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18 minutes ago, Moo said:

No drama from my side.  You suggested I was giving away something that was not mine to give away, then said I already use bathrooms with men. So it seems like the perspective of the person speaking is important to you, which is fair enough. 

So if I said I wasn't a bloke would it make any difference to how you feel about my opinions/suggestions on this subject?

None at all.  If you are a woman and you’ve survived 15 yrs on here hats off to you.  

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@Rico1304 I don’t wanna get into an argument with you on this, and have left well alone in general, but I’d like to ask a 2 part question which is absolutely genuine and without hidden agenda, and would appreciate a response in that spirit.

 

When you refer to trans women as ‘blokes’, is that with intent to offend?

 

if not, why do you not think it is offensive to anyone?

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8 minutes ago, Bob Spunkmouse said:

@Rico1304 I don’t wanna get into an argument with you on this, and have left well alone in general, but I’d like to ask a 2 part question which is absolutely genuine and without hidden agenda, and would appreciate a response in that spirit.

 

When you refer to trans women as ‘blokes’, is that with intent to offend?

 

if not, why do you not think it is offensive to anyone?

Who am I offending?   If there are any trans people on here I would refer to them by their preferred pronouns. 
 

But M2F remain men no matter what pronouns they ask for.  There is a legal fiction around women with a GRC but they don’t magically become women. Sex is immutable. 
 

In the same spirit do you believe Trans Women are Women? And if so what is your definition of ‘woman’? 

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1 minute ago, Rico1304 said:

Who am I offending?   If there are any trans people on here I would refer to them by their preferred pronouns. 
 

But M2F remain men no matter what pronouns they ask for.  There is a legal fiction around women with a GRC but they don’t magically become women. Sex is immutable. 

You’ve not answered my question. If I refer to a black person using the n word amongst a group of white people, it’s still offensive and I know it.

 

im not making that comparison necessarily, I’m simply pointing out that you believing (without being able to be certain, as this is a public forum) there not to be any trans women here does noy

excuse whether it may offend someone.

 

so I’d like to ask the exact same question(s) again. That’ll be me done then.

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6 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Who am I offending?   If there are any trans people on here I would refer to them by their preferred pronouns. 
 

But M2F remain men no matter what pronouns they ask for.  There is a legal fiction around women with a GRC but they don’t magically become women. Sex is immutable. 
 

In the same spirit do you believe Trans Women are Women? And if so what is your definition of ‘woman’? 

You added the question in edit so I didn’t see it before. I personally know two trans women, and am absolutely happy to recognise them as trans women, as they happen to recognise themselves. Therefore I’d say the same generally to the rest of the worlds population of trans women, I reckon.

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12 minutes ago, Bob Spunkmouse said:

You’ve not answered my question. If I refer to a black person using the n word amongst a group of white people, it’s still offensive and I know it.

 

im not making that comparison necessarily, I’m simply pointing out that you believing (without being able to be certain, as this is a public forum) there not to be any trans women here does noy

excuse whether it may offend someone.

 

so I’d like to ask the exact same question(s) again. That’ll be me done then.

If you are worried about being offended on the GF then it may not be the right place for you. 
 

I’ve absolutely no idea why you brought the n word into it and then backed away so quickly. Although you are correct in that there is absolutely no similarity in the situation.  It’s crazy to think there is.  
 

They are men, pure and simple.  If that offends you I can’t help.  

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13 minutes ago, Bob Spunkmouse said:

You added the question in edit so I didn’t see it before. I personally know two trans women, and am absolutely happy to recognise them as trans women, as they happen to recognise themselves. Therefore I’d say the same generally to the rest of the worlds population of trans women, I reckon.

By not recognising them as ‘women’ you are offending a huge number of TW. You seem to be ok with that. 

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1 minute ago, Rico1304 said:

If you are worried about being offended on the GF then it may not be the right place for you. 
 

I’ve absolutely no idea why you brought the n word into it and then backed away so quickly. Although you are correct in that there is absolutely no similarity in the situation.  It’s crazy to think there is.  
 

They are men, pure and simple.  If that offends you I can’t help.  

You’ve not answered that time either. Whether or not I’m offended isn’t within the question. Whether “they” are reading your musings isn’t either. 
 

my question remains...

 

1. When you refer to trans women as ‘blokes’, is that with intent to offend? (Note I refer to the use of the term ‘blokes’ rather than men, which appears deliberate and is the reason for me asking the question)

 

2. if not, why do you not think it is offensive to anyone?

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3 minutes ago, Bob Spunkmouse said:

I doubt I am, honestly.

Mmm, why do you doubt that?  You aren’t following the mantra TWAW and that makes you a bigot. 

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4 minutes ago, Bob Spunkmouse said:

You’ve not answered that time either. Whether or not I’m offended isn’t within the question. Whether “they” are reading your musings isn’t either. 
 

my question remains...

 

1. When you refer to trans women as ‘blokes’, is that with intent to offend? (Note I refer to the use of the term ‘blokes’ rather than men, which appears deliberate and is the reason for me asking the question)

 

2. if not, why do you not think it is offensive to anyone?

I use blokes as thats  how I refer to men. I can use men if you want.  No intention to offend.  Just a noun. 
 

i don’t care if it’s offensive to anyone. It’s impossible to not offend anyone. 

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10 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I use blokes as thats  how I refer to men. I can use men if you want.  No intention to offend.  Just a noun. 
 

i don’t care if it’s offensive to anyone. It’s impossible to not offend anyone. 

 That’ll do. Ta.

 

I’m out.

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27 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Just been in a gender neutral toilet, didn’t rape anyone.

 

Strange as I assumed I would.

This time. 

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In January California allowed TW to move to women’s prisons.  An inmate is now pregnant.  
 

Things that will never happen #1436

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4 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Here’s a link to the referrals, it’s broken down by sex. 
 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHS_Gender_Identity_Development_Service

Cheers fella, but BBN was just making a jape on the GD initials being the same.

 

I know I haven't been recorded in many women, but only because there wasn't always a camera handy.

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Just now, General Dryness said:

Cheers fella, but BBN was just making a jape on the GD initials being the same.

 

I know I haven't been recorded in many women, but only because there wasn't always a camera handy.

Ha! 

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3 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

In January California allowed TW to move to women’s prisons.  An inmate is now pregnant.  
 

Things that will never happen #1436


On the list of things that will never happen then surely that’s lower down than #1436

 

Screws have been bonking inmates ever since women won the right to have their own prisons. 

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If you had a dick and a fanny would you try and put it in? That’s surely the most important thing we all need to ponder 

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23 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:


On the list of things that will never happen then surely that’s lower down than #1436

 

Screws have been bonking inmates ever since women won the right to have their own prisons. 

Of course they have. Men tend to take advantage of vulnerable women.  If we can’t trust the men supposed to be looking after them why would we trust criminals?  But I’m pretty sure this is the first time two inmates have managed it.  
 

Condoms are now routinely handed out.  Can’t think why.  

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16 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

If you had a dick and a fanny would you try and put it in? That’s surely the most important thing we all need to ponder 

If you've already tried shoving it in every other orafice you have, the answer is moot.

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57 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Of course they have. Men tend to take advantage of vulnerable women.  If we can’t trust the men supposed to be looking after them why would we trust criminals?  But I’m pretty sure this is the first time two inmates have managed it.  
 

Condoms are now routinely handed out.  Can’t think why.  


So you’re not disputing my #1436 point then. 
 

Fucking typical. 

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