January 2019 Transfer Thread

[razor]

2 hours ago, mattyq said:

They go to a school in Rainhill which is a pretty decent one by all accounts

Has to be a wrench for a young lad from Spain or wherever who comes over at 16 but I'd expect they have a lot of help and support even if it just maximises the chance of a healthy return 

My mate used to teach there.  He taught Sterling.  He said he wasn't a massive helmet.  Don't tell CD.

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, Trumo said:

Coutinho the crack of Barcelona? Considering their fans nicknames themselves 'cules' which is basically Catalan for 'arses', are they suggesting that he is the arsehole amongst them? If so, there's a serious lack of self-awareness there.

He scored 8 in 18 and and created 5 assists last season. Only 5 goals in 18 this year and the 1 assist. Not sure how many off the bench but they are a fickle lot over there. Seems if you aren't Messi then you can fuck off yer shit 

[Carvalho Diablo]

20 minutes ago, razor said:

My mate used to teach there.  He taught Sterling.  He said he wasn't a massive helmet.  Don't tell CD.

YER WHAAAA???

[SammyAftershave]

So, Noddy Holder shags Poodles? Why the fuck is it manifesting in the transfer thread? Is there a new Netflix series?

[TheBitch]

6 hours ago, Anubis said:

So, we get The Bitch to show some of his sweet lovin’ to Mme. Rabiot, and that’ll ensure young Adrien toes the Klopp party line....

 

Where do I sign?

[3 Stacks]

2 hours ago, Trumo said:

Coutinho the crack of Barcelona? Considering their fans nicknames themselves 'cules' which is basically Catalan for 'arses', are they suggesting that he is the arsehole amongst them? If so, there's a serious lack of self-awareness there.

A "crack" is a top player. It's a football expression used in a bunch of countries, but not England it seems. 

[m0e]

19 hours ago, Jose Jones said:

Klopp obviously preferred Solanke to Origi last season because he only let Origi go on loan after seeing them both in pre-season.

 

He was also preferred to Sturridge as first back up striker on the odd occasion Sturridge was fit.

 

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It is possible we bought Solanke hoping he’d develop but also knew we would be able to flog him on if it didn’t work out.

 

Isn't that the hope on most transfers?

 

 

[Jose Jones]

5 minutes ago, m0e said:

 

Well, Barry seemed to be suggesting we just bought Solanke for the sole reason he was a free agent and we could sell him on for a profit and we never thought he'd be any good. 

And I thought you were agreeing with his viewpoint, to be honest.

[m0e]

9 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

Well, Barry seemed to be suggesting we just bought Solanke for the sole reason he was a free agent and we could sell him on for a profit and we never thought he'd be any good. 

And I thought you were agreeing with his viewpoint, to be honest.

I think there are several factors to why we'd take a punt:

 

- budget constraints (mainly on long contracts)

- the English quota

- longer-term targets currently unavailable

- longer-term injuries

- high-salary players out on loan

- inability to sell players at 'market value'

 

With the last two points, we knew it would be tough to sell both Origi and Sturridge, who are both on hefty salaries. There's no way our model allows for another top signing up front with those two still on the books. Hence, why I see Barry's point, although I'm not sure it's as black and white as that for the reasons I outlined above.

 

For example, Shaqiri is another 'punt'. One that happens to be working out nicely for the time being, and won't be a huge problem if it fizzles out.

[razor]

1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

A "crack" is a top player. It's a football expression used in a bunch of countries, but not England it seems. 

No, we prefer "stud", 3Stacks.

[joe_fishfish]

5 hours ago, razor said:

No, we prefer "stud", 3Stacks.

We fucking do not.

[El Rojo]

Looking forward to @3 Stacks list of 15 Young Studs To Watch Out For In 2019 (Number 4 Will Shock You!)

[Barrington Womble]

14 hours ago, No2 said:

Is that such a bad thing though?They had a shot at a dream ( one I'm still clinging to btw) and it didn't work out, you study teaching for 5 years and decide it's not for you then it's back to square one. These lads are starting their "new lives" mortgage free half the time.

you're talking like we find these kids kicking a ball behind the local chippy. we're bringing in kids from all over the country and around europe who already have a shot - they're playing for academy sides elsewhere. then they get surrounded by agents and talked about what they can make as an academy player (make no mistake there are inducements, my missus mate has a boy at City and it's incredible what they threw at her) and then they end up miles from their family, often in a country where they don't speak the language. I just think it is wrong and I cannot think of too many professions where this would happen. for every raheem sterling who's done great out of it, there are 10's of these kids who get nowhere and they're childhoods are taken from them. The sad thing is, there are rules around all this, but the clubs just look for loophole after loophole like a panama accountant. 

[Trumo]

Brechin's a pretty tough place when you don't speak the language.

[Guest]

Jurgen Klopp says Liverpool’s recent big-money signings are an exception rather than the rule.

Last January Klopp spent big with the £75million arrival of Virgil van Dijk from Southampton – a world-record fee for a defender.

 

And after selling Philippe Coutinho to Barcelona the same month the Reds followed up the Van Dijk deal with the with the world-record signing of Alisson for £67million from Roma last summer.

 

Both players have become first-team regulars at Anfield and have helped Liverpool move to the top of the Premier League with a seven-point lead overt tonight’s opponents Man City.

 

Klopp though has warned that the club are not in a position to make huge signings in every transfer window.

 

Klopp told Sky Sports: “We cannot do that constantly [spending big on players] and we will not do that constantly. The good thing was that, like most things in life, the timing was important.

 

“We had the money and the players were on the market. We didn’t know exactly when Alisson was on the market and when it was clear that he was, we had to, even if we had to collect money somewhere.

 

“With the Neymar transfer, the whole world changed. Could I have expected someone would have made the move from Barcelona to PSG for that money? No. But then, we had a bit of that money because of Phil [Coutinho] so what do we do?

“We don’t build houses, we invest in this club and invest in players. The money was there so let’s use it in the smartest way and that’s what we did.”

 

Klopp has stressed that it’s not only the big-money signings that have impressed at Anfield under the German coach’s reign.

 

Klopp added: “Since I’ve been here, we’ve always sold players and bought players because that’s how it is. I don’t know what our net spend is at the end, but we bought fantastic players in.

 

“Like Gini Wijnaldum, what a player he is. We bought him from Newcastle, playing left-wing or whatever so that’s really nice. So really good signings and two for really big money.”

[Harry Squatter]

Jean Clair Todibo, a 19 year old centre back from Toulouse we've been linked with on a free or nominal fee looks like he might be signing for Juventus. Real Madrid, Barcelona, AC Milan and Arsenal have all been linked with him.

[Barrington Womble]

44 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Jurgen Klopp says Liverpool’s recent big-money signings are an exception rather than the rule.

Last January Klopp spent big with the £75million arrival of Virgil van Dijk from Southampton – a world-record fee for a defender.

 

And after selling Philippe Coutinho to Barcelona the same month the Reds followed up the Van Dijk deal with the with the world-record signing of Alisson for £67million from Roma last summer.

 

Both players have become first-team regulars at Anfield and have helped Liverpool move to the top of the Premier League with a seven-point lead overt tonight’s opponents Man City.

 

Klopp though has warned that the club are not in a position to make huge signings in every transfer window.

 

Klopp told Sky Sports: “We cannot do that constantly [spending big on players] and we will not do that constantly. The good thing was that, like most things in life, the timing was important.

 

“We had the money and the players were on the market. We didn’t know exactly when Alisson was on the market and when it was clear that he was, we had to, even if we had to collect money somewhere.

 

“With the Neymar transfer, the whole world changed. Could I have expected someone would have made the move from Barcelona to PSG for that money? No. But then, we had a bit of that money because of Phil [Coutinho] so what do we do?

“We don’t build houses, we invest in this club and invest in players. The money was there so let’s use it in the smartest way and that’s what we did.”

 

Klopp has stressed that it’s not only the big-money signings that have impressed at Anfield under the German coach’s reign.

 

Klopp added: “Since I’ve been here, we’ve always sold players and bought players because that’s how it is. I don’t know what our net spend is at the end, but we bought fantastic players in.

 

“Like Gini Wijnaldum, what a player he is. We bought him from Newcastle, playing left-wing or whatever so that’s really nice. So really good signings and two for really big money.”

like i have always said, we have never spent big because we have somehow changed stategy, we're just spending the coutinho money. fsg have spent like that since the day they joined, sell a torres and babel and buy a suarez and carrol. it winds me up this thing sky are always going on about because of the money we have spent it creates more pressure to win things. but we are not really spending. We have a net spend of around 100m in the 6 windows klopp has been at the club and with this 7th, we're likely to sell more than we buy. everton have probably spent more than that in the same period, yet nobody even puts pressure on those cunts to finish top 6. 

[3 Stacks]

5 hours ago, El Rojo said:

Looking forward to @3 Stacks list of 15 Young Studs To Watch Out For In 2019 (Number 4 Will Shock You!)

Might actually start a thread and do this. Few things get me more pumped than talking about some young studs. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Salah, Robbo, AOC, Keita, Fabinho, Alisson, VVD, Shaq. All in the 12 months surrounding the Coutinho’s transfer. If it’s just the Coutinho money, we’ve got outstanding value. We got 100m up front for Coutinho and that lot cost over £300m. Outstanding. 

[No2]

4 hours ago, Barry Wom said:

you're talking like we find these kids kicking a ball behind the local chippy. we're bringing in kids from all over the country and around europe who already have a shot - they're playing for academy sides elsewhere. then they get surrounded by agents and talked about what they can make as an academy player (make no mistake there are inducements, my missus mate has a boy at City and it's incredible what they threw at her) and then they end up miles from their family, often in a country where they don't speak the language. I just think it is wrong and I cannot think of too many professions where this would happen. for every raheem sterling who's done great out of it, there are 10's of these kids who get nowhere and they're childhoods are taken from them. The sad thing is, there are rules around all this, but the clubs just look for loophole after loophole like a panama accountant. 

It's a far from perfect set up at any club but the it's a choice we're offering to kids/parents, nobody is forcing anyone to sign up. They do so fully aware that they are looking at 100/1 chance of making it and for that they are heavily incentivised. Instead of earning a million pounds before they are 21 at an elite club they could join Barnsley  or Portsmouth for a couple of hundred quid a week and greatly increase the chances of making it. 

 

While they are there they have access to best facilities imaginable, a good education and almost a guarantee that some power club will offer them some sort of a chance. All in all its not a bad gig imo.

[Barrington Womble]

15 minutes ago, No2 said:

It's a far from perfect set up at any club but the it's a choice we're offering to kids/parents, nobody is forcing anyone to sign up. They do so fully aware that they are looking at 100/1 chance of making it and for that they are heavily incentivised. Instead of earning a million pounds before they are 21 at an elite club they could join Barnsley  or Portsmouth for a couple of hundred quid a week and greatly increase the chances of making it. 

 

While they are there they have access to best facilities imaginable, a good education and almost a guarantee that some power club will offer them some sort of a chance. All in all its not a bad gig imo.

I am sure it works out for lots. And if you are a local lad, sound. I just don't agree with children being dragged across the country or to a different country, just so a football club has the chance of getting themselves a bargain. 

[No2]

9 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

I am sure it works out for lots. And if you are a local lad, sound. I just don't agree with children being dragged across the country or to a different country, just so a football club has the chance of getting themselves a bargain. 

They can't do it that though, not legally anyway until they reach a certain age.

[Barrington Womble]

9 minutes ago, No2 said:

They can't do it that though, not legally anyway until they reach a certain age.

but they do and all the time. this is what i said in a previous post, there's loopholes everywhere and they all do it, not just us (look at the ages of sterling and ibe for example - neither of them are local boys). i think it's harder to get them from abroad, but they're still bringing them in at 16. 

[TheHowieLama]

The reality is not many of these lads are on track to become rocket scientists anyway. Daresay being involved in the game at a club like ours will get more doors opened for them off the field than staying at home (read foreigners!!!) and hitting the books at their local school - which is the other option.

[Lee909]

1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

Might actually start a thread and do this. Few things get me more pumped than talking about some young studs. 

 

I can safely say nobody wants to know about your porn habits. If you want to pump away to young studs probably best done in private