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January 2019 Transfer Thread


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22 minutes ago, Doctor Troy said:

BREAKING: Liverpool winger Rafael Camacho is set to join Sporting Lisbon on loan until the end of next season, with a €15M (£13.5M) option to buy him permanently in the summer. [@ojogo] #LFC https://t.co/z3eVdrjCaf

 

Considering that would be a record transfer for them, I'm gonna say option is either not true, or, its an option they have no intention of using unless he smashes things up and they can flip him to someone else at a profit

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/juergen-klopp-likes-christian-pulisic-but-the-numbers-do-not-stack-up-for-liverpool-3q90jx9k6

 

Before Manchester United departed their angst-ridden tour of the United States, there was still time for José Mourinho to offer up one more utterance which sharpened the contrast between himself and Jürgen Klopp.

 

The United manager was discussing transfers and attempting to explain why a tantrum is never seemingly far away while the window remains open.

 

“In every pre-season it happens the same, with every club, which is that the manager wants more,” said Mourinho. “It’s our nature, you always want more for your team.”

 

Klopp, however, does not want more. He publicly stated as much after the friendly win over Blackburn Rovers on July 20 and we only have to wait eight more days to find out if the Liverpool manager is a man of his word.

It will mean no Nabil Fekir — the Lyons attacker’s failed medical put paid to that — and no late bid for Christian Pulisic despite the noise surrounding the American international.

 

It is almost two years since Liverpool bid about £11 million for Pulisic, then a highly-rated 17-year-old. The offer was dismissed and the way his value has soared to £62 million, the reputed figure at which Borussia Dortmund would consider doing business, suggests a talent who has made remarkable strides in the interim.

 

Pulisic is valued at around £60 million by Borussia Dortmund

 

But if you crunch the numbers, then it becomes clear why Liverpool — and specifically Klopp, given his inside knowledge of the player and his former club — would baulk at making a bid at that price.

 

In the past two seasons, Pulisic has scored seven goals and provided 14 assists in the Bundesliga. In some quarters that will not been viewed as too bad given that he does not turn 20 until next month (English team-mate Jadon Sancho, 18, scored once and produced four assists in 12 top flight games last term).

 

Yet Liverpool would not countenance paying £62million for a player to sit on the bench and those playing statistics indicate that Pulisic, adept on either wing and also as a No 10, would be some way behind a regular starting place at Anfield.

 

To pay that sort of money, Klopp would have to be buying someone whom he planned to start more often than not and Pulisic is not at that point in his career irrespective of what he, himself, might think.


Mohamed Salah scored 32 goals and produced 11 assists in the Premier League last season, Roberto Firmino 15 and seven respectively and Sadio Mané ten and seven. The bar is set higher than it has been in a long time.

 

For more context, Xherdan Shaqiri has scored 12 goals and delivered nine assists in two Premier League seasons at Stoke City. He is 26, of course, but cost £13.5 million.

 

Scratch a little further and Pulisic scored once in his final 19 appearances of the 2017-18 campaign and completed 90 minutes on just four occasions.

 

Still, Pulisic is a player that Klopp likes, so what happens next?

 

On the one hand, he pushes on and improves his output and productivity because Liverpool have shown this year with Virgil van Dijk, Naby Keïta and Alisson that they are not averse to paying big money for players they believe will come into the starting XI.

 

Alternatively, he sits tight on a contract which has two years left to run in the expectation that Dortmund would have to sell him for a reduced fee next summer rather than risk losing him for nothing.

Liverpool will continue to monitor the talent, but unless the numbers start stacking up on the pitch then there is no guarantee they will lead the chase.

 

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On 1/1/2019 at 12:37 PM, Carvalho Diablo said:

Just put the shite v Leicester game on and the Foxes have that Mo Choudhury kid in midfield today. Only ever seen him play 45 minutes (vs Man City the other week) but he was really fucking good. 

 

One to keep an eye on? 

Saw him against our U23s last season and I thought he was outstanding.

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1 hour ago, El Rojo said:

The most disappointing aspect of Pulisic leaving for Chelsea is that he’ll be saying ‘YOU do the math’ and ‘I’ll buy THAT for a dollar’ in post-match interviews for a club other than us. 

Have Chelsea signed Robocop? 

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19 minutes ago, bizzle10 said:

if we are to take any one from dortmund id take that jadan sancho looks a real prospect will be interesting to see how he develops

Yeah but if pulisic is costing 56m, you have to guess they'd want 80m for him as he actually plays for them. I don't see why we'd pay mental money like that for a lad with less than 50 games to his name. 

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On 12/31/2018 at 8:56 PM, Barry Wom said:

I'm not saying financially it doesn't pay for itself. I would guess our purchases of Ibe and Sterling (although admittedly cheaper, younger and less likely to make it) have funded the academy for a decade, but is this the point? What about all the lads who's careers are ruined because they're taken from their homes too young? Worse than that, maybe their whole life is ruined. I prefer the methodology of the day of heighway where we believed the clubs duty with young players was to make them into decent young men who can hopefully make their way in the game even if it is not with Liverpool, now we have no issue in taking a 16 year old boy from Spain or somewhere with no care for the boy, just can we make a buck. I am happy to say I don't like it. 

 

As for buying players for the 1st team squad (which fits the solanke situation better), I see absolutely no benefit in signing players who cannot contribute from day 1 - which is the situation we have with solanke. The squad system allows us 25 players plus our academy youngsters, we don't need to add fellas who can't play. 

I've never spent any time looking into the Academy / Youth Systems but surely it's not quite as bad as the bit in bold? Do we not educate our youth players? Do they not gain academic qualifications in the system? Do we not provide life coaching around things like money, legal & practical advice? When kids are asked to leave do we not provide a support package or something to help them with the move? It would seem remarkable that we're not helping these kids grow beyond their ability to kick a ball?! 

1 hour ago, Luckyhillkop said:

Good news for Harry Wilson that Pulisic is going to Chelsea. Soon we will get to see his game winning cameo from the bench. 

Wilson seems to be playing in different positions in the CHampionship? Where does he fit in to our first XI when his chance comes? 

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5 minutes ago, Mcfaggen said:

I've never spent any time looking into the Academy / Youth Systems but surely it's not quite as bad as the bit in bold? Do we not educate our youth players? Do they not gain academic qualifications in the system? Do we not provide life coaching around things like money, legal & practical advice? When kids are asked to leave do we not provide a support package or something to help them with the move? It would seem remarkable that we're not helping these kids grow beyond their ability to kick a ball?! 

Wilson seems to be playing in different positions in the CHampionship? Where does he fit in to our first XI when his chance comes? 

I think part of our bollocking from the FA and subsequent ban from signing youth players was because we offered to pay for a kids private education. The rule is you either offer all of your youth team players private education or none of them, you can't have some kids treated differently. 

 

I think when this was brought up we backed out of the deal and the lads parents had to pay for his education, and they tried to sue us or something. 

Apparently City pay for all their kids schooling, seems like we don't. 

 

The worst part of the whole youth setup situation is that players will be kept on just to make up the numbers. We could have a young left back who is completely unaware that he'll never make it, but we'd keep him on because somebody needs to play there, and our actual talent needs teammates. The lad would be wasting valuable years of his life because his coaches are filling his head with shit. 

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12 minutes ago, Mcfaggen said:

Wilson seems to be playing in different positions in the CHampionship? Where does he fit in to our first XI when his chance comes? 

I think going forward Wilson will offer what Shaqiri offers right now, backup to the front three or the attacking point from CM. 

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5 hours ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Liverpool striker Dominic Solanke is reportedly ready to snub a move to Crystal Palace in favour of a shock switch to the Bundesliga.

 

Palace boss Roy Hodgson confirmed his side’s interest in taking Solanke after the Eagles failed to score for a second straight home game against Chelsea on Sunday.

 

“It’s no secret he’s a target,” said Hodgson. “What would he do? Provide an attacking threat. He’s a proven goalscorer through all the age groups at Chelsea and England.

 

“If he comes here, it’ll be up to him to show he can do that in Premier League football.

 

“He’s someone with the profile we’re looking for, and the ability we are looking for. We know him better from the England games, and the performances with England.”

 

However, Hodgson could be disappointed in his pursuit of the 21-year-old, with a report from Sport Bild suggesting Solanke wants to join Schalke instead.

 

Schalke director Christian Heidel has a good relationship with Jurgen Klopp which is believed to be the key reason that Liverpool have agreed a loan deal until the end of the season.

 

Furthermore, the development of Reiss Nelson at Hoffenheim and Jadon Sancho at Dortmund – two fellow young England stars – is likely to tempt Solanke into trying his hand abroad.

Clever Klopps. Send him there so City reach the quarters of the Champions League and have tired legs domestically.

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The original story translated from Spanish to English, just for the fun of it...

 

Philippe Coutinho has cause to worry. The crack of Barca takes several months to a level far below the expected, which has cost him the substitution and criticism of Valverde and the fans.

 

But that's not where the problem ends. Coutinho, the most expensive signing in Barcelona history, not only has lost his place in the eleven, but you can also lose it in the squad.

 

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The Brazilian can be the one sacrificed to bring a galactic who completes the trident, like Mbappé, who can leave PSG. 'Cou', at 26, still has great market value and a poster in the Premier League.

 

The Barcelona would not look with bad eyes the possibility of transferring it if in exchange it receives the same thing that it paid for him, 160 million euros. An amount that does not scare your suitors.

 

 

 

Self Paris Saint-Germain or Bayern Munich are on his trail, but the only one willing to remove the Camp Nou is the Manchester City of Guardiola, who sees the former Liverpool over from Silva, who already has 32 years.

 

If it comes with a good offer, it takes it.

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