Transgender stuff - what's going on?

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, chevettehs said:

The new advice follows a council report which said: "Trans boys and men and non-binary people may have periods", adding that "menstruation must be inclusive of all genders".

 

Girls who believe they are boys.

 

Not people born as a male, read every quote they give in that article and it's pretty clear what they mean.

 

And you know that yourself NV, you're more than capable of reading that and seeing what the quotes added together mean, rather than the one single line that can be used to provide a sensationalist headline.

I still think you’re missing this...

 

The report recommends that "language and learning about periods is inclusive of all genders

 

Trans campaigners talking about trans women having periods is quite a big thing. It’s clear they cannot as they don’t have wombs. You can’t say ‘all genders’ and then exclude, you know, some genders. People born Male, regardless of what they do to their body, or how they feel, cannot have periods, so leaving that open to interpretation is daft. 

[Chairman Meow]

"Learning about periods is inclusive of all genders"

 

Not all genders have periods, learning about them should be inclusive.

 

Not worth even trying to debate with you further as all you'll do is be more and more obtuse like you are on every subject.

 

You and I both know you are more than intelligent enough to read that article, see what is actually quoted and not twist it like the Telegraph did. But you won't, you'll twist and turn like a twisty turny thing to try and have an argument and I won't play any further as there is no point in doing so with you.

[Numero Veinticinco]

The fuck did I do or say to deserve that response? I just disagree, that’s all. I’ve read the article, I just see it a bit differently. 

[Rico1304]

This woman is a trans activist and part of mermaids. 

 

‘Huntley did some bad things but stooping to their level by misgendering just means the whole of society is dragged down to the gutter. Let's be better than that’ 

[Section_31]

I think people should be able to do what they want if it doesn't harm anyone else, but...

 

(1) children should not be permitted to have irreversible operations 

 

(2) people should be allowed their views on it without being called bigots, whether it's on toilet use or women's safety, sport or whatever.

 

(3) it shouldn't be a crime or any kind of punishable offence to call someone by their 'old name' or gender. It's a matter of manners, not criminality.

 

 

[moof]

9 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I think people should be able to do what they want if it doesn't harm anyone else, but...

 

(1) children should not be permitted to have irreversible operations 

 

(2) people should be allowed their views on it without being called bigots, whether it's on toilet use or women's safety, sport or whatever.

 

(3) it shouldn't be a crime or any kind of punishable offence to call someone by their 'old name' or gender. It's a matter of manners, not criminality.

 

 

I mean, obviously. Not that any of those points go against currrent conventions

 

 

Except for 3, if you do it on purpose to be a dickhead then you can get fucked. To the gulag 

[Strontium]

13 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

(3) it shouldn't be a crime or any kind of punishable offence to call someone by their 'old name' or gender. It's a matter of manners, not criminality.

 

Good news for the people who insist on calling George Osborne "Gideon". Although I'm sure they wouldn't be such hypocrites in the first place...

[moof]

Just now, Strontium Dog said:

 

Good news for the people who insist on calling George Osborne "Gideon". Although I'm sure they wouldn't be such hypocrites in the first place...

Oh my goodness...

[Hades]

16 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I think people should be able to do what they want if it doesn't harm anyone else, but...

 

(1) children should not be permitted to have irreversible operations 

 

 

 

Thoughts on circumcisions? 

[stringvest]

1 minute ago, Hades said:

Thoughts on circumcisions? 

I can’t see any drawbacks 

[Rico1304]

53 minutes ago, stringvest said:

I can’t see any drawbacks 

Someone turn the Internet off, Stringers has won it.  

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, stringvest said:

I can’t see any drawbacks 

 

No strings attached?

[Section_31]

2 hours ago, Hades said:

Thoughts on circumcisions? 

No skin off my nose. 

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

6 hours ago, Section_31 said:

I think people should be able to do what they want if it doesn't harm anyone else, but...

 

(1) children should not be permitted to have irreversible operations 

 

(2) people should be allowed their views on it without being called bigots, whether it's on toilet use or women's safety, sport or whatever.

 

(3) it shouldn't be a crime or any kind of punishable offence to call someone by their 'old name' or gender. It's a matter of manners, not criminality.

 

 

On the dead naming, this can be used as a real weapon. Having been in the position of managing someone transitioning, who was located in a different city. Phone calls can be difficult, with all the good will in the world, you pick up a phone to a familiar voice, during a busy period you can respond with the incorrect name. I was fortunate in that the person I was managing was pretty understanding with regards this, hopefully, as I was supportive of them through the process. 

The person losing their shit in that shop, with all the it’s ma’am shit, well that could be a more difficult proposition.

[VladimirIlyich]

6 hours ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Good news for the people who insist on calling George Osborne "Gideon". Although I'm sure they wouldn't be such hypocrites in the first place...

I thought that was his birth name? Not sure it has much in common with this debate though.

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I thought that was his birth name? Not sure it has much in common with this debate though.

 

Yes, all deadnames are birth names. Do keep up.

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

4 hours ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Yes, all deadnames are birth names. Do keep up.

not necessarily, meet bob who changed his name to Pete, before transitioning to Roberta.

 

Pete's a dead name as much as bob, and was not a birth name. calling Roberta, bob or Pete could get you in shit. 

[Section_31]

6 hours ago, Arthur Friedenreich said:

not necessarily, meet bob who changed his name to Pete, before transitioning to Roberta.

 

Pete's a dead name as much as bob, and was not a birth name. calling Roberta, bob or Pete could get you in shit. 

Fuck. Where are my Isle of Man tickets. Stop this train I wanna get off.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

My mum told me she was thinking of naming me Ezekiel, but caved and went with something boring. I've always secretly held it against her.

[VladimirIlyich]

12 hours ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Yes, all deadnames are birth names. Do keep up.

So he officially and legally changed it to George to avoid it looking too posh? Can't fathom why he'd get stick. His mate Alexander Johnson should stick to Alex rather than Boris too.

[Rico1304]

My mate had decided to go for it over the last few weeks.  He’s Pippa now, takes some bollocks (forgive the pun) as he’s a builder and all his mates are rough arse cunts. 

 

He still plays plays darts for the pub and went on the end of year do last night. No one really gave a shit as they’ve known he wanted to do it for years.  

[TheHowieLama]

Does he get to bid for work as a Female Owned company now?

[moof]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

[TheHowieLama]

Or, if he really wanted to be seen as a woman he would lower his pay by 20 or 30%

[moof]

“I’m not a racist, I’ve got loads of black mates”