Transgender stuff - what's going on?

[TheBitch]

 

 

[Rico1304]

It’s fascinating this stuff.  

 

Apparently 80% of transgender women don’t want any medical intervention.  

 

 

Edited November 30, 2018 by rico1304
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[Skidfingers McGonical]

2 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Yeah, he’s pretty popular at the moment. That said, he’s a million miles away from being as much of a regular as others. Even Abby Martin has been on more. 

And rightly so. She’s lovely when she’s angry. 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

1 hour ago, moof said:

 

No offence intended here moof, but you sort of prove the point RedShift is making. 

 

You have consistently misrepresented what Peterson has said many times. Fair enough you may not agree with him at all (I find him a fascinating listen and he talks a lot sense, I don’t agree with it all) but at least don’t twist what he is saying.

 

 

[Rico1304]

15 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

No offence intended here moof, but you sort of prove the point RedShift is making. 

 

You have consistently misrepresented what Peterson has said many times. Fair enough you may not agree with him at all (I find him a fascinating listen and he talks a lot sense, I don’t agree with it all) but at least don’t twist what he is saying.

 

 

It is funny to watch and funny to see some of the people traditionally on the left complaining about it.  

[Elite]

So what's a trans fat?

 

 

[Captain Turdseye]

I don’t even know what this Peterson fella’s voice sounds like. There’s enough shite on the internet as it is without getting sucked into stuff like this. 

[Rico1304]

8 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

I don’t even know what this Peterson fella’s voice sounds like. There’s enough shite on the internet as it is without getting sucked into stuff like this. 

Kermit. 

 

[Elite]

5 minutes ago, rico1304 said:

Kermit. 

 

He's non-binary is he not?

[Rico1304]

11 minutes ago, Elite said:

He's non-binary is he not?

He fucked a pig but who hasn’t? 

[Jairzinho]

www.theguardian.com%2Fscience%2F2018%2Ffeb%2F07%2Fhow-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest

 

Can't post as on my phone. Thought it was quite a good overview on the lobster fella.

[Pidge]

He's a businessman and little else.  He's capitalising on the chance to use his skillset to partake in the angry young man self-help industry.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

8 minutes ago, Pidge said:

He's a businessman and little else.  He's capitalising on the chance to use his skillset to partake in the angry young man self-help industry.

Nah, I feel you’re way off the mark there Pidge.

 

He’s a University professor who was initially challenging the status quo in the Canadian academic world on its forcing of gender neutral and other He’s an expert in his field and has been putting his lectures on YouTube way before he became the businessman you claim him to be.

 

Everybody who has tried to challenge him on his views has been made to look a fool because they totally misinterpret and misrepresent his views.

 

However he doesn’t help himself as he is very black or white with very little grey. Nothing he says is wrong about the “angry young man” group, it is all common sense just not the fluffy kind that a lot of self help generally stuff tends to be. 

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

12 minutes ago, Pidge said:

He's a businessman and little else.

I think that’s unfair and inaccurate. He’s certainly milking his new-found fame for every penny, but he clearly is more than that. You just need to take a brief look at his career to see that, having worked as an associate professor at Harvard for half a decade, a professor in Toronto, and a practicing clinical psychologist for almost his entire career. 

 

I’ve got no issue with people disagreeing with him and pulling his arguments apart. In fact, I encourage it. But it seems like people either want to call him stupid, evil, or a mixture of both. He’s a well credentialed, clearly intelligent man who seems willing to debate and talk about these things at length. If his arguments are so poor, or he’s just a snake oil salesmen, then it should be easy to rip his stuff to shreds. 

[Pidge]

He's selling books and tickets and building a brand.  I haven't called him evil, stupid or anything else, nor have I questioned his academic credentials.  However, I have very little interest in what he has to say, whenever I do look at it it's often riddled with conjecture that feels designed to appeal to his target market.  Little more than my intuitive perspective, but I just see him as another cynical act in a destructive industry.

 

Also Skids, the vast majority of self-help is just a matter of trying to frame common sense as a new kind of wisdom.

 

editediteditlastonehonest: I actually think he's refined the "alpha-dog dark triad" cod philosophy of recent years (that's made rape apologists and outright racists plenty of cash) into something that can pass off as having intellectual weight, but generally amounts to appealing to bias, incumbency or the same old mourning for the values of a phony yesteryear.

[Hades]

I think there was recently a revelation that a lot of people in the Intellectual Dark Web have admitted off-camera to being slightly dishonest and milking the current anti-SJW millieu to make a few bucks.

[Rico1304]

Listen to the first 5 mins of the JR podcast and he addresses most of the last 10 posts.  

[Lee909]

Where is the best place to start with the Peterson stuff. Was talking to my mum who been listening to him. Like others here she said she doesn't agree with everything but she likes a good deal of stuff he says and says he is misinterpreted a lot

 

Start with the Rogan shows or others? 

 

Im the same way with Rogan at times he's talks dribble and pisses me off. Other times he makes sense. The podcast on the whole can be great with the right guests and you do not get many podcast that get the range of guests and have the time frame to fully delve into points

[Hades]

This is a really good one, at least the first 40 minutes I've listened to. I agree with responsibility, but they really downplay the effects of capitalism. No condemnation of meat-eating and the responsibility of not destroying the planet. Definite right-wing bias but the psychological stuff is spot on.

 

 

[VladimirIlyich]

6 hours ago, Red Shift said:

Just acknowledging that Joe likes him on the show.

He must be funnier than Seth then. I mean,who isn't?

[Numero Veinticinco]

So, I’ve watched a fair amount of interviews and lectures from Peterson now, and I think I’m ready to make a judgement. I think he’s very intelligent, a significant intellectual thinker, somebody who makes every effort not to fall into the ideological or partisan constraints of having to espouse certain views, and I think his detractors lack evidence of him being transphobic, racists, etc. I respect his application of logic and reasoning. 

 

But it I still love moof more than any of you fuckers. So fuck Peterson. 

[cloggypop]

I reckon he's a blert sponsored by the Koch brothers. Each to their own though. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Is there any evidence at all that he is sponsored by the Koch brothers? 

[moof]

23 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Is there any evidence at all that he is sponsored by the Koch brothers? 

 

Saw this thread before from Peter Coffin. He’s been taking the Koch dollar his entire career (appearances on far far right Rebel Media, for example), constantly promotes Koch outlets and regurgitates Koch talking points. 

 

There’s a well established relationship. 

 

 

(Love you too, bbz)

[moof]

2 hours ago, Hades said:

This is a really good one, at least the first 40 minutes I've listened to. I agree with responsibility, but they really downplay the effects of capitalism. No condemnation of meat-eating and the responsibility of not destroying the planet. Definite right-wing bias but the psychological stuff is spot on.

 

 

Fucking hell, talking of Kochs. 

 

Hades, wtf bro