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The Offside Rule


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If video technology comes in the offside rule should stay in place. The linesman can raise a flag if offside is given but play should continue until the ball is no longer in play (goal, corner, throw in, goal kick) and if the video shows offside the ref can either bring it back or continue as they were, depending on how the ball ended out of play.

 

If the opposition regain possession they can either stop play (send the ball out) or continue play if they so wish and the flag can go down.

 

It could work but I am sure it won't happen that way, simply because it could work.

 

It would work, in fact it's a great idea,  but I can see the argument against it being that it could not be implemented at "grass roots" level.  

 

My personal suggestion would be to make it like tennis. Give each manager three chances to call for video evidence to challenge whatever decision they want to dispute, whether that be an offside call, penalty, red card or even throw-in decision. Would not harm the flow of the play too much, would keep referees in the game and would shift some of the blame away from them and onto the managers for not/mis-using their challenges.

 

Doesn't American Football have a similar system as well?  If you're right then you keep your challenge but if you're wrong then you lose it?

 

Can see a lot of speculative 90th minute appeals going in as well as time wasting which could be an issue. 

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Keep the offside rule, but go back to a simpler offside rule. All this stuff about active, inactive, first phase, second phase and all the rest of it is too confusing. Go back to an earlier and simpler form of offside.

 

Also, make sure any doubt goes in the favour of the attacker. We want to see goals. Clear daylight and call it, but if level, or even slightly leaning forward, leave it alone.

 

Yep, it just gives officials a licence to cheat or be shit at the job they are paid for. 

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Keep the offside rule, but go back to a simpler offside rule. All this stuff about active, inactive, first phase, second phase and all the rest of it is too confusing. Go back to an earlier and simpler form of offside.

 

Also, make sure any doubt goes in the favour of the attacker. We want to see goals. Clear daylight and call it, but if level, or even slightly leaning forward, leave it alone.

 

Correct.

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If a player from one team commits a foul, the foul does not automatically result in a stoppage of play and a free kick. Similarly offside does not need to result in an automatic stoppage. 

 

If a player is offside, a free kick does not need to be awarded if the attacking team gains no advantage from the player being offside. If they gain an advantage then the defending team gets a free kick. 

 

There will be obvious situations when the attacking team gains an advantage, but in other situations it will be down to the officials to assess. They can allow play to pan out to see if an advantage develops. 

 

So, rather than the 'interfering with play' approach, perhaps the approach should be that a player is offside if the attacking team gets an advantage from that player being in that position?

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The rule is OK. The interpretation isn't applied properly.

 

The main problem for me is the time that a linesman flags for offside when it was actually a perfectly timed run. This is a heinous crime by the lino - he has denied us the spectacle of a perfectly legitimate goal scoring opportunity.

Whereas if he misses a marginal and genuine offside decision then this is acceptable.

 

Interpretation needs to be applied whereby the benefit of ANY doubt always goes to the attacker.

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It would work, in fact it's a great idea,  but I can see the argument against it being that it could not be implemented at "grass roots" level.  

 

 

Doesn't American Football have a similar system as well?  If you're right then you keep your challenge but if you're wrong then you lose it?

 

Can see a lot of speculative 90th minute appeals going in as well as time wasting which could be an issue. 

 

The difference between games at grass roots level and top level football is the repercussions of wrong decisions. In an under-12 match does it really matter that much that a goal is given because a player is slightly offside and a goal is given or a goal is onside and a player is stopped from scoring a goal? 

 

In a Premier League match (and other Leagues, competitions, etc.) sometimes these decisions mean the difference between a League placing, relegation, a loss or win of a multi-million pound title. So the bad decisions at top level are far more noticeable than at grass roots.

 

If it were to be used it could be used on ALL goals where there is even a question to be answered (if the flag is raised) plus perhaps as another poster has said three other occasions at the discretion of each coach. 

 

I quite like the way in rugby it's used where a try is scored and if it's debatable that the ball touched the floor in the hand the referee can ask for the video evidence to be used and a try is either given or disallowed. Same principles really.

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Keep the offside rule, but go back to a simpler offside rule. All this stuff about active, inactive, first phase, second phase and all the rest of it is too confusing. Go back to an earlier and simpler form of offside.

 

Also, make sure any doubt goes in the favour of the attacker. We want to see goals. Clear daylight and call it, but if level, or even slightly leaning forward, leave it alone.

 

The old rule was a joke too where a player was flagged even if he was miles from the play. he we got the "interfering with play " call by the ref . Far from perfect the current rule is the best, Needs more consistent decision making and possibly video technology

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A low-tech potential solution would be to have two linesman on opposite sides of the pitch (in the same half). It is only offside if both flag.

 

UEFA and Serie A use extra "linos" on the goal line (dont think they flag for offside though) but never seem to do anything. Its like the more linos you have, the more reluctant they are to signal any fouls as they dont want to be the odd one out if the other lino and ref dont signal.

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19 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

So FIFA are trying to rush through a change in the offside rule. This changes EVERYTHING. 

Bet it doesn't. There will be the same marginal calls. Clear daylight my arse. 

 

And how can you see clear daylight during evening kickoffs?

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I look forward to the inevitable picture a a back heel so close to the bollocks that they describe it almost as a back heel to the bollocks but not quite so it's onside. 

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