They tried to make me go to rehab and I said.......Ok then.

[Captain Turdseye]

Wow. So you thought they were gonna sting you for eight grand and it was only when you got there that they told you it was gonna be an extra £3,200? That’s a bit harsh, innit? I’m not sure I could take that with a smile on my face.

[Anny Road]

I’m not paying the full hit. If you go on the waiting list (8 months) it’s partially nhs funded but still not cheap. When I look at some of the other fellas here who have been in and out of nick. Stays in nuthouses. Casualty etc it will save the country money getting them clean.

I’m lucky my rock bottom is mild compared to some but no one says you have to stay on the bus till the last stop.

[Elite]

4 hour drive. I’m not wanting visits. Ill see it out on my Todd.

Nah it’s not at all. On all accounts it is pretty hard going. There are plenty of tears. The weekends are pretty relaxed but on Monday for example I have stuff staring at 8am till 7.30pm.

The attitude is if you want to go there is the door. It’s no prison.

Some of the other residents here are completely fucked. Lot of coke heads rattling like Amy Winehouse. Some of them can’t boil at kettle they are that fucked. I’m not too bad and will walk to the gym when I’m allowed to. One women was meeting her daughter today in the town and had to get a lift to the bus stop 100 yards down the road.

Costs £800 a week if you do it private and jump the queue. Lot of dosh for 14 weeks.

I'd have thought a locked unit would be better for combatting addiction as you have no choice but to stay in there, or at least be made to discuss things prior to making a decision to leave.

 

Whatever happens just dig in as there will be times when you get pissed off and want to leave.

[Lee909]

Locking people in wont work.

It might make them clean but if they have been forced to do it they will be back doing whatever vice soon enough.

 

Only works if the person wants to be there and do it

[Anny Road]

I'd have thought a locked unit would be better for combatting addiction as you have no choice but to stay in there, or at least be made to discuss things prior to making a decision to leave.

Whatever happens just dig in as there will be times when you get pissed off and want to leave.

They take the opposite approach here. If you don’t want it locking doors is not going to change your mindset.

I get the impression from the few conversations I have had that some people have spent time prior to this is a psych ward possibly sectioned to get a detox. Now the physical demand has abated they work on the noggin.

[razor]

That’s how I’m viewing this. I’ve always been motivated by external, materialistic things. If I get this job or this car I’ll be happy and complete. It’s bullshit. When it does not happen which was always the most likely outcome disappointment and regret and soul searching begin which is blocked out by the anaesthetic of booze.

I give up with that nonsense and will look for happiness, joy and love internally.

Fuck I am turning into Russell Brand.

 

This is, in its purest form, "it", Anny.

 

Contentment being either intrinsic or extrinsic.  If your concept of happiness is extrinsically motivated its "bar" will always be set by external factors and will always fall short - the whole purpose of adverts, for example, is to make you feel dissatisfied in some way.  It will always move too so you will never feel contentment.  You "measure" your own happiness against others' happiness.  You fall short.

 

Focusing on your inner self is where it starts.  Happiness is within.

 

Professor Carl Rodgers / Razor off TLW

[Fugitive]

£800 a week. You could have gone all-inclusive at a decent hotel for that!!!

 

Good luck.

[Anny Road]

£800 a week. You could have gone all-inclusive at a decent hotel for that!!!

Good luck.

I’d never survive 2 weeks in an all inclusive never mind 3 months.

[TheHowieLama]

At the least you have nicked the WiFi password.

 

Overachiever.

[cloggypop]

This is, in its purest form, "it", Anny.

 

Contentment being either intrinsic or extrinsic. If your concept of happiness is extrinsically motivated its "bar" will always be set by external factors and will always fall short - the whole purpose of adverts, for example, is to make you feel dissatisfied in some way. It will always move too so you will never feel contentment. You "measure" your own happiness against others' happiness. You fall short.

 

Focusing on your inner self is where it starts. Happiness is within.

 

Professor Carl Rodgers / Razor off TLW

The kingdom of heaven is within you - Tommy Hall of the 13th Floor Elevators

[Elite]

At the least you have nicked the WiFi password.

 

Overachiever.

Be wary of those easily complicit members of staff, they'll likely be the ones who'll smuggle in contraband for a few quid!

[TheHowieLama]

Does everyone have to wear those white onesies with the trap door???

[TheHowieLama]

Be wary of those easily complicit members of staff, they'll likely be the ones who'll smuggle in contraband for a few quid!

We call them a peer group

[Fugitive]

I’d never survive 2 weeks in an all inclusive never mind 3 months.

Haha

 

Nah, all the best. Takes some big balls to do what you’ve done.

[Anny Road]

Does everyone have to wear those white onesies with the trap door???

Just no pyjamas or football colours. This is Scotland last thing we need is a sectarian riot.

[Elite]

Just no pyjamas or football colours. This is Scotland last thing we need is a sectarian riot.

Scotland?

 

Do you get deep fried Mars Bars for brekkie?

[Razoray]

Fair fucks Anny. I've said on here that my dad was an alcoholic. Killed him at 60 having had very little relationship with his 4 kids for decades.

I had little respect for him. It wasn't because he couldn't beat the illness. It was that he never attempted to.

Keep at it. Those that love you are very proud of you at the moment. You should be too.

[Kloppite]

I'd have thought a locked unit would be better for combatting addiction as you have no choice but to stay in there, or at least be made to discuss things prior to making a decision to leave.

 

Whatever happens just dig in as there will be times when you get pissed off and want to leave.

A breach of their human rights to deny someone their liberty. Some people will be sectioned and be forced against their will to sobre up but not everyone is so bad they need locking up.

 

Ultimately stopping drinking and other substance abuse falls on the shoulders of the individual if they want to drink or do drugs they will if they want to stop they will although they may need help.

[Kloppite]

Does everyone have to wear those white onesies with the trap door???

Also do you have to constantly wear anti masturbation gloves?

[Elite]

A breach of their human rights to deny someone their liberty. Some people will be sectioned and be forced against their will to sobre up but not everyone is so bad they need locking up.

 

Ultimately stopping drinking and other substance abuse falls on the shoulders of the individual if they want to drink or do drugs they will if they want to stop they will although they may need help.

Not if they sign up it isn't. Plus as I said, you can leave after a meeting with a programme co-ordinator it just delays an absconsion and maybe gives someone time to think things through.

[Kloppite]

Not if they sign up it isn't. Plus as I said, you can leave after a meeting with a programme co-ordinator it just delays an absconsion and maybe gives someone time to think things through.

I think ultimately it would still be false imprisonment even if someone had given their consent at one point of time then they decided at a later time they decided against it.

[Anny Road]

Also do you have to constantly wear anti masturbation gloves?

I thought they were sparring gloves. I’ve been looking all over for the heavy bag room.

[Brownie]

Late to this but good luck mate.

[Remmie]

Best of luck, I'll link you to a mate's very funny booze recovery blog when I get a second

[RedSand]

Posted this in an earlier thread on Alcoholism:

 

G'day mate,

 

I suffer from alcoholism and am happy to help in any way I can.

But I want to be clear that drinking wasn't my problem.

Drinking was my solution to my problems. Alcohol was my crutch. I used alcohol to help me deal with minor, major and any issue I've ever had. School, work, girlfriend, wife, football...whatever alcohol helped me deal with all of it.

 

I've been sober for 5yrs, and it was easily the best thing I've done in my 39ys of life.

I didn't just stop drinking.

Through hard work I changed the way I thought, reacted and behaved so that I didn't need alcohol as a coping mechanism.

 

I hope that makes sense.

I've been to two rehabs. Kicked out the first after three weeks and spent 6 months at the second one.... still couldn't get sober.

I'm 40 now and am approaching 6yrs of sobriety.

Not really a big deal to non alcoholics.

Almost like bragging about not shitting in your pants.

But a big fucking deal to people like me and the people around me. Still the best thing I've ever done. Through hard work, structure, discipline and diligence.

All qualities that are required for success in any field.... whether sport, school, business, fitness, music, relationships or sobriety.

I couldn't do it on my own, so I needed to be around people who had success at this.

 

Be open to new ideas and go all in.

Give it a good go and see what happens. Don't half arse it.

You are welcome to DM or call if you need to chat.

Happy to help in anyway.