Self Defence at Work.

[Aventus]

 

 

Would the same people who used it in the past have used "white" instead of "black" for people they'd have considered to be white?

 

"You white beauty"

Present day, if you have anything positive to say about a white person, and prefaced it with the word white, then that would now become racist itself. White supremacy type stuff.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Didn't they refer to a number of black athletes, models, actresses throughout the past decades using a word with positive connotations predicated by "black"? Is all that now offensive?

I’d have to see examples as context and connotation is important.

[Bellflower]

Does he carry a small child at football matches ?

He might have history..............

[SasaS]

Would the same people who used it in the past have used "white" instead of "black" for people they'd have considered to be white?

 

"You white beauty"

 

 

Yes. As in great white hope.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

I came in slightly late, he's calling me a knob head etc, I tell him to fuck off and mind his own business seeing as he works in a different department. He marches across the room waving his finger in my face telling me he's gonna kick my head in at home time then he walks off.

Couple of hours later after break, I noticed its slightly after the end of break time, I shout into the next room "it's 11 past, time to get back to work" while walking off chuckling to myself, I hear him calling me a dickhead.

I go upstairs, sit at my desk, and a couple of seconds later he flys in and punches me asking if I still think its funny.

Home time? Could you not just tell the teacher?

[Numero Veinticinco]

Yes. As in great white hope.

That’s either really funny or... not.

[tokyojoe]

Kill him. If he's dead he can't talk.

[Rico1304]

He’s fucked. Whatever you said he’s run up stairs and hit you.

 

How long you worked there?

[Jennings]

Black pudding is offensive though. 

 

Because it takes like shit. 

 

Negged. Obviously.

[Aventus]

He’s fucked. Whatever you said he’s run up stairs and hit you.

 

How long you worked there?

About 5 years, him about a year or so.

 

The meeting I've been invited to is a disciplinary hearing, so by the looks of it they are trying to nail me too.

[Tj hooker]

If you're not in a Union join one

If you are in a Union talk to their solicitor

From what you said it sounds like self defence... always be a member of a Union

Not 100 % sure if your a member when the incident occurred that you can call on a union

[Rico1304]

About 5 years, him about a year or so.

The meeting I've been invited to is a disciplinary hearing, so by the looks of it they are trying to nail me too.

So you’re ok in respect of them not being able to fire you without a valid reason.

 

Does the disciplinary letter you’ve received lay out the reason for the hearing? So, is it your disciplinary or are you a witness in Rocky’s?

 

Best advice echoes what other people have said, get advice from an employment lawyer or join a union. Your membership of the union doesn’t have to have been prior to the incident. Kirsty Rodgers at DWF in Liverpool is goood (if you are in Liverpool)

[Aventus]

 

 

So you’re ok in respect of them not being able to fire you without a valid reason.

 

Does the disciplinary letter you’ve received lay out the reason for the hearing? So, is it your disciplinary or are you a witness in Rocky’s?

 

Best advice echoes what other people have said, get advice from an employment lawyer or join a union. Your membership of the union doesn’t have to have been prior to the incident. Kirsty Rodgers at DWF in Liverpool is goood (if you are in Liverpool)

I'm in Manchester.

 

The disciplinary invite is to defend myself against possible gross misconduct.

[Pidge]

If it is clearly a matter of your discipline in question you can always ask them - in writing - whether you should seek advice.  They can either say yes, in which case you should be able to ask for more time, or no in which case any formal measures against you wouldn't reflect well on them.  Or ignore it completely, which also wouldn't reflect well on them.

 

Main thing is stay calm and professional.  Show willingness to maintain a constructive mindset, but don't agree to anything you aren't comfortable with.  In all likelihood they will just want it all to go away, but it happened, you were assaulted in your place of work and they shouldn't diminish that.

 

Oh and listen to Anubis over us amateurs. 

 

edit: in the case of the above, get your contract or a copy of whatever internal policy is in place and review the firm's defiinition of "gross misconduct" with the events in mind.

[Numero Veinticinco]

 

I'm in Manchester.

 

The disciplinary invite is to defend myself against possible gross misconduct.

Lawyer up, mate. Seriously.

[Paulie Dangerously]

Laughing at the idea of two fully grown fellas brawling in a call centre. Headsets everywhere. Women screaming. Call queue building.

 

This isn't the situation but I'm still giggling

[Rico1304]

I'm in Manchester.

The disciplinary invite is to defend myself against possible gross misconduct.

In that case Danielle Ingham at Shoosmiths is good, if she’s not the right person she’ll point you to someone else in the business. The number for Shoosmiths is 03700 865600. Tell work you need more time to get representation, your letter should say you have the right to bring someone.

[Jennings]

Impressed with the GF's response. Reps all round.

 

You haven't touched upon my area of expertise yet, so I have kept my counsel,  However, if anyone does need a cup of tea, just let me know  - and I'm all over it!!

[Aventus]

Impressed with the GF's response. Reps all round.

 

You haven't touched upon my area of expertise yet, so I have kept my counsel, However, if anyone does need a cup of tea, just let me know - and I'm all over it!!

Agreed, thank you everyone.

 

At least now I feel like I can walk in there with more than my dick in my hand.

 

Unless I'm victorious, then I fully intend on pulling it out and windmilling all over the place.

[Rico1304]

Agreed, thank you everyone.

At least now I feel like I can walk in there with more than my dick in my hand.

Unless I'm victorious, then I fully intend on pulling it out and windmilling all over the place.

Good luck.

[Lee909]

Threaten to butch slap everyone in the meeting unless the back you 100%

[AngryOfTuebrook]

She called another black lad there "chocolate finger" all the time. He just smiled it off. I'd have nutted the racist cow

Was she being racist, or did she just know that he used cheap bog roll?

[Lee909]

Thinking we need some strategies for the meeting

 

[Lee909]

 

[deiseach]

Agreed, thank you everyone.

 

At least now I feel like I can walk in there with more than my dick in my hand.

 

Unless I'm victorious, then I fully intend on pulling it out and windmilling all over the place.

Oh Manchester

OH MANCHESTER

Is full of...

 

Then again, maybe not.