Firmino Racism Allegations

[Jose Jones]

I don't think he misheard him at all. He was just trying to stay on the field. Puta does not sound like the n word no matter how you say it.

I think that's a pretty ridiculous way of looking at it if you actually watch the footage. Holgate goes from fake hard man face, to outraged and grabbing the ref in a split second.

It's also pretty clear that Firmino is saying "Loco, filho da puta", so fairly clear that Holgate misheard for me.

[Jenson]

 

 

This is the exact moment that Kenny’s head obscures Bobby’s face from the camera and right at the point Holgate reacts.

There is no fucking way Bobby said anything racist without Lallana, Kenny and the Ref all hearing it.

[Boss]

I think that's a pretty ridiculous way of looking at it if you actually watch the footage. Holgate goes from fake hard man face, to outraged and grabbing the ref in a split second.

It's also pretty clear that Firmino is saying "Loco, filho da puta", so fairly clear that Holgate misheard for me.

 

Explain to me what part of "Loco, filho da puta" sounds like the N word.

[Chip Butty]

This is the exact moment that Kenny’s head obscures Bobby’s face from the camera and right at the point Holgate reacts.

There is no fucking way Bobby said anything racist without Lallana, Kenny and the Ref all hearing it.

The only thing that can't be seen are the workings of Holgates so brain.

 

I'm going with:

Thought 1 - he's shouting at me

Thought 2 - I don't understand him

Thought 3 - I is black

Thought 4 - he must be being racist because of 1, 2 and 3

Thought 5 - He must be saying the N word

[Jose Jones]

Explain to me what part of "Loco, filho da puta" sounds like the N word.

Well in Portuguese the o is pronounced more like an “ur” sound. The hard c could easily be mistaken for a g. Add in the crowd going bonkers and it’s reasonably explainable how Loco is heard as nigger.

[Boss]

Well in Portuguese the o is pronounced more like an “ur” sound. The hard c could easily be mistaken for a g. Add in the crowd going bonkers and it’s reasonably explainable how Loco is heard as nigger.

 

Non of the words sound anything like the N word, certainly not loco. 

[TheHowieLama]

I think he genuinely misheard to be fair to him.

 

No you dont

[Jose Jones]

Non of the words sound anything like the N word, certainly not loco.

Well does ur sound like er?

Does a guttural c sound like a g?

[stringvest]

Well does ur sound like er?

Does a guttural c sound like a g?

 

 

pardon?

[Boss]

Well does ur sound like er?

Does a guttural c sound like a g?

 

It's more like "locou" which is a far stretch.

[SlugTrail]

You'd know you Bolton under Allardyce symapthiser.

he was a big man at a small club, looks like his career has come full circle.

[Lee909]

Mirror Sport understands Madley has included the incident in the report he has submitted to the FA, saying that he did not hear Firmino use the N-word during the exchange between the players.

It is believed Madley has made it clear he would have sent the Liverpool forward off had he heard the N-word.

[s(k)aturation]

Mind you, Madley's competence takes a considerable hit when you consider he also at the time seems to have failed to spot a player - right in front of his eyes -being deliberately shoved off the ball/off the pitch into the crowd.

 

The FA could well look further afield for their pound of flesh than Madley.

[Lee909]

Not rewatched to his position but im guessing he was behind them so would probably have obstructed view. Its more the lino and 4th official who should have seen it

[s(k)aturation]

Not rewatched to his position but im guessing he was behind them so would probably have obstructed view. Its more the lino and 4th official who should have seen it

 

 

Conveniently blinkered and muffed all round.

[Lario]

Well in Portuguese the o is pronounced more like an “ur” sound. The hard c could easily be mistaken for a g. Add in the crowd going bonkers and it’s reasonably explainable how Loco is heard as nigger.

Well does ur sound like er?

Does a guttural c sound like a g?

So "c" sounds like "g".

The "o" sounds like "ur".

And "ur" sounds like "er".

 

Extrapolating from that, I assume "l" sounds like "n", which is why "loco" sounds like "nigger"?

 

Bit of a stretch mate.

 

More likely is Holgate is as thick as two short planks, is dead hard after he pushes someone in the back, then goes crying when he mishears something.

[Jose Jones]

So "c" sounds like "g".

The "o" sounds like "ur".

And "ur" sounds like "er".

 

Extrapolating from that, I assume "l" sounds like "n", which is why "loco" sounds like "nigger"?

 

Bit of a stretch mate.

 

More likely is Holgate is as thick as two short planks, is dead hard after he pushes someone in the back, then goes crying when he mishears something.

Have you ever been to Brazil?

Seriously, that is how the indecipherable bastards speak.

 

Don’t disagree with your last sentence.

[s(k)aturation]

Starting to sound Greek to me. 

[Brownie]

This is the exact moment that Kenny’s head obscures Bobby’s face from the camera and right at the point Holgate reacts.

There is no fucking way Bobby said anything racist without Lallana, Kenny and the Ref all hearing it.

Exactly. So the testimony of Madley, Lallana, Kenny and Firmini himself is key, as I was saying yesterday. There are no video clips available for evidence, assuming we have seen everything. I guess there may be additional video that was recorded but not broadcast?

 

Assuming there isn’t, it will all come down to the evidence of the 4 people involved in the picture, simple as that.

 

At this point, nobody can say with any certainty that he did or did not use racist language.

[Einch]

I would have thought that they would have to back Madley if the report in the Mirror is accurate. They wouldn’t want to be seen to not be supporting the ref. That would be open season for cunts like boring midget twat up the road.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Mirror Sport understands Madley has included the incident in the report he has submitted to the FA, saying that he did not hear Firmino use the N-word during the exchange between the players.

It is believed Madley has made it clear he would have sent the Liverpool forward off had he heard the N-word.

It'll be interesting to see whether Madley's report says "I heard nothing" or "I heard something and it wasn't that word".

 

The former would leave enough room for mud to stick; the latter would exonerate Bobby completely.

[Alan Sex]

Bobby doesn’t speak English well.

 

He was trying to say “my knee hit that board when you pushed me, young fellow. Now it’s going so swell up”.

 

What came out was “fucking knee - grow! Puta!”

[ZonkoVille77]

I'd say they'll defo blame Mo Salah for this. Those bloody Muslims...

[The Guest]

That “I was watching fox and it showed a different angle” stuff is absolutely fucking laughable. As if Fox are either turning up with their own cameras or have their own match director switching between cameras. This is in a country where the Footy isn’t even that big of a sport. Yet somehow in England where nearly every single person watches it we have to deal with “we are not controlling the images so we can’t replay you that offside” every time English side is playing away in Europe. Every fucker is running off the same feed and just commentating over it.

[an tha]

Exactly. So the testimony of Madley, Lallana, Kenny and Firmini himself is key, as I was saying yesterday. There are no video clips available for evidence, assuming we have seen everything. I guess there may be additional video that was recorded but not broadcast?

 

Assuming there isn’t, it will all come down to the evidence of the 4 people involved in the picture, simple as that.

 

At this point, nobody can say with any certainty that he did or did not use racist language.

That won't stop the bent twats at the FA deciding he might have