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Who was that Finnish kid we had once upon a time? Striker. Turned to shit. But where?

 

Laurie Dalla Valle?

 

Crewe[edit]

He re-joined Crewe in December 2014, signing a contract until June 2016.[35] Dalle Valle was released by Crewe at the end of the 2015–16 season.[36]

Zemun[edit]

In August 2017 he joined newly promoted Serbian SuperLiga side FK Zemun.[37] He made his debut in the 2017–18 Serbian SuperLiga on August 26, 2017, in the 7th round in a home game against FK Bačka Bačka Palanka in a home draw 1–1. He debuted as a 82nd minute substite of Lithuanian striker Justas Lasickas.[38] He was released on 1 November 2017.[39]

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It amazes me how promising young players careers can seemingly fall off a cliff. There are probably lots of reasons. Falling out if love with the game after playing from such a young age, injuries, a few knocks taking their confidence and belief they'll make it at the top level, maybe just their attributes that made them stand out at youth level couldn't be added to, and everyone around them caught up, or maybe thinking they've made it when they get to a decent level and subconsciously losing the hunger that made them so good.

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I'm just looking for shite youth players who were all brilliant supposedly

 

Amoo and ngoo I wanted to make it, just for the fun of saying their names

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How’s Assaidi going at Twente @cloggypop?

They are in last place in the Eredivisie and will probably get relegated then cease to exist due to debt. He is actually their top scorer with 6 league goals from midfield.

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It amazes me how promising young players careers can seemingly fall off a cliff. There are probably lots of reasons. Falling out if love with the game after playing from such a young age, injuries, a few knocks taking their confidence and belief they'll make it at the top level, maybe just their attributes that made them stand out at youth level couldn't be added to, and everyone around them caught up, or maybe thinking they've made it when they get to a decent level and subconsciously losing the hunger that made them so good.

I was teaching a young lad to drive a couple of years back and I normally ask people what they do to get an idea of when they would like to get in the car. This lad simply said "I'm a footballer" as if he was at the top of the tree already. I was relatively impressed until I asked him what team he played for. "I was released last season by Crystal Palace and now I have signed for Millwall. I didn't even have a trial, they just signed me up." He lasted about six hours before his constant claims of being unavailable to drive because his training sessions are so intense prevented me from being bothered to try and get him in the car again. 

 

Whoever was talking this lad up is surely setting him for a fall.

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They are in last place in the Eredivisie and will probably get relegated then cease to exist due to debt. He is actually their top scorer with 6 league goals from midfield.

A tragedy. I’ve been to Enschede and the surroundings. A mate lived in Hengelo. Not the most scenic part of the country from memory, But i had a couple of Grolsch.

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Anyone know if David Speedie is still playing?

The Dog and Duck second eleven in the Crinkly Bottom and District 3rd Division. He's still aggrieved he wasn't credited with the hat trick in the derby.

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Not sure if he is still playing but...

 

Almost 20 years since he signed for Liverpool, everyone still remembers the name Sean Dundee. But not for the reasons he would have hoped…
 
When Dundee joined the Reds in June 1998, hopes were high. He had scored 36 goals across three seasons for Karlsruher in the Bundesliga and in 1995 was fast tracked a German passport having been personally convinced by national team boss Berti Vogts to snub an international debut with South Africa, the country of his birth.
 
Yet he never made it beyond the Germany B team, suffering an injury just before his planned debut, and failed to start a single game during his solitary year at Liverpool, making only five substitute appearances
 
Nearly two decades on, he is rarely left off any list of Liverpool or even the Premier League’s worst ever players.
 
Signed initially by Roy Evans, Dundee said upon leaving Anfield that he felt “very harshly treated” by Gerard Houllier, who had been appointed as joint-manager alongside Evans and later took sole control, but today the former striker acknowledges he has only himself to blame.
 
“As a young boy I had a dream,” he says. “My dream was to become a footballer and to play in Europe, and I achieved that.
 
“But after that I didn’t set my next goal. I’m not a (Cristiano) Ronaldo fan, but I completely respect his work ethic. He can enjoy his life when he finishes, and I should have worked more, I should have done more.”
 
Born in Durban in 1972, Dundee played alongside his friends as a youngster and first started to dream of playing in Europe when a friend of his father, who was also a footballer, visited.
 
“The important thing in my career was the moments,” Dundee says. “When I was 10 I was playing somewhere and my dad’s best friend was here. He was from Liverpool and was a big Everton supporter.
 
“He said he’d get me a trial at Everton. Really the chances then were I had no real chance, but it was a real motivation and made me think I could make it to Europe.
 
“It was the switch to make me become a professional. Every kid needs some motivation and that was mine.”
 
Dundee was an Everton supporter himself from that day on, adding: “It’s funny how many ex-Everton supporters ended up at Liverpool when I was there.”
 
After beginning his career with two local teams, Dundee got his dream move to Europe in September 1992 when he was signed by Stuttgarter Kickers, then of the 2. Bundesliga, where he befriended and roomed with Thomas Tuchel.
 
He made only a handful of appearances, but a move to third-tier outfit TSV Ditzingen in 1994 kickstarted his career as 24 goals in a single season saw him earn his big break with Karlsruher.
 
And while Dundee may be remembered for his lack of goals in England, he was initially a revelation in the Bundesliga, finishing as the league’s joint second top scorer behind Fredi Bobic in his first season with 16 before adding another 17 in his second.
 
He scored less regularly in the following campaign as Karlsruher were relegated, but his stock was still high enough that three top-flight clubs across Europe were fighting for his signature before Liverpool swooped in.
 
“I had three options,” he says. “Rangers, Gladbach and Auxerre. Guy Roux, the legendary French coach, was Auxerre manager, and I was on the verge of signing for them, but I wasn’t 100% sure.
 
“Then I got the call Liverpool were interested and I threw everything else out of the window. It happened pretty quickly; probably not even a week from hearing about it, it was pretty much signed and sealed.”
 
Despite the emergence of Michael Owen in the previous campaign, Evans wanted a back-up striker with Robbie Fowler injured.
 
But fitness issues, injuries and Fowler’s return meant Dundee could never break the monopoly Owen, Fowler and German Karl-Heinze Riedle had on the starting spots – and things got even worse when Evans left the club.
 
“It’s easy to blame different people, but I wasn’t fit enough when I went there,” Dundee admits. “That was my first mistake, I had to catch up a little bit. When I did get fit I got injured and that was it.
 
“When Roy left my time there was over. Gerard didn’t want me. He didn’t want a lot of other players either. You have to accept that. I knew I had to leave.
 
“In the time I was injured my biggest mistake was doing a lot of gym work, and that slowed me down. I thought pumping iron was the thing to do, but I should have worked on other things.”
 
Dundee initially wanted to fight for his place at Anfield, but the writing was on the wall when he was told to report back to pre-season training three days later than his team-mates.
 
As it turned out, the rest of the team were leaving on a pre-season trip, meaning only Dundee and a couple of other players were left back in Liverpool.
 
“Ralf Rangnick had just taken over at Stuttgart, he wanted me and I was happy to go there,” he says. “It wasn’t a place I didn’t know, and the supporters and players took me in well.
 
“But I made more mistakes, I hadn’t trained for two months and they’d given me a four-year contract. We finished second in the league, but injuries threw me back again the whole time.”
 
After scoring just 25 goals in his four years at Stuttgart, Dundee had brief spells at Austria Vienna, a return to Karlsruher and Kickers Offenbach before returning to South Africa, where he retired in 2009.
 
Understandably, he has plenty of regrets and now trains young footballers at schools and training camps in the hope he can help future players to avoid making the mistakes he made during his own career.
 
“I want to help young players learn about how it is,” he says. “I’ve had the ups and downs and it’s not easy. There’s young players now on so much money it’s scary, it’s better to stay low and concentrate on what’s important: football.
 
“They say first impressions are lasting impressions, and I’d love to go back and change all the mistakes I made.”
 
Chief among them are his failure to show his true potential at Anfield.
 
“I would have loved to score a goal at Anfield,” he says. “I wish the supporters had got to know me better and I could show them I was better than what they saw.
 
“I don’t really laugh about it (my time there). A lot of people think it was a joke, but I still support them. I hope they do well in the Champions League because it’s a great club. They have the best supporters, what else can I say?
 
“I’m not saying I would have been the best player in the world, but I didn’t make the most of my talent. After training I switched myself off, I focused on other things, but the boy that goes all the way is the one who puts everything into football. I didn’t do that.”

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Not sure if he is still playing but...

 

Almost 20 years since he signed for Liverpool, everyone still remembers the name Sean Dundee. But not for the reasons he would have hoped…

 

When Dundee joined the Reds in June 1998, hopes were high. He had scored 36 goals across three seasons for Karlsruher in the Bundesliga and in 1995 was fast tracked a German passport having been personally convinced by national team boss Berti Vogts to snub an international debut with South Africa, the country of his birth.

 

Yet he never made it beyond the Germany B team, suffering an injury just before his planned debut, and failed to start a single game during his solitary year at Liverpool, making only five substitute appearances

 

Nearly two decades on, he is rarely left off any list of Liverpool or even the Premier League’s worst ever players.

 

Signed initially by Roy Evans, Dundee said upon leaving Anfield that he felt “very harshly treated” by Gerard Houllier, who had been appointed as joint-manager alongside Evans and later took sole control, but today the former striker acknowledges he has only himself to blame.

 

“As a young boy I had a dream,” he says. “My dream was to become a footballer and to play in Europe, and I achieved that.

 

“But after that I didn’t set my next goal. I’m not a (Cristiano) Ronaldo fan, but I completely respect his work ethic. He can enjoy his life when he finishes, and I should have worked more, I should have done more.”

 

 

Born in Durban in 1972, Dundee played alongside his friends as a youngster and first started to dream of playing in Europe when a friend of his father, who was also a footballer, visited.

 

“The important thing in my career was the moments,” Dundee says. “When I was 10 I was playing somewhere and my dad’s best friend was here. He was from Liverpool and was a big Everton supporter.

 

“He said he’d get me a trial at Everton. Really the chances then were I had no real chance, but it was a real motivation and made me think I could make it to Europe.

 

“It was the switch to make me become a professional. Every kid needs some motivation and that was mine.”

 

Dundee was an Everton supporter himself from that day on, adding: “It’s funny how many ex-Everton supporters ended up at Liverpool when I was there.”

 

 

After beginning his career with two local teams, Dundee got his dream move to Europe in September 1992 when he was signed by Stuttgarter Kickers, then of the 2. Bundesliga, where he befriended and roomed with Thomas Tuchel.

 

He made only a handful of appearances, but a move to third-tier outfit TSV Ditzingen in 1994 kickstarted his career as 24 goals in a single season saw him earn his big break with Karlsruher.

 

And while Dundee may be remembered for his lack of goals in England, he was initially a revelation in the Bundesliga, finishing as the league’s joint second top scorer behind Fredi Bobic in his first season with 16 before adding another 17 in his second.

 

He scored less regularly in the following campaign as Karlsruher were relegated, but his stock was still high enough that three top-flight clubs across Europe were fighting for his signature before Liverpool swooped in.

 

“I had three options,” he says. “Rangers, Gladbach and Auxerre. Guy Roux, the legendary French coach, was Auxerre manager, and I was on the verge of signing for them, but I wasn’t 100% sure.

 

“Then I got the call Liverpool were interested and I threw everything else out of the window. It happened pretty quickly; probably not even a week from hearing about it, it was pretty much signed and sealed.”

 

 

Despite the emergence of Michael Owen in the previous campaign, Evans wanted a back-up striker with Robbie Fowler injured.

 

But fitness issues, injuries and Fowler’s return meant Dundee could never break the monopoly Owen, Fowler and German Karl-Heinze Riedle had on the starting spots – and things got even worse when Evans left the club.

 

“It’s easy to blame different people, but I wasn’t fit enough when I went there,” Dundee admits. “That was my first mistake, I had to catch up a little bit. When I did get fit I got injured and that was it.

 

“When Roy left my time there was over. Gerard didn’t want me. He didn’t want a lot of other players either. You have to accept that. I knew I had to leave.

 

“In the time I was injured my biggest mistake was doing a lot of gym work, and that slowed me down. I thought pumping iron was the thing to do, but I should have worked on other things.”

 

 

Dundee initially wanted to fight for his place at Anfield, but the writing was on the wall when he was told to report back to pre-season training three days later than his team-mates.

 

As it turned out, the rest of the team were leaving on a pre-season trip, meaning only Dundee and a couple of other players were left back in Liverpool.

 

“Ralf Rangnick had just taken over at Stuttgart, he wanted me and I was happy to go there,” he says. “It wasn’t a place I didn’t know, and the supporters and players took me in well.

 

 

“But I made more mistakes, I hadn’t trained for two months and they’d given me a four-year contract. We finished second in the league, but injuries threw me back again the whole time.”

 

After scoring just 25 goals in his four years at Stuttgart, Dundee had brief spells at Austria Vienna, a return to Karlsruher and Kickers Offenbach before returning to South Africa, where he retired in 2009.

 

 

Understandably, he has plenty of regrets and now trains young footballers at schools and training camps in the hope he can help future players to avoid making the mistakes he made during his own career.

 

“I want to help young players learn about how it is,” he says. “I’ve had the ups and downs and it’s not easy. There’s young players now on so much money it’s scary, it’s better to stay low and concentrate on what’s important: football.

 

“They say first impressions are lasting impressions, and I’d love to go back and change all the mistakes I made.”

 

Chief among them are his failure to show his true potential at Anfield.

 

“I would have loved to score a goal at Anfield,” he says. “I wish the supporters had got to know me better and I could show them I was better than what they saw.

 

“I don’t really laugh about it (my time there). A lot of people think it was a joke, but I still support them. I hope they do well in the Champions League because it’s a great club. They have the best supporters, what else can I say?

 

“I’m not saying I would have been the best player in the world, but I didn’t make the most of my talent. After training I switched myself off, I focused on other things, but the boy that goes all the way is the one who puts everything into football. I didn’t do that.”

That's a pretty honest self assessment from him but he did look completely out of his depth when playing briefly for us.

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My favourite(only) Sean Dundee moment was him managing to be hit on the back of the head by a lofted through ball by Redknapp at Blackburn away. It didn't actually 'hit him' more that he curved his run perfectly into the balls path.

 

Seemed like the entire ground including the away end pissed themselves laughing, it was that comical.

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It amazes me how promising young players careers can seemingly fall off a cliff. There are probably lots of reasons. Falling out if love with the game after playing from such a young age, injuries, a few knocks taking their confidence and belief they'll make it at the top level, maybe just their attributes that made them stand out at youth level couldn't be added to, and everyone around them caught up, or maybe thinking they've made it when they get to a decent level and subconsciously losing the hunger that made them so good.

 

Think Melissa Reddy has said that Liverpool's scouting of a player's character is of equal importance to their talent these days. There are so many psychological and social factors that go into a player's performance now. Apparently it played a part in us signing Robertson.

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Think Melissa Reddy has said that Liverpool's scouting of a player's character is of equal importance to their talent these days. There are so many psychological and social factors that go into a player's performance now. Apparently it played a part in us signing Robertson.

Interesting!

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Makes sense, doesn’t it. Needs a certain kind of personality to buy in and fit into what he wants to create. No wannabe princelings or big-time Charlie’s.

 

No coincidence either that Oxlade-Chamberlain has come across as such a decent fella in the various interviews and so on.

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