Joel Matip

[an tha]

5 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

Yeah, I imagine matip has played a few more than konate this season, I expect it to be the other way round next. 

Matip: 43 appearances - 3,705 mins

 

Konate: 29 apperances - 2,487 mins.

 

Only 990 mins of Konate's were in PL (11 full games)

 

Matip played 31 full PL games.

 

Interestingly when either played in league they played full 90...not once was either subbed off or brought on as a sub.

 

VVD played 34 league games and they were also all the full 90....

 

So it shows how well we did this season keeping them all fit.

 

Gomez never got a PL game at centre half

[gkmacca]

16 minutes ago, an tha said:

So it shows how well we did this season keeping them all fit.

 

I've already pointed it out several times and been completely ignored, so it will probably take an article in the Athletic before anyone else suddenly thinks it's significant: the unsung hero of the season was Andreas Schlumberger. Since he came in our use of rotation has become much more sophisticated, and player after player who previously struggled with niggling injuries has improved. His particular speciality is the recovery period, and I really thinnk we would have struggled to play so many games without his input. He's been a great Klopp signing - so far practically under the radar. (Wipe this from your mind so you can be suitably shocked when that James Pearce piece appears in, oh, probably early August.)

[VladimirIlyich]

24 minutes ago, gkmacca said:

I've already pointed it out several times and been completely ignored, so it will probably take an article in the Athletic before anyone else suddenly thinks it's significant: the unsung hero of the season was Andreas Schlumberger. Since he came in our use of rotation has become much more sophisticated, and player after player who previously struggled with niggling injuries has improved. His particular speciality is the recovery period, and I really thinnk we would have struggled to play so many games without his input. He's been a great Klopp signing - so far practically under the radar. (Wipe this from your mind so you can be suitably shocked when that James Pearce piece appears in, oh, probably early August.)

Fair shout. There has also been a lot of talk about that fitness software or device the squad has been using with a space age sounding type of name.

[an tha]

34 minutes ago, gkmacca said:

I've already pointed it out several times and been completely ignored, so it will probably take an article in the Athletic before anyone else suddenly thinks it's significant: the unsung hero of the season was Andreas Schlumberger. Since he came in our use of rotation has become much more sophisticated, and player after player who previously struggled with niggling injuries has improved. His particular speciality is the recovery period, and I really thinnk we would have struggled to play so many games without his input. He's been a great Klopp signing - so far practically under the radar. (Wipe this from your mind so you can be suitably shocked when that James Pearce piece appears in, oh, probably early August.)

Yeah the evidence certainly backs up this shout.

[dave u]

34 minutes ago, gkmacca said:

I've already pointed it out several times and been completely ignored, so it will probably take an article in the Athletic before anyone else suddenly thinks it's significant: the unsung hero of the season was Andreas Schlumberger. Since he came in our use of rotation has become much more sophisticated, and player after player who previously struggled with niggling injuries has improved. His particular speciality is the recovery period, and I really thinnk we would have struggled to play so many games without his input. He's been a great Klopp signing - so far practically under the radar. (Wipe this from your mind so you can be suitably shocked when that James Pearce piece appears in, oh, probably early August.)

 

We've shouted him out on the pod several times, although in fairness none of us know his name and he's generally referred to as "the new fitness guy they brought in to fix Matip".

[alles ist gut]

 

[Reckoner]

19 minutes ago, alles ist gut said:

 

Someone’s after a new contract 

[VladimirIlyich]

14 hours ago, alles ist gut said:

 

And that's our third choice centre half! 

[Barrington Womble]

3 games in a week too much. 

 

https://twitter.com/JamesPearceLFC/status/1579767260746764288?t=AiH4OAwju_5kOXkuTBoKow&s=09

 

 

[El Rojo]

Went to bump this thread but Barry Wom already got there hours ago. Nobody even responded. We're conditioned for this stuff now. 

 

Out for two to three weeks in the season that keeps on giving. 

 

Trent, Robbo and Matip all out. Three of our 'first choice' back four.  

 

Anyway, at least we'll be seeing more of the brilliant Konate, once he stays fit. 

[an tha]

Something isn't right - this many injuries and them being so relentless goes beyond "bad luck" or "part of the game" IMO.

 

So with Gomez needed at RB, if Konate is not ready then it could be Phillips v Haaland at weekend!

[Funkasy]

Nats head is the only thing that can break Haland this season.

[waddy78]

3 hours ago, an tha said:

Something isn't right - this many injuries and them being so relentless goes beyond "bad luck" or "part of the game" IMO.

 

So with Gomez needed at RB, if Konate is not ready then it could be Phillips v Haaland at weekend!

To be fair most of the injuries we've had this season (Trent and Robbo aside) are the "usual suspects" we've got an aging slightly injury prone Midfield and we play (or we used to play) heavy metal football it all points to injuries happening, although surely with the amount of fitness coaches,Physios sports scientist and all the gizmos they us to monitor players you'd think we'd have a bit of a heads up when it comes to pulls or strains or wear and tear as they call it.

[johnsusername]

3 hours ago, an tha said:

 

So with Gomez needed at RB, if Konate is not ready then it could be Phillips v Haaland at weekend!

Make it happen! Nat will head him into oblivion. 

[VladimirIlyich]

On 11/10/2022 at 19:07, johnsusername said:

Make it happen! Nat will head him into oblivion. 

If he ever gets close enough!

[Elite]

On 11/10/2022 at 18:43, waddy78 said:

To be fair most of the injuries we've had this season (Trent and Robbo aside) are the "usual suspects" we've got an aging slightly injury prone Midfield and we play (or we used to play) heavy metal football it all points to injuries happening, although surely with the amount of fitness coaches,Physios sports scientist and all the gizmos they us to monitor players you'd think we'd have a bit of a heads up when it comes to pulls or strains or wear and tear as they call it.

Understatement and half that!

[an tha]

Read earlier he is out until after Bommy Night.

 

Thought was a "2 week" job originally 

[Pidge]

 

[Reckoner]

The fact Matip does his Christmas shopping last minute makes me smile. God bless him.

 

[an tha]

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/how-liverpools-centre-backs-are-adapting-trents-hybrid-role

[Kevin D]

Leggy last season, but a slow return to form.

 

Don’t know if he’s playing for a contract, but if he is, give him another year.

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

51 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

Leggy last season, but a slow return to form.

 

Don’t know if he’s playing for a contract, but if he is, give him another year.

Disgree. I have a lot of time for Matip, but no time for sentiment here, get the necessary CB business done next summer, and let Matip leave.

[Kevin D]

9 minutes ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:

Disgree. I have a lot of time for Matip, but no time for sentiment here, get the necessary CB business done next summer, and let Matip leave.

Keep him as 4th choice, Konate and Van Dijk, blood the new guy in.

[Red74]

Shame we never knocked that habit of kicking the ball with his ankles out of him years ago otherwise he’d have belted that ball into the stands last night.

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

21 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

Keep him as 4th choice, Konate and Van Dijk, blood the new guy in.

Is not a terrible option I agree, especially if Matip had a better injury record. I’d rather see us get two new CBs in though, as Matip isn’t reliable enough. We’ve caused ourselves enough trouble the last few years by keeping ageing injury prone players too long, let’s not keep repeating that.