Joel Matip

[aRdja]

3 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

Is aRdj now negging any post that mentions Lovren??

 

Umm kayy

I don’t rate posters trying to ‘troll’ others by dissing our own players.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

13 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

I don’t rate posters trying to ‘troll’ others by dissing our own players.

You do rate them. Negatively. Not rating them is leaving them alone.

 

Hope this helps.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

Is aRdj now negging any post that mentions Lovren??

 

Umm kayy

Well, he hasn't negged you yet.

[aRdja]

12 hours ago, rotoq said:

You do rate them. Negatively. Not rating them is leaving them alone.

 

Hope this helps.

Or that.

[Grinch]

16 hours ago, viRdjil said:

I don’t rate posters trying to ‘troll’ others by dissing our own players.

Says the Muppet who did it non stop with Bobby Firmino. 

 

At least those not rating Lovern are watching the games. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

aRdj can go in the summer. 

[dockers_strike]

Anyone seen Matip!? The club's been very cagey about his injury and he's missed a fair few games now.

[Lee909]

No timetable on a return yet from what I read yesterday 

[TheHowieLama]

He's fucked like Torres was.

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

On 29/10/2019 at 12:41, etho said:

I think we can get away with Lovren against most, but our away game v man city last season was ridiculous.  2 incredible teams playing at such a high level, and Citys gameplan was clearly let Lovren have the ball, knowing hes a level below everyone else in the team. 

Gomez has to come in now surely

 

Yes and no. We obviously stand a decent chance with him in the team as well, but that’s cause of the general quality of the team, and our unmatched fighting spirit.

 

Lovren struggles against quick skilful players and is bullied in the air against the dross. He’s a liability.

[El Rojo]

15 minutes ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:

 

Yes and no. We obviously stand a decent chance with him in the team as well, but that’s cause of the general quality of the team, and our unmatched fighting spirit.

 

Lovren struggles against quick skilful players and is bullied in the air against the dross. He’s a liability.

We’re in a very good place if Lovren’s a liability. We’ve won every game he’s played in this season. He didn’t play in the defeat to Napoli or the draw with Man United. 

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

11 minutes ago, El Rojo said:

We’re in a very good place if Lovren’s a liability. We’ve won every game he’s played in this season. He didn’t play in the defeat to Napoli or the draw with Man United. 

 

Agree. We’re in a good place. Absolutely unbelievable actually, and the way this team refuses to loose, even on an off day is fantastic.

 

But all teams have weaknesses and he’s one of ours. 

[Red Hot]

16 minutes ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:

 

Agree. We’re in a good place. Absolutely unbelievable actually, and the way this team refuses to loose, even on an off day is fantastic.

 

But all teams have weaknesses and he’s one of ours. 

I would say he is a liability. His distribution is ofter suicidal  and he definately disturbs the teams link up play from defence to attack.  

 

[aRdja]

2 hours ago, El Rojo said:

We’re in a very good place if Lovren’s a liability. We’ve won every game he’s played in this season. He didn’t play in the defeat to Napoli or the draw with Man United. 

Rep this guy please. I don’t know why some people are desperate to talk our players down. Lovren had a good game today. He got the highest ratings on the Echo and the Express. He’s no Virgil, but he’d start at all other top 6 teams as he’s a far better defender than David Luiz, Sokratis, Zouma, Stones, Fernandinho (at CB), Otamendi, Sanchez, Lindelöf.

[VladimirIlyich]

10 hours ago, viRdjil said:

Rep this guy please. I don’t know why some people are desperate to talk our players down. Lovren had a good game today. He got the highest ratings on the Echo and the Express. He’s no Virgil, but he’d start at all other top 6 teams as he’s a far better defender than David Luiz, Sokratis, Zouma, Stones, Fernandinho (at CB), Otamendi, Sanchez, Lindelöf.

Luiz is now shit because he is alongside shitter defenders than he once was. Lovren benefits a lot from having a brilliant centre half alongside him too. To be fair,he is a much better option than Gomez at present given how Joe seems to have lost his mojo.

[aRdja]

8 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Luiz is now shit because he is alongside shitter defenders than he once was. Lovren benefits a lot from having a brilliant centre half alongside him too. To be fair,he is a much better option than Gomez at present given how Joe seems to have lost his mojo.

Luiz has been an awful centre half for a long time now. Last I remember him having a good season was Conte’s first and even then he had protection from the two centre halfs on either side.

[VladimirIlyich]

5 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

Luiz has been an awful centre half for a long time now. Last I remember him having a good season was Conte’s first and even then he had protection from the two centre halfs on either side.

I don't disagree with you regarding Luiz,its just amazing how good playing alongside brilliant defenders can make you look.

[Ronnie Whelan]

Lovren is a decent defender. The problem for him is that at Liverpool, even if you make one bad mistake every six or seven games, anything else you do no matter how good is forgotten. He needs to be beside Virgil who directs him what to do. Joe is a bit like that too. Until the injury last season, I felt he was a shoe in to be a world class player for the next ten years. Now I am not so sure. 

 

Matip doesn't need that direction. He has his own footballing intelligence and as a pair, him and Virgil are the closest I have seen to Jocky and Lawro. It is a thing of beauty watching them defend together. I think I heard Denis Irwin on five live last year saying they are majestic together and that is how I see them. For me, Matip is the third best defender in the league, with Laporte just taking the runner up spot. I rate Laporte as a candidate for a world eleven so that is how good Joel is.

[KMD7]

2 hours ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

Lovren is a decent defender. The problem for him is that at Liverpool, even if you make one bad mistake every six or seven games, anything else you do no matter how good is forgotten. He needs to be beside Virgil who directs him what to do. Joe is a bit like that too. Until the injury last season, I felt he was a shoe in to be a world class player for the next ten years. Now I am not so sure. 

 

Matip doesn't need that direction. He has his own footballing intelligence and as a pair, him and Virgil are the closest I have seen to Jocky and Lawro. It is a thing of beauty watching them defend together. I think I heard Denis Irwin on five live last year saying they are majestic together and that is how I see them. For me, Matip is the third best defender in the league, with Laporte just taking the runner up spot. I rate Laporte as a candidate for a world eleven so that is how good Joel is.

Good post, agree with that

[easytoslip]

3 hours ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

Lovren is a decent defender. The problem for him is that at Liverpool, even if you make one bad mistake every six or seven games, anything else you do no matter how good is forgotten. He needs to be beside Virgil who directs him what to do. Joe is a bit like that too. Until the injury last season, I felt he was a shoe in to be a world class player for the next ten years. Now I am not so sure. 

 

Matip doesn't need that direction. He has his own footballing intelligence and as a pair, him and Virgil are the closest I have seen to Jocky and Lawro. It is a thing of beauty watching them defend together. I think I heard Denis Irwin on five live last year saying they are majestic together and that is how I see them. For me, Matip is the third best defender in the league, with Laporte just taking the runner up spot. I rate Laporte as a candidate for a world eleven so that is how good Joel is.

I remember watching the game down here focusing on Matip and Van Dyke who was playing for Southampton and thought they’re going to be good together , or they would be good playing alongside each other , as I’m pretty sure Van Dyke was on his way here amid all the goings on at the time.

[alles ist gut]

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Joel Matip remains unavailable as Liverpool await a fresh assessment of his knee injury.

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/374798-jurgen-klopp-update-joel-matip-fitness

[TheHowieLama]

What the serious fuck is going on with our medical team. Every player who is supposed to be out for a few weeks ends up out for months.

[sir roger]

Joel Matip RIP YNWA

[Grinch]

More weeks of Lovren causing complete disruption and being hailed as good because he throws himself about. 

 

At the heart of every Palace chance at the weekend. 

[El Rojo]

35 minutes ago, Grinch said:

More weeks of Lovren causing complete disruption and being hailed as good because he throws himself about. 

 

At the heart of every Palace chance at the weekend. 

So what's your solution?