Texas shooting

[Boss]

3% of Americans own over half the guns and 22% own them all. So the vast majority don’t own a gun.

 

That's true of registered gun owners, but it doesn't take into account all the guns owned illegally or the guns owned before the Gun Control Act came into law. 

[TheHowieLama]

Capitalism has ensured the US doesn't have much of a democracy.

 

The choice last time was between a corporate war hawk with all the charm of a rotten courgette, and a retarded, narcissistic, toddler.

 

You have to understand that the Federal Gub has been dismissed by almost everyone for decades. The voter turnout proves it - it isn't apathy - it is not a single fuck given.

There is a huge shift towards actively returning power to the State level cuz the place is just too damn big for everyone to have much in common. The biggest recent macro change in capitalism here has been selling weed legally. That has come at the State level cuz people were tired of waiting for the Feds to sort it. So now every one in Colorado doesn't pay state tax - they get a rebate check.

[TheHowieLama]

That's true of registered gun owners, but it doesn't take into account all the guns owned illegally or the guns owned before the Gun Control Act came into law. 

 

Yep - there are beaucoup more in circulation (though most of those are handguns with scratched handles). The GCA was like 50 years ago so not many modern semi/stocks would qualify.

 

But you bring up the main sticking point - a guy who is going to go shoot something bigly is probably not too hung up on a legal purchasing.

In fact he would be a little dim to do just that right?

[cloggypop]

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[AngryOfTuebrook]

Because people keep voting for politicians who don't want to change it. That's democracy, and all the capitalism in the world can't make people vote a certain way.

Come on, you're more intelligent than that.

[SasaS]

Capitalism does make people vote a certain way though. Think about the money Trump and Russia spent on leaking Hilary's emails and the 30,000 bot accounts constantly infiltrating social media with negative stories. Think about the money the NRA spends on disinformation campaigns to convince American citizens that owning guns is a good idea. Think about the money they spend on a regional level, in elections, to uncover dirt on Democrat politicians running for Congress.

 

It's also difficult to change something when you're being threatened and intimidated. In the South people with open carry licenses turn up at politicians offices with semi automatic rifles and threaten their lives just because they are pro-gun reform.

 

 

I don't understand, what exactly do you mean by capitalism? Almost all democratic countries can be more or less classified as capitalist.

[skend04]

Scary if it's true.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

Scary if it's true.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/more-americans-killed-guns-1968-all-u-s-wars-combined-n807156

 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Indeed, plus those figures for firearms related deaths are only over a span of 47 years. Imagine the figures in relation to the span of years used for deaths due to War. 

[SasaS]

Only 4.5k in a Revolutionary War? England must have gone pretty soft at the time.

[Jairzinho]

Only 4.5k in a Revolutionary War? England must have gone pretty soft at the time.

 

The Spanish-American war is more impressive in that it appears to have gone back in time.

[Rico1304]

The Spanish-American war is more impressive in that it appears to have gone back in time.

Spain?

[Rico1304]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/06/opinion/how-to-reduce-shootings.html

[magicrat]

Only 4.5k in a Revolutionary War? England must have gone pretty soft at the time.

 

Muskets would appear to be less effective than fully automatic weapons, Maybe that's why the founding Fathers decided that people should be allowed to own one, That and the fact there was no standing army in place to protect them at the time. 

[Scooby Dudek]

[lifetime fan]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0

[lifetime fan]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a9UFyNy-rw4

[SasaS]

Muskets would appear to be less effective than fully automatic weapons, Maybe that's why the founding Fathers decided that people should be allowed to own one, That and the fact there was no standing army in place to protect them at the time. 

 

Didn't Roland Emmerich kill at least as many Americans as that in The Patriot alone?

 

Although, looking at the list of his films, he seems to like killing a lot of Americans, he allows them to win in the end, but there is always a considerable devastation and human cost.

[Rotpeter]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/06/opinion/how-to-reduce-shootings.html

 

That's the kind of thinking it's going to take.

[Anubis]

Didn't Roland Emmerich kill at least as many Americans as that in The Patriot alone?

 

Although, looking at the list of his films, he seems to like killing a lot of Americans, he allows them to win in the end, but there is always a considerable devastation and human cost.

Sounds almost Presidential.

[dylstar]

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/more-americans-killed-guns-1968-all-u-s-wars-combined-n807156

 

SHARK ATTACKS AT RECORD HIGH

 

Australia: Lets put nets out to keep bathers safe

 

USA: Everybody get a shark to protect you from other sharks

[G Richards]

Some people are trying to make a big deal of the fact that the murderer was atheist.

 

I can see a complete shutdown of Rico and Stronts entering the country until we figure out what's going on.

 

 

Too right. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just kidding. Come and have a beer and watch the match on telly with me. And I won't even make you read the Bible. 

[Bjornebye]

Too right. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just kidding. Come and have a beer and watch the match on telly with me. And I won't even make you read the Bible. 

 

 

Yeah your clergy will love them pair disrupting your sermon 

 

[polymerpunkah]

Telling that the highest number of deaths in that graph is from a war they fought against each other.

[G Richards]

Out of rep but that’s ace Stig!