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Theresa "MAY" not build a better Britain.


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Cameron's arrogance caused Brexit , and May has had 3 years as PM to deal with it , while Labour have been very much in a minority in Parliament for all of that time , so how in god's name are Labour as much responsible ?

 

If May had offered a permanent customs union and agreements on workers and EU workers rights in the recent talks , there could well have been a deal weeks ago , but she , not Labour , was the one who had no intention of taking on her right-wing colleagues for the country's benefit and only met Labour in the hope of spreading blame when her red lines torpedoed the talks.

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10 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Cameron's arrogance caused Brexit , and May has had 3 years as PM to deal with it , while Labour have been very much in a minority in Parliament for all of that time , so how in god's name are Labour as much responsible ?

 

If May had offered a permanent customs union and agreements on workers and EU workers rights in the recent talks , there could well have been a deal weeks ago , but she , not Labour , was the one who had no intention of taking on her right-wing colleagues for the country's benefit and only met Labour in the hope of spreading blame when her red lines torpedoed the talks.

 

Staying in the customs union isn't Brexit, so I can understand her rejecting that.

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Goodbye you horrible fucking cunt.

 

Dispicable woman that went to any length to protect her job or her party.

 

No personality or people skills. Just disastrous in every sense. Look at her campaigns, speeches and social awkwardness. Disaster after disaster. The opposite of the midas touch in a political sense.

 

Forgetting the calamity of Brexshit, scandal of Windrush (where Rudd was sacrificed to save her ass), scandalous lack of human touch after Grenfell, did fuck all else for the UK where so many issues needed to be addressed and still haven't been addressed. Absolute disgrace.

 

People also forget what a cunt she was as Home Secretary and the ramifications her dreadful decisions back then have had and are still having on our emergency services.

 

In summary, good fucking riddance you cancerous cunt.

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44 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

I don't want false sentiments. I just want a party that's honest with their voters. Labour like to pretend they are for sitting down and hashing out a deal when they have no interest in doing so. They also like to pretend that they aren't getting in the way of Brexit when they've strategically voted against every proposed deal barre their own ones. They are as much responsible for this impasse as the Tories are.

You don't believe this. 

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24 minutes ago, 1892-LFCWasBorn said:

Goodbye you horrible fucking cunt.

 

Dispicable woman that went to any length to protect her job or her party.

 

No personality or people skills. Just disastrous in every sense. Look at her campaigns, speeches and social awkwardness. Disaster after disaster. The opposite of the midas touch in a political sense.

 

Forgetting the calamity of Brexshit, scandal of Windrush (where Rudd was sacrificed to save her ass), scandalous lack of human touch after Grenfell, did fuck all else for the UK where so many issues needed to be addressed and still haven't been addressed. Absolute disgrace.

 

People also forget what a cunt she was as Home Secretary and the ramifications her dreadful decisions back then have had and are still having on our emergency services.

 

In summary, good fucking riddance you cancerous cunt.

 

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3 hours ago, Boss said:

 

His speech was stupid. He could've worked with the PM to get a deal, instead he's only interested in playing party politics and calling for a general election. We've created an environment where no MP works in the national interest anymore. They all hate each other with a feverish passion. Their existence is to stop the other and not to benefit the people. Even the idea of putting their party politics to the side to compromise is unfathomable to them. We've elected 650 Littlefingers and no Tywin Lannisters. 

 

As you say... you get the country you deserve.

A deal was never on the cards.

 

It was a trap of such guile and cunning it might as well have been standing outside Trump Tower with a bottle of piss and a video camera. 

 

Loads of people had been 'summonsed' to see the malevolent old bat well before Corbyn was to try and strike 'a deal', including Sturgeon, Cable, Umuna and the likes and they all pretty much came out saying the same thing, along the lines of 'That was fucking weird, she kept repeating her deal was the only deal, total waste of time.'

 

Labour were only brought into it at five to midnight so if it went tits up she could try and blame them, unfortunately for her she was unable to shift the narrative because her loyal troops and their media pals wanted to keep the spotlight fixed firmly on her for their own ends.

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58 minutes ago, 1892-LFCWasBorn said:

Goodbye you horrible fucking cunt.

 

Dispicable woman that went to any length to protect her job or her party.

 

No personality or people skills. Just disastrous in every sense. Look at her campaigns, speeches and social awkwardness. Disaster after disaster. The opposite of the midas touch in a political sense.

 

Forgetting the calamity of Brexshit, scandal of Windrush (where Rudd was sacrificed to save her ass), scandalous lack of human touch after Grenfell, did fuck all else for the UK where so many issues needed to be addressed and still haven't been addressed. Absolute disgrace.

 

People also forget what a cunt she was as Home Secretary and the ramifications her dreadful decisions back then have had and are still having on our emergency services.

 

In summary, good fucking riddance you cancerous cunt.

Fence sitter 

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12 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

A deal was never on the cards.

 

It was a trap of such guile and cunning it might as well have been standing outside Trump Tower with a bottle of piss and a video camera. 

 

Loads of people had been 'summonsed' to see the malevolent old bat well before Corbyn was to try and strike 'a deal', including Sturgeon, Cable, Umuna and the likes and they all pretty much came out saying the same thing, along the lines of 'That was fucking weird, she kept repeating her deal was the only deal, total waste of time.'

 

Labour were only brought into it at five to midnight so if it went tits up she could try and blame them, unfortunately for her she was unable to shift the narrative because her loyal troops and their media pals wanted to keep the spotlight fixed firmly on her for their own ends.

 

I don't think Labour were brought into negotiations as a patsy - although I can see why it could be construed that way. She was in deadlock within her own party. The ERG refused to give way on anything. The only option was to seek a compromise with the only party capable of getting the deal through. By all accounts Corbyn basically asked to remain (but pretend we're leaving), if the closer ties with the single market and staying in the customs union demands were true. There was no attempt whatsoever, nor has there been at any stage, for Labour to strike a deal. Labour only care about a general election and have made that abundantly clear whenever pressed on the issue of a compromise. 

 

That's not to say she wasn't a laughing stock, or that she wasn't the worst PM in history. She was all those things but Labour are equally shambolic and rightfully deserve to be called out on their party politicking.

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Boss , I'm not really sure what you think Labour should have done in the 'national interest'. 

 

They went into negotiations with proposals that they thought would make the best of a bad situation without reneging on the referendum. May's awful deal wasn't part of the referendum so I'm not sure why Labour would feel tied to accepting the same deal re-heated after it had been laughed out of Parliament on three occasions , and this was basically all that was on offer after 6 weeks of efforts.

 

I note your comment regarding customs union as ' Not Brexit ' but I think this is a massive reason for the problems as who the fuck knows what Brexit 'is' as the original choice was made in black and white while the reality is in technicolor. Let's be honest , even the main stumbling block of Ireland as is realised now was barely mentioned in the run up never mind European arrest warrants & spooks / court / police co-operation etc.

 

Of course Labour want a general election , as there are hundreds of things wrong with the country that they hope to fix and while Brexit is vitally important , we can't ignore the plight of people who will suffer terribly whichever way the Brexit debate goes.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

Well, Labour and the Tories have both been putting party before country. Can't say I blame them, after seeing what happened to the last lot who put country before party.

St Clegg , the patron saint of martyrs. oh , and ministerial cars.

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6 minutes ago, sir roger said:

St Clegg , the patron saint of martyrs. oh , and ministerial cars.

 

Funny, because one of the first things the Lib Dems did was cut down on use of ministerial cars. Reduced costs by 44% under the coalition.

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May was totally unsuitable as PM

Her personality and awkwardness under the spotlight was an utter embarrassment.

She had an awful hand to play committed to delivering Brexit whilst trying not to send the country over a cliff plus not having a majority in the house . I doubt anyone following Cameron could have succeeded.

Johnson will soon find out the numbers won’t stack up either and I predict now there will be a further extension and a GE . 

Hung Parliament yet again and a second referendum 

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56 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Boss , I'm not really sure what you think Labour should have done in the 'national interest'. 

 

They went into negotiations with proposals that they thought would make the best of a bad situation without reneging on the referendum. May's awful deal wasn't part of the referendum so I'm not sure why Labour would feel tied to accepting the same deal re-heated after it had been laughed out of Parliament on three occasions , and this was basically all that was on offer after 6 weeks of efforts.

 

I note your comment regarding customs union as ' Not Brexit ' but I think this is a massive reason for the problems as who the fuck knows what Brexit 'is' as the original choice was made in black and white while the reality is in technicolor. Let's be honest , even the main stumbling block of Ireland as is realised now was barely mentioned in the run up never mind European arrest warrants & spooks / court / police co-operation etc.

 

Of course Labour want a general election , as there are hundreds of things wrong with the country that they hope to fix and while Brexit is vitally important , we can't ignore the plight of people who will suffer terribly whichever way the Brexit debate goes.

 

Brexit was about leaving the EU. So logically a Customs Union where we abide by EU tariffs and rules flies in the face of that. It was also about having stronger borders and curtailing immigration, so we can't remain in the Single Market because it ties us to freedom of movement across the EU bloc. You can't deliver Brexit with open borders and you can't deliver Brexit by deferring our trade agreements to the EU.

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