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22 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

In 06 there were maybe 9 top level players, then a few good ones, then a bunch of dross. The fact that Chelsea and United each had a few English players doesn't change that. In fact when you think that Us, Chelsea, Arsenal and United all appeared in the final in those couple of years, thirteen players seems like very few.

 

The Golden Generation had one player worthy of being included in the Tournament Team tells you how alot about their performance and how they stacked up against other players in the world at the time.

I couldn’t care less about England, but in the mid 00s they had seven or eight world class players plus half a dozen or so very, very good players. 

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England had great players during that time period, but unfortunately they pretty much all played in similar positions. Great attacking midfielders and centre backs. Good strikers and full backs. But then, no wingers, no defensive midfielders and mediocre keepers. For it to have worked out, they would have had to play a narrow formation with very attacking full backs but the tendency at the time wasn't at all to play like that.

 

Something like: 4-3-1-2 with Beckham at right back and Carrick or Hargreaves in holding midfield, maybe.

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On 05/02/2020 at 02:27, Alex_K said:

"Were they really golden at all?". Err .. with 9 players routinely playing Champions League semis & finals as the spine of their respective teams year in year out, yes. As individuals, the 00s had some sublime English players.

Alongside many overseas players who also played in the CL with them. England were above average,little more,which was probably equal to the quarter final stages they usually reached.

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After Hoddle England just had shit, overrated or past it managers who basically picked the best 11 players according to the London press and fashioned them into a 442.  They picked players out of form consistently and let older players linger on.  The funniest one was Capello.  The wankfest when he got the job was hilarious.  He came in and basically did the same shit all the other managers did.

 

Gerrard was a wrecking machine in midfield but ended up getting wasted because the manager had to pick the blue eyed boy fat goalhanger who couldn’t play in a 2 man midfield.

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30 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

The 1996 England team were  better than the 1998 and 2002 vintages.

 

Yup but the main point overall is there was always better sides around.   Now as many as there is nowadays compared to their pathetic squad of over rated cunts but enough to make sure they won fuck all, thankfully

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On 05/02/2020 at 11:18, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

I saw Phil Thompson do 100 “ keepy uppies “ in Tesco in Broadway in the late 70’s early 80’s. Why does this matter you ask? Because Tesco burnt down not long afterwards so Thommo and Tesco we’re both on fire for a time. And that proves England are better when they play 433.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

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14 hours ago, cloggypop said:

Big Virg is leading a boycott against Johan Derkson who is a host on Veronica and a massive racist cunt. All the national players are with him. 

 

https://nltimes.nl/2020/06/19/top-dutch-footballers-boycot-tv-show-hosts-racist-comments

 

I've always hated the stereotypically Dutch looking blert

 

johan-derksen-plaatst-kinderhek-op-overl

 

 

The quip about the adverts being way too long was a good one if not surrounded by racist comments and a history of being a racist.

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14 hours ago, cloggypop said:

Big Virg is leading a boycott against Johan Derkson who is a host on Veronica and a massive racist cunt. All the national players are with him. 

 

https://nltimes.nl/2020/06/19/top-dutch-footballers-boycot-tv-show-hosts-racist-comments

 

I've always hated the stereotypically Dutch looking blert

 

johan-derksen-plaatst-kinderhek-op-overl

 

 

 

Good on him.

 

He's a natural leader, as well. 

 

If he speaks up, people will follow.

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