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8 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Snowflake? The work he does means that labelling him as a terrorist/extremist/Islamaphobe etc puts him in real personal danger and also harms his business.

Bastani’s defence will be really interesting. I bet he settles and prints an apology and some donation tonQuilliam. 

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5 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

Ride it out. In a market place of ideas, the truth will prevail.

 

That wasn't your attitude when Emma Dent Coad was bitching about what Sam Gyimah said about her. In fact, you said "I fear for her safety".

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1 minute ago, Rico1304 said:

Bastani’s defence will be really interesting. I bet he settles and prints an apology and some donation tonQuilliam. 

 

Just seeing that oily weirdo having to eat some humble pie will be worth it, regardless of whether any money is involved.

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7 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

For someone who seems to see the world so literally I fail to understand why you don’t apply the same standards.  
 

Say I tweet that you are a shit accountant, your wife is a shit Dr (I think she’s a Dr right?) and that then means your job falls through.  Or someone Google’s your name and the tweet comes up and that means you can’t get a job anywhere. Or someone calls you a terrorist, and you can’t get a visa to Oz.  


Mate I genuinely wouldn’t care. It’s not as if his past is a secret. He *did* use to recruit for a shady extremist org. Look up his Wiki page if you don’t believe me? (Don’t know why you wouldn’t) He used to wear that badge with pride, until a couple of days ago. Wonder what changed?

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2 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

Mate I genuinely wouldn’t care. It’s not as if his past is a secret. He *did* use to recruit for a shady extremist org. Look up his Wiki page if you don’t believe me? (Don’t know why you wouldn’t) He used to wear that badge with pride, until a couple of days ago. Wonder what changed?

 

Nothing changed, he just was NEVER A TERRORIST.

 

It's almost like words have meanings, and using the wrong ones can cause problems.

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3 minutes ago, viRdjil said:


Mate I genuinely wouldn’t care. It’s not as if his past is a secret. He *did* use to recruit for a shady extremist org. Look up his Wiki page if you don’t believe me? (Don’t know why you wouldn’t) He used to wear that badge with pride, until a couple of days ago. Wonder what changed?

You wouldn’t care if you lost your job or your wife did? Bullshit. 
 

I know what he used to do.  He talks about it all the time. 

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Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Nothing changed, he just was NEVER A TERRORIST.

 

It's almost like words have meanings, and using the wrong ones can cause problems.

Like Nazi? 

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1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Nothing changed, he just was NEVER A TERRORIST.

 

It's almost like words have meanings, and using the wrong ones can cause problems.

Fucking hell. We’re going round in circles. I can quote you what the BBC said about that shady org, but it’d just be a waste of time. 

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1 minute ago, viRdjil said:

Fucking hell. We’re going round in circles. I can quote you what the BBC said about that shady org, but it’d just be a waste of time. 

 

Yes it would be a waste of time, because it's irrelevant what the BBC said about Hizb ut-Tahrir, because we're talking about an individual named Maajid Nawaz.

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Here’s a pearler:

 

As of 2014, Sheik Ahmad Abu Quddum was a spokesman for the Jordanian Tahrir party and called for the establishment of a worldwide caliphate and destruction of all Jews.

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Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Yes it would be a waste of time, because it's irrelevant what the BBC said about Hizb ut-Tahrir, because we're talking about an individual named Maajid Nawaz.

I’m genuinely LOLing at the moment SD. You know he used actively to recruit members for this vile org right?

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7 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

SO WHAT PART OF IT MAKES HIM A TERRORIST.

 

^ the point you seem to keep missing.

Depends on what how define it. Would you call a Hezbollah MP a terrorist? Is Khaled Mashal a terrorist? I don’t think it’d be that outrageous to call an Al Qaeda member a terrorist for example, even if that person never killed anyone. Par of the course I’d say.

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Calling someone a terrorist if they aren't one on a public platform is wrong on all levels. Especially with the audience that will see it. 

 

Corbyn and this other fella should have very busy lawyers. 

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9 hours ago, viRdjil said:

What are you on about? I thought we had established that Hibz ut-Tahrir is an extremist organisation, so much so that it’s banned in loads of (including Islamic) countries. It’s considered more extreme than Hamas or Hezbollah. Don’t just take my word for it. Here:

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/extremists-hizb-ut-tahrir-targeting-inner-city-youth-in-birmingham-r2nfrfr08

 

also leave the dig out, it’s unnecessary and I’ve said it before I’m not interested... I’m 34 years old FFS. Keep it civil.

FYI @Strontium Dog™

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40 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Bastani’s defence will be really interesting. I bet he settles and prints an apology and some donation tonQuilliam. 

He probably will just say “soz bebz! I meant former extremist”, which is almost as bad.

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Just now, viRdjil said:

He probably will just say “soz bebz! I meant former extremist”, which is almost as bad.

I’m not sure that’s how it works.  And I’m not sure you understand it either.  How is calling someone a ‘former extremist’ insulting?  It’s a compliment, it doesn’t work as the insult Bastani intended.  I’m pretty sure this entire thing is flapping around over your head.  

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7 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I’m not sure that’s how it works.  And I’m not sure you understand it either.  How is calling someone a ‘former extremist’ insulting?  It’s a compliment, it doesn’t work as the insult Bastani intended.  I’m pretty sure this entire thing is flapping around over your head.  

Of course it is. If you were ever daft enough to be a member of an extremist organisation that openly calls for the destruction of all Jews, and also calls suicide bombers martyrs, then you should probably pipe down.

 

Source: The BBC

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6 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

Of course it is. If you were ever daft enough to be a member of an extremist organisation that openly calls for the destruction of all Jews, and also calls suicide bombers martyrs, then you should probably pipe down.

 

Source: The BBC

Now I’m convinced you don’t know how it works.  I give in.  

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1 minute ago, Rico1304 said:

Now I’m convinced you don’t know how it works.  I give in.  

Give it a shot.

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Surely a reasonable person would ask for the tweet to be deleted and an apology which might have resolved the situation quickly. Maajid seems to like drama and attention though so he went straight for the legal action I suppose. After seeing some of Quilliam's funding history it seems like he'd be happy to rake in cash from anywhere though so no surprise.

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What a fucking muppet :

 

 

 

Now he is being a fucking snowflake.

 

This isn't about him being offended, it's about looking for any reason at all to try and cause financial problems for left-wing independent media outlets. Fuck him, the fraud cunt.

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