Fabinho

[aRdja]

28 minutes ago, redheart said:

 

Mascherano was not world class. He was a destroyer. Someone who could break things up. He was not particularly good at other aspects of the game

Redheart knows. Hamann was a far superior footballer compared to Mascherano too IMO.

[m0e]

That Macherano Alonso Gerrard axis could have dominated Europe for years.

 

We were missing competent owners and a proper left winger.

[TheHowieLama]

2 minutes ago, m0e said:

 

 

We were missing competent owners and a proper left winger.

Moof was younger then, covered now.

[Jairzinho]

Of course Mascherano was world class you absolute fucking mentalists.

[TheHowieLama]

Whether Mascher was world class is neither here nor there - Fabinho is a better player.

[Lee909]

He was world class at his job. He job wasn't to create or dictate play. It was to hunt the ball of Mark a number 10 out the game. He did that better than anyone else around at the time, then he gave it to Alonso. Look at the 2007 Champions League final, Kaka doesn't get a yard of space till Mascherano comes off with us chasing the game. He comes off Kaka gets the ball and plays Inzaghi in for the killer 2nd. 

 

Saying he isn't world class is like saying a CB isn't because they are not great and bringing the ball out and starting play or scoring goals. 

 

 

@TheHowieLama is spot on though, Fabinho is the better around player

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Whether Mascher was world class is neither here nor there - Fabinho is a better player.

Solar system class. 

[aRdja]

He was too limited on the ball to have been world class IMO.

[TheHowieLama]

Mascher is another one for the "nothing available in the January window" drawer. It is a big drawer.

[LFC 6 Times]

Mascherano was absolutely sensational, best tackler I’ve ever seen play the game and those mad charges up the pitch he did with the ball were absolutely boss.

[Numero Veinticinco]

30 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

He was too limited on the ball to have been world class IMO.

*shakes head*

[redheart]

I am not sure how you can be a word class footballer if you are not that good at football.

 

Mascherano was an excellent destroyer. Sit him in front of the back four and his was aggressive and nipping into everyone. He could read the game well, break things up and then pass it onto to someone who could play.

 

No world class player is so limited. All the great defensive midfielders could player football.

 

As yourself this question. Is Maguire world class? Nope. Why? Some say he is a top notch defender etc but the other parts of his game are shite. Look at VVD a superb defender, he can read the game etc but he can pass as well as anyone in the team. Just look at that pass for Mane against Bayern Munich. Its that which makes him world class and not just his defending

[Lee909]

Carragher, Hyypia, Terry none of whom were as good as VVD on the ball all as good as anyone in the world in their era at CB. 

 

Mascherano was far better on the ball than he got credit for, his passing was simple but he kept possession and got us moving forward. Not everyone is a Xabi Alonso and he allowed Alonso to play his game. 

 

 

[Jairzinho]

Yes but, as that shows, he wasn't very good at crossing. 

 

Can you be a world class left back if you aren't very good at backgammon?

[Lee909]

His passing stats with us 83-86-86% completion

[TheHowieLama]

He was pretty good at Right Back - probably second to Gerrard imo

[Lee909]

How many CM passing would not look limited when you are playing with Alonso and Gerrard just in front

[Mook]

Mascherano was a fucking monster for us.

 

Can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading here. What next, Torres was shite at throw ins?

 

Fabinho is incredible though, my favourite player at the moment & by a country mile.

[Lee909]

Talking off DM

 

The day Chelsea got Momo'd

 

 

[Anubis]

20 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

*shakes head*

x2.

[aRdja]

16 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

How many CM passing would not look limited when you are playing with Alonso and Gerrard just in front

Didi Hamann for one.

[Lee909]

Didi wasn't close to as good as Mascherano 

[aRdja]

16 minutes ago, Lee909 said:

Didi wasn't close to as good as Mascherano 

Didi was a much better footballer than Mascherano IMO. He lacked the pace and aggression of the Argentinian, but he was a more intelligent footballer and much better on the ball. 

[Lee909]

Not better as a defensive midfielder

There's a good reason one played for 6 or so years as a Liverpool DM in a team that bar 01 and 05 saw little league or European success, regularly finishing with 60 or so points. The other played 150 times for us in a team that was contenders in Europe, had our best premier league season before last year and finished in the mid 70s in points totals before Europe's best team wanted him. Yeah he slotted back in CB for Barcelona because he wasn't suited as a single holding player. Around 140 caps for Argentina and over 300 games for Barcelona in their greatest teams

[TheHowieLama]

STATS BITCH!!