.

Chelsea did everything that Manchester City have subsequently, and then worked to change the rules from the inside so that their path to the top could not be travelled again. 

 

Yet, leaving even that gross hypocrisy aside, Mourinho's commentary was flawed. He argued that as City were fined £9million, they were guilty, so their ban should not have been lifted. It's a little more complicated than that. 

The fine was for refusing to comply with UEFA's initial investigation — the ban was for falsifying accounts. It's like being charged with murder, and also resisting arrest. A person could be found not guilty of murder, but guilty of resisting arrest.

 

He wouldn't, however, then get a murderer's sentence. And even City's fine was reduced by two-thirds. Mourinho tried to be outraged but his heart didn't seem in it. Even he must be aware how straightforwardly logical CAS's decision was.

Klopp was different. Klopp imagined a dangerous world of super leagues and super clubs, crushing those below with untrammelled wealth. 

 

'If the richest people or countries can do what they want in football, then that could make the competition really difficult,' he said. 

'I think that would lead automatically to a kind of world super league with, like, 10 clubs.'

What — the sort of league that Liverpool keep talking about, in those secret meetings with other elite members like Arsenal and Manchester United, that always end up being uncovered and reported in the media?

Meetings with foreign power-brokers, often American, who want to create a closed shop Champions League, composed of the established elite?

 

As for making competition difficult, Klopp went on to espouse the German vision of club ownership, a system so competitive it has resulted in Bayern Munich winning the Bundesliga title for the last eight seasons — when no club in the history of German football stretching back to 1903 had previously won more than three on the spin. 

 

Owner investment does not kill competition: it creates more. The penny is beginning to drop over what is being attempted here.

Wolves, having signed the original letter to CAS, are understood not to have been part of Monday's group call. Everton and Sheffield United were always outside the conversation. Why would they lobby to wrap ambitious clubs in red tape, stunting their growth and leaving them at the mercy of predators?

 

The big lie of FFP is that clubs should grow organically. Yet how is that possible if a middling organisation cannot invest further to compete, while its best players are poached? Leicester won the League and lost N'Golo Kante to Chelsea that summer. Ben Chilwell is likely to travel the same route this year.

Southampton could have been an outstanding team across the last decade, maybe another Leicester, but were denuded by Liverpool and others. FFP kills challengers.

 

There is no other industry that does not allow competition from companies injecting capital to improve performance and output.

If Saudi Arabian investment now makes Newcastle a force, how is that bad for the game? Don't Newcastle fans deserve that? Isn't the city worthy?

 

We all know the majority of the 10 super clubs that Klopp is talking about, and Manchester City aren't even part of the group, no matter their wealth. 

Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus, Bayern Munich, AC Milan — there won't be room for too many others after that lot grab their share. Paris Saint-Germain might get a pass but only because Qatar, through beIN Sports, own the game.

 

Newcastle, Wolves, Tottenham, Everton, Leicester, Leeds, Sunderland, Aston Villa — there is no room for them at this table. And the fact one or more might even hope or begin to emulate City is what terrifies the cabal.

Arsenal, with all their advantages, are ninth, Manchester United still outside the top four. If they do not qualify for the Champions League next season £25m of their deal with adidas is lost.

 

Damn right they have a vested interest in finding ways to bar City, or any new challenger. The richest clubs are operating, ever more nakedly, as a protectionist cartel. And that's what is bad for football.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8523111/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Hateful-eight-step-war-against-Manchester-City-FFP-saga.html#comments

 

 

He shoots, he misses. Could have written a great article and went for this shite instead. Hope he enjoys his silver pieces. 

 

Speaking as a fat cunt - fuck off Bluto you fat cunt!

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