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Like many others I really want to see something from him but as the game wore on last night he just faded. It didn't help Naby that the second he went off his replacement was so dynamic and we looked a different team attacking wise.

 

I don't think he will stay beyond the summer.

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His miss vs Norwich epitomizes him. Something is missing. There’s quality but no results, no intensity, no consistency. He also seems shy . 

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His injury record is most at fault than any lack of ability or 'courage'. He's constantly starting over, gets little chance to build up any rhythm and by the time he does he tweaks a muscle and is then out again for several weeks. It's frustrating as he's shown ability but if this is going to keep on happening then the club likely have to let him move on. Possibly still as the only player not to have lost a league game he's started in.

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Not every signing can work out as originally conceived, too many variables at play. If Naby stays and we keep just hoping things click, we don’t buy someone else in his position who may slot in and perform more consistently than he’s been able to.

 

Always been the case for me that a second full season without it all coming together would be the time to cut our losses. The risk of it just continuing year on year becomes too great.
 

Time is fast running out.

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On 07/01/2020 at 16:42, rb14 said:

120k a week? One hundred and twenty fucking grand a week? Fuck me, for sitting on a bed being massaged? Poor fucker. I had to give some masseur 120 knicker to GET massaged in Bangkok and what I had to lie on could only be called a "bed" in the loosest possible sense. 

 

No player would sign for me. "Here you go, you get 500 knicker a week when you're not fit to play or you come off injured - unless there's one of the four B's. Bruise, Blood, Bone or Brain. And it's 250 knicker if you play - or train - shite. Regular players can have loads, no problemmo. League and cup win bonuses on top. Wages will be forfeit if you don't stand in front of the kop and applaud their support or take their criticism. Now, take it or fuckoff."

 

Thank you for your application , unfortunately we have decided to go in a different direction.

 

Please accept our best wishes for your future.

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8 hours ago, skaro said:

 

Klopp will keep the faith in him.

 

 

Jurgen saw what we saw.  Didn’t meet the minimum requirement of commitment and intensity for a Klopp midfielder . As someone said the Gini for Holland plays differently than Gini for LFC. He gets it , does what the coach wants and adapts his game. Our front three can score , create and bamboozle with the ball , it is our midfielders job to win possession and get it to them in order for them to to their thing very simple. Ox did fine but I would have Jones ahead of Naby now. If we win league need to give this lad a run in the team to see if he can perform the required tasks of our midfielders in the future. 

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I say keep him - if we want to really have class squad depth then he is ideal - a player with quality who won't play every week, but offers very good level back up, can come in and do a job - his injury record is a concern but for my money having him around playing 20-25 games a season across all comps/being a sub is about where he is at and we could do a lot worse than have a player of his ability filling a squad place like that.

 

Question is i suppose is will he be happy with that.

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8 minutes ago, skend04 said:

His injury record is most at fault than any lack of ability or 'courage'. He's constantly starting over, gets little chance to build up any rhythm and by the time he does he tweaks a muscle and is then out again for several weeks. It's frustrating as he's shown ability but if this is going to keep on happening then the club likely have to let him move on. Possibly still as the only player not to have lost a league game he's started in.

Shows how stats can be skewed because I can safely say although he started last night ( and kept his run going) he made zero contribution to us winning the game.

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32 minutes ago, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

Not every signing can work out as originally conceived, too many variables at play. If Naby stays and we keep just hoping things click, we don’t buy someone else in his position who may slot in and perform more consistently than he’s been able to.

 

Always been the case for me that a second full season without it all coming together would be the time to cut our losses. The risk of it just continuing year on year becomes too great.
 

Time is fast running out.

Timid

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33 minutes ago, clockspeed said:

Jurgen saw what we saw.  Didn’t meet the minimum requirement of commitment and intensity for a Klopp midfielder . As someone said the Gini for Holland plays differently than Gini for LFC. He gets it , does what the coach wants and adapts his game. Our front three can score , create and bamboozle with the ball , it is our midfielders job to win possession and get it to them in order for them to to their thing very simple. Ox did fine but I would have Jones ahead of Naby now. If we win league need to give this lad a run in the team to see if he can perform the required tasks of our midfielders in the future. 

 

Sure, Klopp saw what we see.

Doesn't mean he thinks what we think though.

 

We'll see.

 

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48 minutes ago, an tha said:

Question is i suppose is will he be happy with that.

Well he should be overjoyed with that given his performances over the last few seasons. Strangely enough, he does seem to play ok in certain games, in the Barca 1st leg last year he looked like the best player on the pitch until that rat Rakitic tackled him from behind. Having said that he was only on the pitch for 25 mins or so... he seems to start brightly and then gets progressively worse.

 

I can't see many takers for him at minute...maybe Leipzig would have him back...perhaps as part of a Werner deal. In the end I think Klopp is a fan and will persist with him...if he is to improve, he has the best manager in the world to help him do so.

 

 

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He's too slow and not powerful enough for this league. It's that simple. If you're going to be that small you have to be quick in the premier league or at least strong. He's neither.

 

He knows it too and it forces him to take up positions where he doesn't get exposed, much to the detriment of the team. He should have been hooked at half time. His lack of effort or inability to sprint back for their 2nd goal was shocking. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, clockspeed said:

Jurgen saw what we saw.  Didn’t meet the minimum requirement of commitment and intensity for a Klopp midfielder . As someone said the Gini for Holland plays differently than Gini for LFC. He gets it , does what the coach wants and adapts his game. Our front three can score , create and bamboozle with the ball , it is our midfielders job to win possession and get it to them in order for them to to their thing very simple. Ox did fine but I would have Jones ahead of Naby now. If we win league need to give this lad a run in the team to see if he can perform the required tasks of our midfielders in the future. 

Statistically, Keita does this about as well as any midfielder in the world. Winning it and passing it forward through the lines are his best skills, along with dribbling. The problem is that he has inconsistency issues stemming from the injuries and it always seems like the other midfielders are trying harder than he is. 

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7 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Statistically, Keita does this about as well as any midfielder in the world. Winning it and passing it forward through the lines are his best skills, along with dribbling. The problem is that he has inconsistency issues stemming from the injuries and it always seems like the other midfielders are trying harder than he is. 

Can you show these statistics?

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I'm firmly in the let's wait another season clan, it's not like we paid a fortune for the lad and he is prepared to be a squad player which you need. 

When we start with him and Wijnaldum in M/F it just doesn't work as Nabby gets pushed out of his favourite role which Wij plays, left of M/F and drifting in. Let's hope the lad comes good, some players just need a lot longer to adapt, especially when we have a squad as good as we have at the moment. 

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1 hour ago, sir roger said:

Thank you for your application , unfortunately we have decided to go in a different direction.

 

Please accept our best wishes for your future.

Is it because I is gay? 

 

I'm loving all this "oh he just needs a run of games" or "to stay injury free" or whatever else bollocks excuse. There are a trillion players in our squad who will work their tits off and run Milly-esque through paralysis and amputation to get into our team whilst this no-mark breaks a nail in a pre-match warm-up and is out for twelvety decades. 

 

To me this is on Klopp. I've no problems with signing someone that doesn't work out. But persevering with him for so long, leaving good people out whilst he gets put on the TEAM SHEET (really?) reflects poorly. 

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11 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

I'm firmly in the let's wait another season clan, it's not like we paid a fortune for the lad and he is prepared to be a squad player which you need. 

When we start with him and Wijnaldum in M/F it just doesn't work as Nabby gets pushed out of his favourite role which Wij plays, left of M/F and drifting in. Let's hope the lad comes good, some players just need a lot longer to adapt, especially when we have a squad as good as we have at the moment. 

He was a pretty penny, at £60m. If he stays I’m not going to cry about it, I thought he was unbelievable in Germany, but it’s been two seasons now. 

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