Transgender stuff - what's going on?

[Rico1304]

4 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

I think if Badenoch was really pro-womens rights and equality in all it's forms she'd have fought for and defended it in all it's forms instead of focusing on the bits that play to her base and doubling down on the dog whistles to garner support for her bids for leadership.

 

Don't you?

You are looking at the wrong end of the telescope.  This is one of the biggest issues facing women now as it erases their entire class.  Yet you dismiss her (and anyone else) talking about this as dog whistling, gas lighting or any of the lefty bingo words (upset you didn’t use Overton Window tbh). There are hundreds of examples of men exploiting the law as it stands NOW, and she’s protecting women from men. 
 

Indont think that her job is to agree with every cause presented to her, no.  Her view is that the law already protects women. 
 

Years ago there was a campaigner who wanted all men indoors by (I think 11pm).  By not supporting that is she not doing her job as it would undoubtedly make women safer. 

[TD_LFC]

All it's forms doesn't mean agreeing with every idea (like curfews) it means showing even a passing interest in the brief dismissing the call for a pilot into menopause leave (amongst 12 other proposals) as lefty because, you know, it doesn't play to those white old fellas she want's support from in her party despite it's cross party support (including conservative and womens rights and equality committee chair Caroline Noakes who criticised the governments progress/speed on womens rights).

 

Has the legislation she keeps promising on conversion therapy come in yet or is she still flirting with the Miriam Cates' of the party for support by delaying it?

 

And again you're doing the thing you always do by conflating talk about one person in to a nebulous group as if it makes it easier for you to hide behind.

 

 

[Rico1304]

16 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

All it's forms doesn't mean agreeing with every idea (like curfews) it means showing even a passing interest in the brief dismissing the call for a pilot into menopause leave (amongst 12 other proposals) as lefty because, you know, it doesn't play to those white old fellas she want's support from in her party despite it's cross party support (including conservative and womens rights and equality committee chair Caroline Noakes who criticised the governments progress/speed on womens rights).

 

Has the legislation she keeps promising on conversion therapy come in yet or is she still flirting with the Miriam Cates' of the party for support by delaying it?

 

And again you're doing the thing you always do by conflating talk about one person in to a nebulous group as if it makes it easier for you to hide behind.

 

 

The conversion therapy legislation was changed as it would have prevented anything other than affirmation of trans identity.  Even psychologists wouldn’t have been able to say ‘are you sure?’  You know that the affirmation model is being withdrawn right across Europe as it’s transing away the gay.  Gay kids having life changing hormones and operations when over 80% of them would desist and generally turn out to be gay adults.  
 

What nebulous group now?  There are women’s groups and gay groups all over uniting against this nonsense. 
 

Most couldn’t give a fuck what these men want to do - but when it impinges on others they have the right to say ‘no’.  Women saying ‘no’ has infuriated men since time began. 

[cloggypop]

I wonder what Rico would pick as his specialist subject on Mastermind. 

[TD_LFC]

5 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

What nebulous group now?

 

The ones you want to throw up and hide behind instead of sticking to the individual in question because you think positioning yourself as some white knight for the whole of women kind insulates you.

 

We were talking about Badenoch, yesterday, earlier and now yet at every turn you try to turn that in to 'so you think all women should...' to try and obfuscate.

 

Here's to the next 3,000 posts

 

[Rico1304]

25 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

I wonder what Rico would pick as his specialist subject on Mastermind. 

Freeloading 

[Rico1304]

16 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

The ones you want to throw up and hide behind instead of sticking to the individual in question because you think positioning yourself as some white knight for the whole of women kind insulates you.

 

We were talking about Badenoch, yesterday, earlier and now yet at every turn you try to turn that in to 'so you think all women should...' to try and obfuscate.

 

Here's to the next 3,000 posts

 

Do I think she’s the best character or minister ever? No. Do I think she’s right on this ? Absolutely. 
 

You never seem to answer direct questions. But even the acknowledgment that there are issues puts you in the problematic category. I bet you’d never dare to say out loud that you think these problems exist.  
 

3000k posts and STILL people say ‘that can’t be true’ and then they check, and it is, and people like you hand wave and another TERF is born.  

[Skidfingers McGonical]

2 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Do I think she’s the best character or minister ever? No. Do I think she’s right on this ? Absolutely. 
 

You never seem to answer direct questions. But even the acknowledgment that there are issues puts you in the problematic category. I bet you’d never dare to say out loud that you think these problems exist.  
 

3000k posts and STILL people say ‘that can’t be true’ and then they check, and it is, and people like you hand wave and another TERF is born.  

That the new Johnny Mathis Christmas tune? 

[TheHowieLama]

1 minute ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

That the new Johnny Mathis Christmas tune? 

 

Terf's Up. 

 

Beach Boys remix.

[Riley Greenleaf]

2 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Freeloading 

[3 Stacks]

3 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

You are looking at the wrong end of the telescope.  This is one of the biggest issues facing women now as it erases their entire class.  Yet you dismiss her (and anyone else) talking about this as dog whistling, gas lighting or any of the lefty bingo words (upset you didn’t use Overton Window tbh). There are hundreds of examples of men exploiting the law as it stands NOW, and she’s protecting women from men. 
 

Indont think that her job is to agree with every cause presented to her, no.  Her view is that the law already protects women. 
 

Years ago there was a campaigner who wanted all men indoors by (I think 11pm).  By not supporting that is she not doing her job as it would undoubtedly make women safer. 

Really?

[Skidfingers McGonical]

25 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Really?

Your stalking skills run it a close second. 

[Rico1304]

27 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Really?

Yes, because you can opt into it.  
 

This job is for women only - I’m a woman

This space is for women only - I’m a woman

These toilets are for women only - I’m a woman. 

[3 Stacks]

14 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Yes, because you can opt into it.  
 

This job is for women only - I’m a woman

This space is for women only - I’m a woman

These toilets are for women only - I’m a woman. 

I think women in general would probably rank it low on the list of importance, but what do I know, I'm not a woman and I hate them, so.

[Rico1304]

15 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

I think women in general would probably rank it low on the list of importance, but what do I know, I'm not a woman and I hate them, so.

I bet you would. 
 

 

[Rico1304]

Go Jane!

 

https://x.com/bbc5live/status/1806689012175732756?s=46&t=wTmhxkVCGgzL1q3_vvfmTA

[Rico1304]

Glastonbury have opened their first ever lesbian space.  Now watch the clip and tell me what you can see is a bit weird about these lesbians. 
 

https://x.com/katebmwriting/status/1806819455759970646?s=46&t=wTmhxkVCGgzL1q3_vvfmTA

[Rico1304]

https://x.com/soniasodha/status/1806807676115947912?s=46&t=wTmhxkVCGgzL1q3_vvfmTA
 

More and more cases of women rejecting men in their changing rooms at work. 
 

I wonder who Unison would act for?  

[Carradona]

13 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Glastonbury have opened their first ever lesbian space.  Now watch the clip and tell me what you can see is a bit weird about these lesbians. 
 

https://x.com/katebmwriting/status/1806819455759970646?s=46&t=wTmhxkVCGgzL1q3_vvfmTA

More hate. 

 

It's a space for lesbians and their allies. Guess what, some leabians have male friends. 

[Rico1304]

9 hours ago, Carradona said:

More hate. 

 

It's a space for lesbians and their allies. Guess what, some leabians have male friends. 

Are you the same person complaining about women’s equality in the thread about the prison officer? Asking for a friend? 

[Carradona]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

Are you the same person complaining about women’s equality in the thread about the prison officer? Asking for a friend? 

No, you must be getting me confused with someone else. Which friend are you asking for, must be Stig?

 

Do you hate gay people or what exactly was the point you're trying to make about the post I quoted? 

[Rico1304]

1 hour ago, Carradona said:

No, you must be getting me confused with someone else. Which friend are you asking for, must be Stig?

 

Do you hate gay people or what exactly was the point you're trying to make about the post I quoted? 

I don’t hate anyone, apart from a lot of city fans. 
 

Yes, pretend you didn’t understand.  That always helps. 

[Rico1304]

1 hour ago, Carradona said:

No, you must be getting me confused with someone else. Which friend are you asking for, must be Stig?

 

Do you hate gay people or what exactly was the point you're trying to make about the post I quoted? 

Do you know what I think I made a mistake there.  I misunderstood what you wrote.  Apologies.  I’ll do the same in that thread too. 

[Carradona]

4 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

I don’t hate anyone, apart from a lot of city fans. 
 

Yes, pretend you didn’t understand.  That always helps. 

I honestly haven't got a clue what your post has to do with trans people. I think you've posted the wrong link or something. Or you're reaching for something that absolutely isn't there.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Starmer showing his contempt for women by, er, appointing women to ministerial posts.

Fortunately, the little ladies (bless 'em) have got men like Linehan to stand up for them.