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Man City - the new bitters?


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56 minutes ago, Johnlj said:Ourselves would potentially have the same problem as there are a few good youngsters looking like they are going to have bright futures, but it'll be a few years before we can start dreaming of the youth talent they have in their ranks. The changes to our academy setup hopefully will provide the possibilty of a steady production of revenue from selling on some of them, and hopefully produce a few for the first team along the way.

Agree up to a point, but the best way to encourage youngsters to come/stay is the give them opportunities in the first team - and not just when it’s cup line-ups which are almost entirely made up of kids. 
 

Trent’s breakthrough is obviously a big deal on that score, and if Curtis can do the same then there’s a clear pathway for young players to break into the side. Obviously they have to be exceptional to make it, but even those a level below that (Harry Wilson, Ryan Kent, Camacho, and about two-thirds of Bournemouth’s squad) are brought up to become good players and we don’t act like dicks when we cut them loose. However if they want to be dicks then they can fuck off and play for Fiorentina’s under-19 squad. 

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On 22/02/2020 at 08:35, Anubis said:

Another rat off?

 

 

 

That would make sense as if you were to create a footballer who ticks every box for being a Barcelona player, it would be Bernardo. Small, lavishly skilful, tireless worker and a massive snidey twat.

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11 minutes ago, The Guest said:

I can’t see them losing any players that aren’t out of contract in those 2 years (if the ban sticks).  They will just refuse to sell them.

There was some stuff about if the appeal fails the players could go for nowt, something about breach of contract. They would have a decent case but its highly unlikely any of them would do that. More likely would be more money or even agreement to sell. 

 

 

 

His conclusion: In reality, money talks. City players unlikely to walk out of lucrative contracts or become embroiled in legal battles. But their agents can now demand hefty guaranteed payments/renegotiated contracts for players to stay. City may have little option but to agree.

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I was chatting to 2 scouts from the Manchester Clubs on Saturday after an under 13s game. They approached me and asked me to see the match card, I said to the City fella these lads are too good for league 2, the Utd lad laughed but he didn't see the funny side of it.

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31 minutes ago, Philtrum said:

There was some stuff about if the appeal fails the players could go for nowt, something about breach of contract. They would have a decent case but its highly unlikely any of them would do that. More likely would be more money or even agreement to sell. 

 

 

 

His conclusion: In reality, money talks. City players unlikely to walk out of lucrative contracts or become embroiled in legal battles. But their agents can now demand hefty guaranteed payments/renegotiated contracts for players to stay. City may have little option but to agree.

They’d just send their 500 lawyers around to their house.  I think the likelihood actually is that they will be paying them so much money that another club paying them a signing on fee and market rate wages probably still wouldn’t cover what City are paying them so they wouldn’t want to leave anyway.

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12 minutes ago, The Guest said:

They’d just send their 500 lawyers around to their house.  I think the likelihood actually is that they will be paying them so much money that another club paying them a signing on fee and market rate wages probably still wouldn’t cover what City are paying them so they wouldn’t want to leave anyway.

Yeah, although if the ban sticks then some of those players might want to actually play in the CL and might not be about the money. hahahah I just reread that and had to laugh myself.

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I'm not sure they could afford to keep all their star players, if they get the full two year ban. The lack of CL revenue has the potential to put them into a cycle of making big losses and failing FFP again, hence why they're fighting it so furiously.

 

The wage bill is too high to cope without CL money. Similar to when we slipped out of it, the problem is reshaping a squad with key players on lower wages. They can't repeat the same sponsorship tricks to financially dope their way out of it, so they could be facing years of - whisper it - building a sustainable model where success isn't bought.

 

Or maybe just stop Pep spunking hundreds of millions on fucking fullbacks.

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Far too long to post on here but Swiss Ramble on Abu Dhabi and UEFA 

 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1231847021973245952.html

 

 

The importance of commercial income (and Abu Dhabi sponsors) to #MCFC is evident. It has grown by over £200m in the last 10 years from £18m to £230m, more than any other English club, and accounted for as much as 53% of total revenue in 2013.

 

To further illustrate the importance of the Champions League to #MCFC, this has provided them with a clear financial advantage over other English clubs. In last 5 years, City earned €337m from Europe, way ahead of #LFC €264m, #THFC€236m, #AFC €231m, #MUFC & #CFC both €220m.

 

#MCFC will point to other cases where UEFA were more lenient, especially PSG, where the organisation ultimately sided with the French club’s appeal to CAS, despite clear similarities with City, i.e. allegedly overstating sponsorships, as commercial income rose €222m in 7 years. 

 

Similarly, CAS told UEFA that Milan’s two-year ban was not proportionate and they had not properly assessed some “important elements”, resulting in the ban being halved to one year. It is worth noting that Milan have accumulated €543m of losses in the last six years.

 

Last February CAS also ruled in favour of Galatasaray, who had objected to a decision by UEFA to re-open a FFP investigation, though this appears to be more of a technicality, i.e. UEFA had failed to review the case within the prescribed timeline.

 

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Have to admire Rui Pinto (outwith his dreadful haircut), him extracting that cache of emails has basically enabled us to see what we knew all along that Manchester city are a gang of oil money cheats and that Cristiano Ronaldo is a rapist.

 

I wonder if he hacked Liverpool's servers as well, but there was just nothing juicy to get their teeth into, it was just Bobby and Klopp sending load of emails to each other about dental specialists.

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5 hours ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

I'm not sure they could afford to keep all their star players, if they get the full two year ban. The lack of CL revenue has the potential to put them into a cycle of making big losses and failing FFP again, hence why they're fighting it so furiously.

 

The wage bill is too high to cope without CL money. Similar to when we slipped out of it, the problem is reshaping a squad with key players on lower wages. They can't repeat the same sponsorship tricks to financially dope their way out of it, so they could be facing years of - whisper it - building a sustainable model where success isn't bought.

 

Or maybe just stop Pep spunking hundreds of millions on fucking fullbacks.

 

I think the issue is, if the 2 years CL ban is upheld, a number of players will leave because some will be hitting 30+ years of age and they wont want to miss out playing in the CL.

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5 hours ago, Moctezuma said:

Have to admire Rui Pinto (outwith his dreadful haircut), him extracting that cache of emails has basically enabled us to see what we knew all along that Manchester city are a gang of oil money cheats and that Cristiano Ronaldo is a rapist.

 

I wonder if he hacked Liverpool's servers as well, but there was just nothing juicy to get their teeth into, it was just Bobby and Klopp sending load of emails to each other about dental specialists.

Those all expensive paid trips to Blackpool for Klopp and an unnamed guest mustn't have been juicy enough.

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For me the nightmare scenario for them is perhaps if they appeal, only manage to drag the process out for another 12 months whilst the lawyers argue the toss, and the ban instead gets imposed for 2021-22 and 2022-23. The indecision will drag out that much longer, and their every dealing for the next six to 12 months will take place with the will-it-won’t-it looming, and then for another two years during the ban. Lovely stuff. 
 

According to transfermarkt.com Silva and Bravo are out of contract this summer - Bravo is no great loss, and every City fan is convinced that Phil Foden will instantly replace Silva (that’s why he’s barely played a minute of first team football this season - the best way he can prepare for regular first team football is to play virtually no first team football). 
 

In the summer of 2021 it will be Aguero, Fernandinho and Sane who are out of contract. They definitely won’t worry about the prospect of all three leaving for free in the space of a few weeks. 
 

And 12 months after that it will be just the three central defenders (Stones, Otamendi, and Garcia). 
 

The prospect of them losing all those players for nothing, and still having another year without European football to come, would be lovely stuff. 

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18 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I actually don’t care about these oily cheats. I care about Liverpool winning, beating United and Everton, and adding to the trophy collection. These lot are a bunch of classless twats who need to fuck off back to the second division. Everton East. 

As long as they don't ever play my hometown team (Macclesfield Town) again (they trashed the town centre when they played here) I couldn't give a fuck about them. 

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2 minutes ago, Pete said:

As long as they don't ever play my hometown team (Macclesfield Town) again (they trashed the town centre when they played here) I couldn't give a fuck about them. 

You need a bit of mad for it. 
 

Of course, it wasn’t them. The cartel embedded dipper fans to make them look bad. They were just there for the sunnnshhiiiiiiinnnneeeeeee. 

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3 hours ago, rotoq said:

Me: I don't care about records. Win the trophy. Win our first league in 30 years and win more.

 

Also me: Take every record those city cunts have bought.


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“They task me! They task me, and I shall have them! I'll chase them round the Moons of Nibia, and round the Antares Maelstrom, and round Perdition's flames before I give them up!”

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