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It’s Daniel Sturridge territory now. Doesn’t matter how good a player is when they’re unavailable all the time and we won’t sign a more reliable player in their position while they’re still here. 

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Just checked  - this season we have played 11 games, he was available for two.

 

He was available for 15 league games last season, played 9 times - he played in 1 CL game, 1 FA cup round and the Super cup.

 

The most worrisome is the different injuries - knee, hamstring, collarbone, thigh, "muscle" injury, ankle. Sheesh.

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32 minutes ago, Crazy Dave said:

Top class centre back, but we can't go on like this. His fitness record is a fucking joke. Obviously not the lad's fault but his body isn't up to it. 

For me, he's the third best cb in the league and there is nothing between him and Laporte.

 

Wasn't very impressed with the heralded Leipzig defenders yesterday though in fairness, if you had seen our defence against Villa, I guess it would be the same if you were looking in. Maybe their defenders are as good or could be as good as Matip, but not many really good centre halves out there at his level. Fair points though. He really needs to give us a 6 month season at least. It's very frustrating to watch.

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14 minutes ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

For me, he's the third best cb in the league and there is nothing between him and Laporte.

 

Wasn't very impressed with the heralded Leipzig defenders yesterday though in fairness, if you had seen our defence against Villa, I guess it would be the same if you were looking in. Maybe their defenders are as good or could be as good as Matip, but not many really good centre halves out there at his level. Fair points though. He really needs to give us a 6 month season at least. It's very frustrating to watch.

I wouldn't take the United game as any proof that Upamecano or Konaté aren't good. Leipzig played mega attacking and United just sucker punched them a bunch if times.

 

But I think the Upamecano link is a bit lazy. Usual yearly link with a Leipzig player. I think he'll have better choices for playing time than at us.

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28 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

I wouldn't take the United game as any proof that Upamecano or Konaté aren't good. Leipzig played mega attacking and United just sucker punched them a bunch if times.

 

But I think the Upamecano link is a bit lazy. Usual yearly link with a Leipzig player. I think he'll have better choices for playing time than at us.

No I agree with you. I've seen them a few times and they look really good. It was a real off day in the second half. Can't be judged on the Manc game.

 

I do think that unless Matip turns in a consistent level of fitness, he could be sold. I'd be gutted because he's top class. Not many out there better than him though.

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7 minutes ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

 

I do think that unless Matip turns in a consistent level of fitness, he could be sold. I'd be gutted because he's top class. Not many out there better than him though.

I'm not sure we would get a whole lot for him - everyone will be well aware of his injury record and he will be 30.

 

TBH that is probably the clubs mentality - he wouldn't raise much of a fee and he is on "relatively" low wages. 

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On 22/10/2020 at 22:36, Dr Nowt said:

Glue factory for this lad.

 

5 hours ago, Dr Nowt said:

It’s Daniel Sturridge territory now. Doesn’t matter how good a player is when they’re unavailable all the time and we won’t sign a more reliable player in their position while they’re still here. 

Hearing the Dr has shares in Nat Phillips.

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4 minutes ago, Numero said:

Can we not. I thought we'd lost another one. 

We have, haven't we?

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