Summer 2018 Transfer Thread

[El Dangerous]

We've done the best business this season of all the teams in our league. Arsenals has been interesting but a bit Gerard Houllier in his first proper season with us. We've addressed so many of our weaknesses and the fact we only need a no10 and back up forward shows how far we've come.

 

I don't think we're favourites to win the league or anything but with a pinch of luck we are in with a very good shout.

[Moo]

We've done the best business this season of all the teams in our league. Arsenals has been interesting but a bit Gerard Houllier in his first proper season with us. We've addressed so many of our weaknesses and the fact we only need a no10 and back up forward shows how far we've come.

 

I don't think we're favourites to win the league or anything but with a pinch of luck we are in with a very good shout.

At the end of the transfer window last summer we needed 4 players, I personally don't think that reducing that to 2 is a massive jump. It's good, of course it is, but even just one more I'd really fancy our chances.

[Numero Veinticinco]

At the end of the transfer window last summer we needed 4 players, I personally don't think that reducing that to 2 is a massive jump. It's good, of course it is, but even just one more I'd really fancy our chances.

Keita, Alisson, Fabinho, and Shaqiri is a massive jump. Like you, I think we are short but we have spent more than anyone, had a transfer for Fekir fall through, doubled the world record for a new keeper. I mean, there’s a limit to what we can reasonably expect.

[CWD82]

They’ve shown they’ll get the right player if needed in January so if it is no one between now and then I think we’ll be fine.

 

Still arguably the best team we’ve had since we last won the league even without an extra attacking player.

[El Dangerous]

We've improved since then with a GK, CB, an actual DM, a top class box to box midfielder and good cover in forward positions whilst only losing Coutinho and Can. Coutinho was already usurped as our most important player bybtye time he left. We don't have to do perfect business we just need to do better than those around us. We will do well to catch City but we're in a much better position to give it a crack.

[Moo]

They’ve shown they’ll get the right player if needed in January so if it is no one between now and then I think we’ll be fine.

 

Maybe maybe not. They showed that last January but only with the sale of Coutinho, I'm sure we'll all agree that we don't want similar to happen again.

Though the purchase of Coutinho and Sturridge in the January five years prior indicates we can do satisfactory January business if the will and expertise is there.

[Moo]

Keita, Alisson, Fabinho, and Shaqiri is a massive jump. Like you, I think we are short but we have spent more than anyone, had a transfer for Fekir fall through, doubled the world record for a new keeper. I mean, there’s a limit to what we can reasonably expect.

Depending on how things pan out I'm sure net spend will come up again at some point. Let's hope it doesn't need to.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Depending on how things pan out I'm sure net spend will come up again at some point. Let's hope it doesn't need to.

Yeah, except it’ll be very easy to counter.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

The thing is, any back up to a specialist position isn't going to be that good. Unless you're a financial doper or guaranteed trophies, decent quality players aren't going to want to get splinters in their arse.

 

If Firmino gets injured, would you rather have Salah central and Shaqiri wide, or a back-up number 9 who, in all probability, would be of Ings' level?

 

Klopp's fashioned a core group who can shift positions, particularly our forwards and midfield. I'm sure we wanted a creative midfielder / number 10, but look at how Mané was used more centrally after Coutinho's departure and perhaps you have the reason why we won't break the bank for an injury risk like Fekir. 

 

I still reckon we sign Fekir though, either late on or in January.

[aws]

Interesting too that Shaquiri played deep and looked good against the Mancs.

[Pidge]

It's been an excellent window.  Yes, if we'd brought in another attacker they would have had to be genuine first team quality, but I don't think we'll be lacking for that extra player to make something happen too often.  Keita will bring a lot of that to the starting eleven and Shaqiri will from the bench.

 

Another striker would have been good but we clearly need to move some on before that's going to be viable.  Even if we shift Ings and Origi we'll be looking at how Sturridge holds up, how Solanke performs and how Brewster fits in.  Not sure who's out there who would fit the bill anyway.  Not many Giroud's on the market and even he blows hot and cold.

[Moo]

Yeah, except it’ll be very easy to counter.

Low net spend is low net spend, it's not easy to counter as you can't argue that we've spent £250m net when the records show we've spent £50m net. That's why it often crops up and remains relevant. However of course it can be talked around, it's merits argued for etc.

But like I say, hopefully it won't come to that cos we'll all be happy.

[Pidge]

It's only relevant in the context of highlighting how people moaning about us buying the league are talking out of their arse.

[Moo]

It's only relevant in the context of highlighting how people moaning about us buying the league are talking out of their arse.

But if we don't buy (win) the league and fall short again and perhaps even sell an important player then of course it will be more relevant, right now it's relevance is diminished.

[Moo]

It's been an excellent window. Yes, if we'd brought in another attacker they would have had to be genuine first team quality, but I don't think we'll be lacking for that extra player to make something happen too often. Keita will bring a lot of that to the starting eleven and Shaqiri will from the bench.

 

Another striker would have been good but we clearly need to move some on before that's going to be viable. Even if we shift Ings and Origi we'll be looking at how Sturridge holds up, how Solanke performs and how Brewster fits in. Not sure who's out there who would fit the bill anyway. Not many Giroud's on the market and even he blows hot and cold.

I can't wait to see Keita in action properly and think he is perhaps Coutinho's main replacement.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Low net spend is low net spend, it's not easy to counter as you can't argue that we've spent £250m net when the records show we've spent £50m net. That's why it often crops up and remains relevant. However of course it can be talked around, it's merits argued for etc.

But like I say, hopefully it won't come to that cos we'll all be happy.

There’s money left to spend. The manager doesn’t want to spend it. There are three options. 1) Let the manager do what he wants and don’t complain about net spend 2) Force players on him to make a few twats on the internet happy 3) Sack him and bring in a Mourinho type.

 

Which is it? Anybody who thinks the players we’ve bought under Klopp isn’t enough should fuck off and support City or PSG. Anybody who thinks Mane, Salah, Alisson, Van Dijk, Keita, Fabinho, et al aren’t enough because we managed to get good money for Sakho, Ings, Ward, et al, are people who need to seriously address their perspective.

[Pidge]

But if we don't buy (win) the league and fall short again and perhaps even sell an important player then of course it will be more relevant, right now it's relevance is diminished.

 

This is kind of my point, it only exists as a stick to beat the club with by those who like a moan.  If we sell a major player and don't bring in some quality players (regardless of how much or little it costs), moan about that.  Put the abacus down.  As a metric for how the club is doing it's totally superficial.

[Luckyhillkop]

Interesting too that Shaquiri played deep and looked good against the Mancs.

 

The way he played in that game soften the blow for Fekir failed transfer and the absence of Coutinho's replacement. 

[Moo]

This is kind of my point, it only exists as a stick to beat the club with by those who like a moan. If we sell a major player and don't bring in some quality players (regardless of how much or little it costs), moan about that. Put the abacus down. As a metric for how the club is doing it's totally superficial.

The dreaded "net spend" tends to go hand in hand with selling players and not adequately replacing them. That is hopefully not the case currently and I'm happy with the business we've done this summer. It only got a passing mention because there's people on here who seem to want to stifle debate, putting down the argument before it's even been mentioned.

[Numero Veinticinco]

The dreaded "net spend" tends to go hand in hand with selling players and not adequately replacing them. That is hopefully not the case currently and I'm happy with the business we've done this summer. It only got a passing mention because there's people on here who seem to want to stifle debate, putting down the argument before it's even been mentioned.

Debate? Seems more like a threat to me. Win or we blame the owners for not backing the manager.

[Moo]

There’s money left to spend. The manager doesn’t want to spend it. Blah blah blah

Is there any chance you might ever stop expecting people to accept your opinion as fact?

We're all happy at the moment I think, no need to flog a dead horse.

[Moo]

Debate? Seems more like a threat to me. Win or we blame the owners for not backing the manager.

Threat? Stop being a drama queen.

[Captain Turdseye]

Will Naby Keita actually turn out to be the Coutinho replacement we’re supposedly lacking?

 

Discuss.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Is there any chance you might ever stop expecting people to accept your opinion as fact?

We're all happy at the moment I think, no need to flog a dead horse.

It’s not my opinion, it’s sourced by Maddock today. I don’t expect anything from you but banal nonsense. Again and again, all wrapped up in self righteous indignation and ignorance.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Threat? Stop being a drama queen.

Yes, threat. It’s pretty clear, you’re waiting for a slip up to get back on your cunty crusade again.