May calls General Election on 8 June

[Vincent Vega]

Or kill them.

 

This has probably been discussed at upper levels of the Tories, imagine the savings that could be made in the NHS and on pensions if we could kill off the elderly unlucky enough to be ill and those without huge private pensions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*This is a joke Rico and Stronts before you go off on one.

[Plev]

They are scum, though. My blood fucking boils every time I see one of the cunts buying the S*n or Daily Mail.

Made me laugh this, I'm exactly the same. There's been a few times I've been in the queue behind one, and I'm literally biting my tongue not to say something.

[Section_31]

As terrible as it sounds, there's a point when you have to say that this country deserves all it's get when you have turkeys queing in their droves to vote for Christmas. I don't know if anybody's ever checked out John Harris' videos on YouTube, but they're well worth a watch. Anyway, in one of his more recent ones filmed in rural Lancashire before the local elections, he was chatting to a bloke on regular medication who was moaning about having to pay £12 a pop to get a taxi to the nearest chemist to pick up his prescription as the Tories had cut the bus route into that particular town. Harris asked the fella later in the video who was going to vote for in the GE and he went, "Theresa May because I don't like Jeremy Corbyn."

 

I can't even imagine how many times over such a thought process must be replicated across the country; people lamenting the state of the NHS, or pensioners moaning about potential means testing for winter fuel, yet jigging their way to the polling booth to put their cross beside a strong and stable candidate.

 

Not terrible at all, it's true. All you can do is do your bit. To be honest if people had honestly held opinions and favoured the Tories I wouldn't mind, but outside of this thread I rarely if ever hear any informed social or political opinions that aren't regurgitated shite. 'they're all the same', 'she seems a strong  leader' 'we need to live within our means' 'scroungers' etc.

 

I can respect people with a different opinion, I can't respect people who sleepwalk into something because they're too lazy or stupid to form one. Fuck'em.

[Pureblood]

As terrible as it sounds, there's a point when you have to say that this country deserves all it's get when you have turkeys queing in their droves to vote for Christmas. I don't know if anybody's ever checked out John Harris' videos on YouTube, but they're well worth a watch. Anyway, in one of his more recent ones filmed in rural Lancashire before the local elections, he was chatting to a bloke on regular medication who was moaning about having to pay £12 a pop to get a taxi to the nearest chemist to pick up his prescription as the Tories had cut the bus route into that particular town. Harris asked the fella later in the video who was going to vote for in the GE and he went, "Theresa May because I don't like Jeremy Corbyn."

 

I can't even imagine how many times over such a thought process must be replicated across the country; people lamenting the state of the NHS, or pensioners moaning about potential means testing for winter fuel, yet jigging their way to the polling booth to put their cross beside a strong and stable candidate.

 

Hatred of dem foreigners trumps everything.  If Corbyn wins we are on the verge of Sharia law.

[Pureblood]

Made me laugh this, I'm exactly the same. There's been a few times I've been in the queue behind one, and I'm literally biting my tongue not to say something.

 

We both need to grow a pair, speak up and film the response.  We'll become a youtube sensation.  Plev & TK Go Wild.

[magicrat]

Not terrible at all, it's true. All you can do is do your bit. To be honest if people had honestly held opinions and favoured the Tories I wouldn't mind, but outside of this thread I rarely if ever hear any informed social or political opinions that aren't regurgitated shite. 'they're all the same', 'she seems a strong  leader' 'we need to live within our means' 'scroungers' etc.

 

I can respect people with a different opinion, I can't respect people who sleepwalk into something because they're too lazy or stupid to form one. Fuck'em.

 

True to a point but I wish Labour would hammer home the NHS more. The Tories are planning insurance style reforms for large areas of healthcare and have been in discussion for some time with Underwriters ,  Their raid on the assets of the elderly and infirm, whilst possibly justified in a fair and progressive "healthcare tax* is being done by stealth and will represent a massive change for millions .

We are one election away from the privatisation of a significant part of the NHS yet its not being said or reported,  The NHS does matter to the majority of even the most politically brain dead and this strong leader bullshit would count for little if they thought their homes would be sold off if they got sick and their dependants booted out, Also being forced to buy expensive insurance ( which would be taxed by the Tories of course ) might open a few eyes. In summary it is depressing as you say but Labour should really be getting back to their key message on health just as the Tories are now solely playing the Brexit card.  The NHS will trump Brexit if played well

[Jairzinho]

This has probably been discussed at upper levels of the Tories, imagine the savings that could be made in the NHS and on pensions if we could kill off the elderly unlucky enough to be ill and those without huge private pensions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*This is a joke Rico and Stronts before you go off on one.

 

I'd imagine the only thing stopping them from formulating a plan is the fact they all vote Tory.

[Rico1304]

I can see VV is joking, I'm not sure about some of the others. Apparently being on the left means you have more empathy...

[Plev]

I can see VV is joking, I'm not sure about some of the others. Apparently being on the left means you have more empathy...

Is that aimed at me?

[Rico1304]

Is that aimed at me?

No, I've no idea who you are.

[Pureblood]

No, I've no idea who you are.

 

Hey, this lacks empathy.

[Denny Crane]

True to a point but I wish Labour would hammer home the NHS more.

My youngest sister (21) went canvassing in two areas. When she had her training the NHS was emphasised with numbers and stuff. The people knocking doors will definitely be highlighting it as a huge priority.

[Plev]

No, I've no idea who you are.

Just seems strange that you're using the same terminology I used yesterday when discussing your household budget.

 

If not I apologise. Now go and find your own posh words stop using mine!

[FieldingMellish]

https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/794997724999544832/photo/1

 

Is this legit?

[Rico1304]

Just seems strange that you're using the same terminology I used yesterday when discussing your household budget.

 

If not I apologise. Now go and find your own posh words stop using mine!

Right, that was you! I'm not accusing you of lacking empathy I'm pointing out there seems to be a startling lack of empathy shown by the left supporters on here. You're either on board or you're wrong and deserve well, death. Ironic as the left seem to claim they want the best for everyone (that believe the same as them).

[Strontium]

Yes no way they'd compromise they're principles and renege on a pledge for 'some' power.

Glad you've seen sense on the matter.

[Strontium]

Well you might want to have a word with the stupid balloon that's the leader of your party. He's said he will go into a coalition with the Tories.

No he hasn't.

[Lee909]

https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/794997724999544832/photo/1

 

Is this legit?

Yes

They had strong links and claimed he was a good strong leader

[Pureblood]

Right, that was you! I'm not accusing you of lacking empathy I'm pointing out there seems to be a startling lack of empathy shown by the left supporters on here. You're either on board or you're wrong and deserve well, death. Ironic as the left seem to claim they want the best for everyone (that believe the same as them).

 

Troll Hard 2: Troll Harder

 

Now I have a lap top.  Ho, ho, ho.

[FieldingMellish]

Yes

They had strong links and claimed he was a good strong leader

 

Right.  Strong and stable?

[Plev]

Right, that was you! I'm not accusing you of lacking empathy I'm pointing out there seems to be a startling lack of empathy shown by the left supporters on here. You're either on board or you're wrong and deserve well, death. Ironic as the left seem to claim they want the best for everyone (that believe the same as them).

To be fair I don't think anyone literally wants to kill old Daily Mail readers, I'd like to think it's only in jest.

[moof]

Corbz to debate on BBC one tonight. I think it'll be a good move, showing up May for the shithouse she is.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Can't blame the son for the sins of the father although the latest viscount rothmere is a massive cunt in his own right.

[Chairman Meow]

Or kill them.

 

Yet another left winger out to see Rico out of a job.

[Lee909]

https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/794997724999544832/photo/1

 

Is this legit?

imagine there are very few people on all sides of the political spectrum in the UK that do not support Ed Miliband in his fight against The Daily Mail’s vicious smear campaign. Miliband took the rather unprecedented step for a politician when he decided to take on the Daily Mail directly. The hate rag, that apparently has no issue hounding vulnerable people to suicide aimed their most recent attack at the Labour leader’s late father; the revered Marxist academic Ralph Miliband. The Mail wrote:

 

“The man who hated Britain: Red Ed’s pledge to bring back socialism is a homage to his Marxist father. So what did Miliband Snr really believe in? The answer should disturb everyone who loves this country.”

 

– The entire piece surrounds a quote from Miliband Snr’s diary from the age of 17, in which he refers to Brits as ‘rabid Nationalists’. The entire piece asserting that the Labour leader’s father ‘hated Britain’ rests on that one quote. It is the mark of a paper that has no reasonable argument to make, and so just attacks, just hounds, and just aims to hurt lives. This is how the Daily Mail operates. It exists not to inform, but to injure. Not to progress debate, but to mislead and misrepresent. They do however present one aspect of the story, that they predictably quickly gloss over, but it is worth expanding on. The quote from the piece in question is:

 

“Ralph Miliband then served three years in the Royal Navy…”

 

– This is a particularly important quote, because whilst the father of Ed Miliband was fighting the Nazis by manning a destroyer during the heroic Normandy landings, the great-grandfather of the owner of the British-loving Daily Mail was back in the safety of Britain, supporting Hitler.

 

In fact as early as 1926, the Mail was known throughout Europe as a Fascist publication. In that year, Benito Mussolini wrote to the new Chief Correspondent at the Mail, G. Ward Price:

 

“My dear Price, I am glad you have become a director of the Daily Mail, and I am sure that your very popular and widely circulated newspaper will continue to be a sincere friend of fascist Italy. With best wishes and greetings, Mussolini.

 

A few years after a delighted Mussolini congratulated the Mail’s new Chief Correspondent on his position on the Fascist supporting paper, the proprietor of The Daily Mail, Harold Harmsworth, 1st Viscount Rothermere in 1933 took that support one step further:

 

“I urge all British young men and women to study closely the progress of the Nazi regime in Germany. They must not be misled by the misrepresentations of its opponents. The most spiteful detractors of the Nazis are to be found in precisely the same sections of the British public and press as are most vehement in their praises of the Soviet regime in Russia. They have started a clamorous campaign of denunciation against what they call “Nazi atrocities” which, as anyone who visits Germany quickly discovers for himself, consists merely of a few isolated acts of violence such as are inevitable among a nation half as big again as ours, but which have been generalized, multiplied and exaggerated to give the impression that Nazi rule is a bloodthirsty tyranny.”

 

– This was in the same year the Nazis implemented the Jewish boycott, leading to state managed harassment, beatings, and forced removals of Jews by Nazis. Less than a year later, the Nazis would engage in what is commonly referred to as the “night of the long knives”, in which political critics of the regime were brutally murdered. Lord Rothermere believed at this point that the Nazis bloodthirsty tyranny was being misrepresented.

 

In 1934, The Daily Mail began openly supporting the blackshirts; The British Union of Fascists, through its leader Oswald Mosley (himself heavily influenced by Mussolini, whom he met earlier in the decade). In 1934, the Mail wrote that the British Union of Fascists were:

 

“…a well organised party of the right ready to take over responsibility for national affairs with the same directness of purpose and energy of method as Hitler and Mussolini have displayed”.

 

– This makes the “rapid nationalists” quote of Ralph Miliband seem completely uncontroversial. The Daily Mail openly supporting the methods and purpose of Hitler and Mussolini, for the sake of Fascism in Britain.

 

In the 1934, Harold Harmsworth, 1st Viscount Rothermere, and owner of The Daily Mail flew to Germany, and met with Adolf Hitler. Here are the happy couple:

 

 

– This is at a time when Daily Mail editorials were used as propaganda, by the Nazis.

 

In 1938, the Nazi owner of the Fascist-supporting, anti-British Daily Mail sent a telegram to Hitler to announce his support for the Nazi annexation of the Sudetenland. In it, Rothermere wrote:

 

“My dear Fuhrer everyone in England is profoundly moved by the bloodless solution to the Czechoslovakian problem. People not so much concerned with territorial readjustment as with dread of another war with its accompanying bloodbath. Frederick the Great was a great popular figure. I salute your excellency’s star which rises higher and higher.”

 

– Rothermere was fully supporting an apparent Nazi (not German) right to empire in Europe. The annexation of Sudetenland lead to its Jewish inhabitants rounded up and thrown into concentration camps, alongside any left leaning opposition in the territories. A month after Rothermere sent his telegram of support for the “bloodless solution”, Sudetenland and the rest of the Nazi empire experienced the truly horrific night of broken glass, in which 91 Jews were murdered, Jewish homes and businesses destroyed, and 30,000 Jewish men, women and children rounded up like animals and thrown into concentration camps.

 

A letter from Rothermere in 1939 (six years into Nazi control of Germany, and thousands of political murders later) congratulated Hitler on his success in Prague, and urged him to move on to Romania. Rothermere had befriended and was paying a Nazi spy in Britain – Stephanie von Hohenlohe – to further his contacts in Nazi Germany, and pass correspondence between himself and the regime. The brutality of the regime at this late point was obvious. Rothermere and the Mail turned a blind eye to it.

 

So, when you hear the Daily Mail insist that it is relevant to point to brief notes from the mid-20th Century childhood of the father of a political leader in the 21st Century as proof of his “hate” for Britain, and as an attack on his son today… we must keep in mind that during the same period of time, their paper and its owner (the great-grandfather of its current owner) were hoping British troops would fail (including the bravery of Ralph Miliband), and openly praying for a Nazi victory, and dictatorial Fascism across Europe and Britain.