Man City - the new bitters?

[an tha]

31 minutes ago, No2 said:

We don't know that UEFA ever used those hacked emails. What's to say they didn't just say to City we believe something untoward has gone down, can please send us the email correspondence from Mr X to Mr Y on such a date? If you don't produce them well then it's our ball and you're not playing with it.

 

The fine of €30m could just be coincidental but the fact it's the amount one of the owners is quoted as being prepared to spend on lawyers looks to me like UEFA want to fuck them over. That mail about the former prime minister's death won't have gone unnoticed in UEFA and I'd say CAS weren't overly impressed with it either.

It is all obviously deeply complex and as we all know the legal world is incredibly complex.

 

All too much so for me! Gonna be fun watching it all play out though.

[Barrington Womble]

3 hours ago, Leyton388 said:

The Athletic are reporting that city are going to look into their rivals finances.

 

If their defence is "but others are doing it" then they're fucked.

 

Bunch of fannies

 

How exactly are city planning to do that? Aside from published accounts, are they suggesting they want to start a corporate espionage racket to go along with their alleged fraudulent activities? 

3 hours ago, joe_fishfish said:

 

The entire BBC Sport operation is run from Salford these days, no surprise that they're so pro-Mancunian.

I realise that. Doesn't mean they should be acting like they're on city's payroll. It's the fucking BBC! 

[Leyton388]

14 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

How exactly are city planning to do that? Aside from published accounts, are they suggesting they want to start a corporate espionage racket to go along with their alleged fraudulent activities? 

I realise that. Doesn't mean they should be acting like they're on city's payroll. It's the fucking BBC! 

 

A dossier on Europe’s biggest clubs’ financial dealings that City have been collating over more than a year could soon come into play. These are all routine dealings but City will ask why their own sponsorship agreements are any different.

 

City will want answers about the finances Juventus receive from Fiat, which is owned by the Agnelli family. Andrea Agnelli, the Juventus president, is a member of the UEFA executive committee and is said to have brought PSG’s president, Nasser Al-Khelaifi into the fold.

Last year a new deal with Jeep, which is owned by Fiat, increased the car company’s annual sponsorship of the club by £20.7 million per season, bringing the total to around £40m per season.

 

City may also bring up Bayern’s recent contract extension with official car supplier Audi, which owns an 8.33 percent stake in the club. That was worth between £45 million and £55 million to the club.

 

City have also been taking note of transfer deals between some leading clubs that would appear to have benefited both parties.

[RJ Fan club]

3 hours ago, Johnlj said:

UEFA will make Real Madrid do a Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart kind of thing. No doubt about it.

For the non virgins, what is that? 

[Davelfc]

8 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

 

A dossier on Europe’s biggest clubs’ financial dealings that City have been collating over more than a year could soon come into play. These are all routine dealings but City will ask why their own sponsorship agreements are any different.

 

City will want answers about the finances Juventus receive from Fiat, which is owned by the Agnelli family. Andrea Agnelli, the Juventus president, is a member of the UEFA executive committee and is said to have brought PSG’s president, Nasser Al-Khelaifi into the fold.

Last year a new deal with Jeep, which is owned by Fiat, increased the car company’s annual sponsorship of the club by £20.7 million per season, bringing the total to around £40m per season.

 

City may also bring up Bayern’s recent contract extension with official car supplier Audi, which owns an 8.33 percent stake in the club. That was worth between £45 million and £55 million to the club.

 

City have also been taking note of transfer deals between some leading clubs that would appear to have benefited both parties.

Classless fucking snitches. 

[Gnasher]

2 hours ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

It'll be interesting to see what Guardiola does. He's an exceptional coach, but also pretty naive, as shown by his yellow ribbon stand. His Cruyffian idealism has made him blind to the means that facilitate his aesthetically beautiful football ends. 

 

If they lose the CAS appeal, and drag this out for months/years in order to delay any ban, it'll just be hanging over him. Any success achieved in the interim is like a goal that's due to be VAR checked. 

 

He's looking pretty tired. The questions aren't going away, and it'll be a constant drip effect over the course of his final season. Each win written up with a parting shot, a paragraph about ongoing legal action, framing their success against alleged offences.

 

It'll hurt them in the short term, but an expedited process, a clean break from Guardiola, those who oversaw the cheating, and accepting the ban (bartered down to one season) is the only way to draw a line under the affair and salvage what little dignity they have left. I won't hold my breath.

Why was his yellow ribbon stand naive?

[Horus]

Snitches get stitches.

[Baltar]

The reaction of City is typical of their owners. Deny any wrongdoing with total bluster even though we all know they're guilty, an entitled attitude from people who answer to no one in their country and above the law. They think they should be untouchable outside of the UAE too.

[Pete]

28 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

 

A dossier on Europe’s biggest clubs’ financial dealings that City have been collating over more than a year could soon come into play. These are all routine dealings but City will ask why their own sponsorship agreements are any different.

 

City will want answers about the finances Juventus receive from Fiat, which is owned by the Agnelli family. Andrea Agnelli, the Juventus president, is a member of the UEFA executive committee and is said to have brought PSG’s president, Nasser Al-Khelaifi into the fold.

Last year a new deal with Jeep, which is owned by Fiat, increased the car company’s annual sponsorship of the club by £20.7 million per season, bringing the total to around £40m per season.

 

City may also bring up Bayern’s recent contract extension with official car supplier Audi, which owns an 8.33 percent stake in the club. That was worth between £45 million and £55 million to the club.

 

City have also been taking note of transfer deals between some leading clubs that would appear to have benefited both parties.

Er. Isn’t that what transfers are supposed to do???

[Horus]

Seriously though, taking on other multiple superclubs at the same time could end up making things worse for city. Everything will be leaked concerning them.

[El Rojo]

Not to forget, for all their flouting of the rules, they still couldn’t get near a European Cup Final. Even Spurs stopped them. Spurs. 

[Anubis]

And we just sit back and watch them eat themselves.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

 

[sir roger]

At best , the 'dossier' might get other clubs in trouble, but that won't do any good for City themselves. 

 

They were in a similar predicament to PSG when they got the first fine , but instead of working with UEFA and paying a bit of lip-service like PSG did , their hierarchy thought that if they can whip people in public squares without issue , they weren't going to bow down to some European technocrats.

[Chocoholic]

 

HAHAHAHAHA!

[Barrington Womble]

46 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

 

A dossier on Europe’s biggest clubs’ financial dealings that City have been collating over more than a year could soon come into play. These are all routine dealings but City will ask why their own sponsorship agreements are any different.

 

City will want answers about the finances Juventus receive from Fiat, which is owned by the Agnelli family. Andrea Agnelli, the Juventus president, is a member of the UEFA executive committee and is said to have brought PSG’s president, Nasser Al-Khelaifi into the fold.

Last year a new deal with Jeep, which is owned by Fiat, increased the car company’s annual sponsorship of the club by £20.7 million per season, bringing the total to around £40m per season.

 

City may also bring up Bayern’s recent contract extension with official car supplier Audi, which owns an 8.33 percent stake in the club. That was worth between £45 million and £55 million to the club.

 

City have also been taking note of transfer deals between some leading clubs that would appear to have benefited both parties.

Maybe I am missing something. Bayern and juventus are two genuine global brands. We got 45m a year from SCB, before we get some other mental amount from AXA for the training shirts and another 5m from WU on the sleave. So those juve and Munich deals would seem reasonably inline with market rates when you consider how both dominate their domestic markets. 

 

As for transfers benefitting both parties, isn't that the idea of transfers? Roma needed money to comply with ffp for example. We understood that so held out that they'd have to take our bid for salah? It was good for us as we got a player for maybe 10m less than we might otherwise, good for Roma because they didn't fall foul of ffp and were.in effect having a fire sale. 

[an tha]

"City will want answers"

 

Hey you cheating fucking twats - you are answering the questions in this, not asking them.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

Hopefully they're cocky attitude will stop any chance of uefa backing down

[Horus]

 

I demand you tell me how those old folks died.

[Bob]

18 minutes ago, Horus said:

 

I demand you tell me how those old folks died.

Negged for unpleasantness.

[Jennings]

I think their defence is a bit like Fred West saying “Yeah, but what about Peter Sutcliffe! He killed a load of women too! So just let it go!“ 

[Reckoner]

They are basically the guy in court shouting at the judge for sending him down, it tends to work out not so well

[Babb'sBurstNad]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Why was his yellow ribbon stand naive?

He seemingly never considered the glass house he was standing in.

 

He wore a yellow ribbon to highlight imprisoned Catalan separatists, seen as political prisoners. A fine stand for human rights. Meanwhile, he's employed by a sportswashing venture of an authoritarian state that has its own political prisoners; ones who've been afforded even less due process. When probed, he had no real answers. The yellow ribbon disappeared.

 

The original sentiment was fine, but it exposed his naivety. Klopp sidesteps big questions for a reason, he says he's too focused on football, but in reality it shows a hard nosed pragmatism I think Pep lacks.

[A_S]

20 minutes ago, Reckoner said:

They are basically the guy in court shouting at the judge for sending him down, it tends to work out not so well

Sideshow Bob after rigging the mayoral election. It's a shame David Luiz doesn't play for them. The memes would've written themselves. 

[Leyton388]

I didn't know the ban effected Division 2 teams back then.

 

spanishblue

Did they deduct liverpool points or remove there previous trophies when they got us all banned for five years ?