Transgender stuff - what's going on?

[Strontium]

The SNP wanted to allow males who identified as women to enter women's single sex spaces. The Supreme Court has established that under the law, only biological females can be regarded as women, and therefore such males can be legally excluded.

[Mook]

1 minute ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

I've not followed what the SNP has been up to, but trans rights campaigners have long been aware of the inadequacy of the Equality Act, which protects people who are transitioning from discrimination, but not people who have already transitioned.

 

 

 

They were trying pass legislation to say people who were born as men and then transitioned could be protected as women. Which they now can't because as per today's ruling, they are blokes.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

A decision which clarifies a fairly minor issue in British society. 

 

And, a decision which probably won't make most people overly happy. It'll probably lead to trans people still feeling that they're being persecuted and misgendered, which they don't want. And the people at the other end of this issue won't be happy as trans people will still exist, which most of them don't want.

[AngryofTuebrook]

11 minutes ago, Strontium said:

The SNP wanted to allow women to enter women's single sex spaces. The Supreme Court has established that under the Equality Act 2010 only cis females fall within the Act's definition of women, and therefore trans women are not protected from discrimination .

Fixed it.

[Jack the Sipper]

2 minutes ago, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

A decision which clarifies a fairly minor issue in British society. 

 

And, a decision which probably won't make most people overly happy. It'll probably lead to trans people still feeling that they're being persecuted and misgendered, which they don't want. And the people at the other end of this issue won't be happy as trans people will still exist, which moat or them don't want.

 

There's a pretty big gap in the middle, full of people that aren't rabid extremists about this one way or the other.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Cicters are doing it for themselves.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

2 minutes ago, Jack the Sipper said:

 

There's a pretty big gap in the middle, full of people that aren't rabid extremists about this one way or the other.

 

I know. That's why I highlighted people at both ends of the issue. And then mentioned that for most people it's a fairly minor issue to them.

 

But, thanks for pretty much posting exactly the same points that I did but in a slightly different way. 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

I can go the gym changing room again without seeing men ogling me.

[Section_31]

The whole issue has always been proper bonkers. Someone has either XX or XY chromosomes, end of, not liking that fact is just hard shit. I wish I looked like William Riker.

[Strontium]

29 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Fixed it.

 

How long are you going to keep dying on this hill? Trump as President obviously wasn't enough - will it take Farage as Prime Minister?

[AngryofTuebrook]

6 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

The whole issue has always been proper bonkers. Someone has either XX or XY chromosomes, end of, not liking that fact is just hard shit. I wish I looked like William Riker.

 

[AngryofTuebrook]

1 minute ago, Strontium said:

 

How long are you going to keep dying on this hill? Trump as President obviously wasn't enough - will it take Farage as Prime Minister?

The hill of correcting people who are wrong?  I was born a pendant and I'll die a pendant.  I've no idea what you think Trump and Farage have to do with this.

[Arniepie]

35 minutes ago, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

A decision which clarifies a fairly minor issue in British society. 

 

And, a decision which probably won't make most people overly happy. It'll probably lead to trans people still feeling that they're being persecuted and misgendered, which they don't want. And the people at the other end of this issue won't be happy as trans people will still exist, which most of them don't want.

The gammons seem particularly obsessed with men who wear a dress

 

meanwhile you can imagine the online comments relating to this

 

Welsh teenager jailed for attacking trans woman and sharing terrorist documents | Crime | The Guardian

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

5 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

The hill of correcting people who are wrong?  I was born a pendant and I'll die a pendant.  I've no idea what you think Trump and Farage have to do with this.

 

You should just feel mightily privileged and important as your opinions on a football forum seem to be able to determine who becomes Prime Minister and POTUS.

[Mook]

22 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

The hill of correcting people who are wrong?  I was born a pendant and I'll die a pendant.

 

I don't see anything wrong with Stront's post at the top of the page. It certainly goes along with today's court ruling.

[Strontium]

21 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

The hill of correcting people who are wrong?  I was born a pendant and I'll die a pendant.  I've no idea what you think Trump and Farage have to do with this.

 

The good news is that after nearly 400 pages of increasingly unhinged "debate" in this thread, the law of the land is that you were wrong and I was right.

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

The good news is that after nearly 400 pages of increasingly unhinged "debate" in this thread, the law of the land is that you were wrong and I was right.

Cant argue with that. Just like the law of the land on the Lucy Letby thread means I’m right and you’re wrong. 
 

Thanks! 

[Jack the Sipper]

1 hour ago, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

A decision which clarifies a fairly minor issue in British society. 

 

And, a decision which probably won't make most people overly happy. It'll probably lead to trans people still feeling that they're being persecuted and misgendered, which they don't want. And the people at the other end of this issue won't be happy as trans people will still exist, which most of them don't want.

 

1 hour ago, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

 

I know. That's why I highlighted people at both ends of the issue. And then mentioned that for most people it's a fairly minor issue to them.

 

But, thanks for pretty much posting exactly the same points that I did but in a slightly different way. 

 

Well, yeah, I responded to you saying that most people won't be overly happy. I doubt very that's the case.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

2 minutes ago, Jack the Sipper said:

 

 

Well, yeah, I responded to you saying that most people won't be overly happy. I doubt very that's the case.

 

You missed the bit saying that it's a fairly minor issue in British society - i.e. that most people won't be arsed about the decision. 

[Engineman Hicks]

1 hour ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Fixed it.

You are the forum’s very own Winston Smith. 

”Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped.”

 

[Engineman Hicks]

57 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

The gammons seem particularly obsessed with men who wear a dress

 

meanwhile you can imagine the online comments relating to this

 

Welsh teenager jailed for attacking trans woman and sharing terrorist documents | Crime | The Guardian

The irony is that by saying “men who wear a dress” you are being “transphobic” 

[Engineman Hicks]

1 hour ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

The hill of correcting people who are wrong?  I was born a pendant and I'll die a pendant.  I've no idea what you think Trump and Farage have to do with this.

I assume you mean pedant or are you making a joke ? 

[Section_31]

2 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

 

 

It's not though. Male and female is pretty universal in nature and entirely genetic.

[Jimmy Hills Chin]

2 hours ago, Section_31 said:

The whole issue has always been proper bonkers. Someone has either XX or XY chromosomes, end of, not liking that fact is just hard shit. I wish I looked like William Riker.

So do I baby!

[AngryofTuebrook]

2 hours ago, Mook said:

 

I don't see anything wrong with Stront's post at the top of the page. It certainly goes along with today's court ruling.

He's misrepresenting what today's ruling actually said.

 

2 hours ago, Strontium said:

 

The good news is that after nearly 400 pages of increasingly unhinged "debate" in this thread, the law of the land is that you were wrong and I was right.

You don't understand (or refuse to understand) the point of today's ruling.