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Chase for the top 4

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The race for fourth this year is like three old lads crawling through a mile long sewer after taking a tab of acid each.   What a ridiculously easy title it was for Chelsea.

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He'll throw a box of Nivea products onto the changing room table. 'If you played enough games this season, take some moisturiser.'

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Manchester City and Liverpool could face winner-takes-all playoff for the Champions League

The two teams are level on points and goal difference with just four matches remaining

Ally McGregor

Manchester City and Liverpool face the prospect of a winner-takes-all Champions League playoff on neutral ground at the end of the season.

City's draw at Middlesbrough on Sunday means that they are now level on points with the Reds, but also on goal difference.

While Jurgen Klopp's men would currently edge out City on goals scored, it is Pep Guardiola's side who have the easier run-in and will be looking to make up those valuable five goals.

Should they be finish the season level on points, goal difference and goals scored then the Premier League rules state that "they shall be deemed to occupy the same position in the table."

However, if the two are in fourth and fifth - fighting it out for the Champions League - then they must be split.

Indeed, even if one finishes third and the other in fourth then there would need to be clarity on who faces a Champions League playoff in August and who enters directly into the group stage.

Here, Premier League rule C.17 comes into effect.

"If at the end of the season either the league champions of the clubs to be relegated or the question of qualification for other competitions cannot be determined because two or more clubs are equals on points, goal difference and goals scored, the clubs concerned shall play off one or more deciding league matches on neutral ground, the format, timing and venue of which shall be determined by the board."

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-and-liverpoo-playoff-champions-league-premier-league-a7710636.html

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It's mad to think that, with just 4 games left, we could very realistically finish anywhere between 3rd and 6th.  Actually, we could go into the last game of the season in that situation.

 

The mad thing is the way this season will be viewed as an abject failure if we finish 6th, but reasonably successful if we finish 3rd.

 

Fuck all room for error.

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Manchester City and Liverpool could face winner-takes-all playoff for the Champions League

 

The two teams are level on points and goal difference with just four matches remaining

 

Ally McGregor

 

Manchester City and Liverpool face the prospect of a winner-takes-all Champions League playoff on neutral ground at the end of the season.

 

City's draw at Middlesbrough on Sunday means that they are now level on points with the Reds, but also on goal difference.

 

While Jurgen Klopp's men would currently edge out City on goals scored, it is Pep Guardiola's side who have the easier run-in and will be looking to make up those valuable five goals.

 

Should they be finish the season level on points, goal difference and goals scored then the Premier League rules state that "they shall be deemed to occupy the same position in the table."

 

However, if the two are in fourth and fifth - fighting it out for the Champions League - then they must be split.

 

Indeed, even if one finishes third and the other in fourth then there would need to be clarity on who faces a Champions League playoff in August and who enters directly into the group stage.

 

Here, Premier League rule C.17 comes into effect.

 

"If at the end of the season either the league champions of the clubs to be relegated or the question of qualification for other competitions cannot be determined because two or more clubs are equals on points, goal difference and goals scored, the clubs concerned shall play off one or more deciding league matches on neutral ground, the format, timing and venue of which shall be determined by the board."

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-and-liverpoo-playoff-champions-league-premier-league-a7710636.html

Erm... Could we arrange that play-off for Wednesday 24th May in Sydney?

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Manchester City and Liverpool could face winner-takes-all playoff for the Champions League

The two teams are level on points and goal difference with just four matches remaining

Ally McGregor

Manchester City and Liverpool face the prospect of a winner-takes-all Champions League playoff on neutral ground at the end of the season.

City's draw at Middlesbrough on Sunday means that they are now level on points with the Reds, but also on goal difference.

While Jurgen Klopp's men would currently edge out City on goals scored, it is Pep Guardiola's side who have the easier run-in and will be looking to make up those valuable five goals.

Should they be finish the season level on points, goal difference and goals scored then the Premier League rules state that "they shall be deemed to occupy the same position in the table."

However, if the two are in fourth and fifth - fighting it out for the Champions League - then they must be split.

Indeed, even if one finishes third and the other in fourth then there would need to be clarity on who faces a Champions League playoff in August and who enters directly into the group stage.

Here, Premier League rule C.17 comes into effect.

"If at the end of the season either the league champions of the clubs to be relegated or the question of qualification for other competitions cannot be determined because two or more clubs are equals on points, goal difference and goals scored, the clubs concerned shall play off one or more deciding league matches on neutral ground, the format, timing and venue of which shall be determined by the board."

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/manchester-city-and-liverpoo-playoff-champions-league-premier-league-a7710636.html

Can I suggest we go on "head to head".

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Caught myself thinking last night that we really should have pushed on to try and score more, as Watford were there for the taking. Not only to win the game, but to improve our GD.

 

Although I would have been pleased with top 4 before the season started, there's a massive difference between 3rd and 4th for us, due to our low ranking. We'll probably face stiff competition in a qualifier, in addition to it disrupting our preparation and league start. There's also the element of not being able to guarantee new signings CL football.

 

 

Can't see City giving up a lot of points in these matches, and if we win our remaining ones as well it will come down to GD.

 

 

City:

 

Palace (h)

Leicester (h)

WBA (h)

Watford (a)

 

Not a lot to play for for either team. Hopefully Palace can do a job on them, as they are probably the team best suited to counter City's strengths.

 

Us:

 

S'ton (h)

W'ham (a)

M'boro (h)

 

Think the next game is the key, as Southampton have proven hard to score against. West Ham are on the beach already, and Boro will most likely be down by the time we play them. Fancy us to beat both convincingly.

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I'd take 4th on goal difference right now. Let's face it, if we can't even qualify, we've no chance in winning it anyway. 3rd would be better but it's not massive IMO.

3rd would be a big plus. 4th meaning a  two leg affair early in the summer against reasonable opposition ,could have new faces settling in, Would be good to avoid if possible.

 

That said, we havent qualified yet.

 

Come on reds! 

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Fixture list congestion is going to play a massive part, probably why Mourinho's already moaning about it, pre-emptive excuses at the ready.

 

Arsenal play five games between the 7th and the 21st, with three days between most, and they won't want injuries for the FA Cup final, which is on the 27th.

 

Utd play six games between the 4th and the 21st, including their Europa SF over two legs, with three days rest either side of the Arsenal game in between. They'll probably have the prospect of a EL final to consider as well.

 

I still reckon we'll all drop points, and two wins and a loss (maybe even a win, loss and a draw) would see us to fourth. Hopefully it doesn't go down to the last game of the season though, with Arsenal vs. Everton.

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Alot of those teams ahead will have direct qualification though won't they?

 

Then it will be the top X of those in the qualifiers

 

All the ones named above will be in the Champions League play off if the tables stay the same. They need to play a two-legged tie to qualify for the group stage.

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