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Did Mascherano ever perform for us to the level Fab is showing now? Always thought he was a bit overrated. Excellent defensively, but a limited footballer. 

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He's excellent and some credit must go to Jordan Henderson as,surprisingly for some,they compliment each other pretty well. I think many expected Fabinho to replace Henderson but it was more of blending of two excellent players who can each do elements of the other player's role and do it well. Great signing.

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3 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Kante is a great player but who would he replace?

Kante would be the best midfielder at the club so it doesn't really matter. Fabinho is the only one I would see as a competitor.

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Just now, mgw100 said:

Kante would be the best midfielder at the club so it doesn't really matter. Fabinho is the only one I would see as a competitor.

Its not about individuals,its about the balance of the team. Klopp seems very content with a hard working and mostly functional midfield which allows the front three to express their ability.

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1 hour ago, Spy Bee said:

He was excellent yesterday, apart from getting absolutely left by Kante for their goal.

He was absolutely gassed and couldn't close him down. Klopp probably should have hooked him when he saw he was running through treacle. 

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1 minute ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Its not about individuals,its about the balance of the team. Klopp seems very content with a hard working and mostly functional midfield which allows the front three to express their ability.

Kante would seem to fit perfectly into that model and would be an upgrade. It's not happening anyway so it doesn't really matter.

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Kanté would play ahead of Fabinho in the Wijnaldum role. Not that Wijnaldum isn't good, but Kanté is absurd. Just dominates every game he is a part of. One of the best midfielders I've ever seen.

 

On Fabinho, nevermind his defensive ability, his passing and vision in the final third is among the best at the club. It's amazing how complete a player he is. Better than Mascherano, for me.

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Kante is fucking immense

He would get into any of the 2 other spaces ahead of Fabinho. He can do everything and would be perfect for a Klopp midfield. He's better than anyone we have in them positions and that's no slight on our midfielders 

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On 23/09/2019 at 14:00, 3 Stacks said:

Kanté would play ahead of Fabinho in the Wijnaldum role. Not that Wijnaldum isn't good, but Kanté is absurd. Just dominates every game he is a part of. One of the best midfielders I've ever seen.

 

On Fabinho, nevermind his defensive ability, his passing and vision in the final third is among the best at the club. It's amazing how complete a player he is. Better than Mascherano, for me.

 

Not for me, Clive.

 

Fabinho is class, but watching a team try to break on us and then Mascherano scurrying back, emerging over the guys shoulders and sliding into pinching it off his toes, as Anfield goes yeah, before breaking out into Jaaavier Mas-Ch-Eranooooooooooo

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10 hours ago, Lee909 said:

Kante is fucking immense

He would get into any of the 2 other spaces ahead of Fabinho. He can do everything and would be perfect for a Klopp midfield. He's better than anyone we have in them positions and that's no slight on our midfielders 

I agree that Kante is very very good but for me he wouldn’t get into our side over Fabinho. Fabinho is 20 centimeter taller than Kante and one of the reasons we have been so dominant in scoring from set pieces over the last couple of seasons is because of the height we have as a team. Adding in a shortarse as Kante over Fabinho would be a very big step backwards on that. 

 

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2 minutes ago, DJLJ said:

I agree that Kante is very very good but for me he wouldn’t get into our side over Fabinho. Fabinho is 20 centimeter taller than Kante and one of the reasons we have been so dominant in scoring from set pieces over the last couple of seasons is because of the height we have as a team. Adding in a shortarse as Kante over Fabinho would be a very big step backwards on that. 

 

I think that's a very valid point.

 

Regardless, Kante plays more of the Henderson/Gini role but obviously much better.

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On 23/09/2019 at 10:47, viRdjil said:

Did Mascherano ever perform for us to the level Fab is showing now? Always thought he was a bit overrated. Excellent defensively, but a limited footballer. 

Limited to world class? I agree.

 

Fabinho is limited to solar system class.

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34 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Lee isn't saying he would get in ahead of Fabinho - he would play ahead of him - as one of the box to box mids.

Exactly 

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3 hours ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

Limited to world class? I agree.

 

Fabinho is limited to solar system class.

 

Mascherano was not world class. He was a destroyer. Someone who could break things up. He was not particularly good at other aspects of the game

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