Chelsea 1 Liverpool 2 (Sep 16 2016)

[Gym Beglin]

Very easy to call Burnley a fluke result, but we're not out of the woods just yet.

 

The sit-back merchants will frustrate the players, and that's when they'll lose their heads and make incorrect decisions.

 

Getting the first goal, and getting it early, is the gameplan. United used to do it, a lot, just hammered teams from the first whistle and rattled them for 10 minutes so they never got their shape sorted. Suddenly they're a goal down and the gameplan to stifle is out of the window.

[Gym Beglin]

(United league goals scored in first 20 minutes)

 

United season 1998/99

 

Yorke v Coventry (20 mins)

Irwin v Liverpool (19 mins)

Yorke v Southampton (12 mins)

Cole v Wimbledon (19 mins)

Yorke v Everton (14 mins)

Solskjaer v Spurs (11 mins)

Yorke v West Ham (10 mins)

Yorke v Leicester City (10 mins)

Yorke v Notts Forest (2 mins)

Watson OG v Villa (20 mins)

 

 

United season 1999/2000

 

Yorke v Everton (7 mins)

Scholes v Sheff Wed (9 mins)

Cole v Newcastle Utd (14 mins)

Carragher OG v Liverpool (4 mins)

Yorke v West Ham United (9 mins)

Yorke v Derby County (13 mins)

Solskjaer v Sunderland (3 mins)

Beckham v Southampton (8 mins)

Yorke v Chelsea (11 mins)

Solskjaer v Spurs (5 mins)

 

 

United season 2000/2001

 

Johnsen v Newcastle United (20 mins)

Beckham v West Ham (6 mins)

Cole v Bradford City (11 mins)

Scholes v Sunderland (14 mins)

Scholes v Chelsea (14 mins)

Cole v Southampton (9 mins)

Beckham v Man City (2 mins)

Solskjaer v Ipswich (20 mins)

Solskjaer v West Ham (3 mins)

Yorke v Arsenal (3 mins)

Yorke v Coventry (13 mins)

P Neville v Boro (4 mins)

 

 

Also looked at the Ronaldo years when they won 3 titles on the trot, and on average they scored 12 times a season within 20 mins of a game. Invariably they won most of them, it's around 90+ percent I think.

 

Whereas you look at us last season for example, where we scored in the first 20:

 

Milner v Villa (2 mins) W

Mangala OG v City (7 mins) W

Firmino v Arsenal (10 mins) D

Firmino v Norwich (18 mins) W

Sturridge v Villa (16 mins) W

Coutinho v Southampton (17 mins) L

Moreno v Stoke (8 mins) W

Sturridge v Newcastle (2 mins) D

 

 

And the season before:

 

Sterling v Spurs (8 mins) W

Can v Chelsea (9 mins) L

Lambert v Palace (2 mins) L

Gerrard v Leicester (17 mins) D

Markovic v Sunderland (9 mins) W

Markovic v Spurs (15 mins) W

Coutinho v Southampton (3 mins) W

Henderson v Man City (11 mins) W

Sterling v Newcastle (9 mins) W

 

 

Compared with the 'almost' season, 2013/14:

 

Sturridge v Man United (4 mins) W

Sturridge v Swansea (4 mins) D

Suarez v Palace (13 mins) W

SUarez v West Brom (12 mins) W

Coutinho v Everton (5 mins) D

Suarez v Norwich (15 mins) W

Suarez v Spurs (18 mins) W

Skrtel v Chelsea (4 mins) L

Shawcross OG v Stoke (5 mins) W

Skrtel v Arsenal (1 mins) W

Sturridge v Swansea (3 mins) W

Suarez v Southampton (16 mins) W

Suarez v Cardiff (18 mins) W

Kaboul OG v Spurs (2 mins) W

Sterling v Man City (6 mins) W

Sterling v Norwich (4 mins) W

Allen v Palace (18 mins) D

 

17 games!

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I called it a fluke result based on the game, we had 20-30 shots , 70% posession, every other season has beeen a different squad, a different manager, I just don't see how results against promoted sides in previous reasons bares any relevance, when for the most part it was different managers, and different players.

 

It is taking a slightly optimistic view I admit, but I'm very happy with what I've seen so far, and nobody on this earth could say we were beaten fairly by Burnley, they had almost no other clear goal chances.

[lifetime fan]

Burnley was a total and utter fluke result, it happens, look at Barcelona the other week, losing to Alaves, we absolutely dominated everything in the game, if we played Bunrley 38 times this season we'd win at least 30 of the games.

We have more total and utter fluke results against shite teams than anyone else.