Joel Matip

[Ronnie Whelan]

32 minutes ago, Crazy Dave said:

Top class centre back, but we can't go on like this. His fitness record is a fucking joke. Obviously not the lad's fault but his body isn't up to it. 

For me, he's the third best cb in the league and there is nothing between him and Laporte.

 

Wasn't very impressed with the heralded Leipzig defenders yesterday though in fairness, if you had seen our defence against Villa, I guess it would be the same if you were looking in. Maybe their defenders are as good or could be as good as Matip, but not many really good centre halves out there at his level. Fair points though. He really needs to give us a 6 month season at least. It's very frustrating to watch.

[3 Stacks]

14 minutes ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

For me, he's the third best cb in the league and there is nothing between him and Laporte.

 

Wasn't very impressed with the heralded Leipzig defenders yesterday though in fairness, if you had seen our defence against Villa, I guess it would be the same if you were looking in. Maybe their defenders are as good or could be as good as Matip, but not many really good centre halves out there at his level. Fair points though. He really needs to give us a 6 month season at least. It's very frustrating to watch.

I wouldn't take the United game as any proof that Upamecano or Konaté aren't good. Leipzig played mega attacking and United just sucker punched them a bunch if times.

 

But I think the Upamecano link is a bit lazy. Usual yearly link with a Leipzig player. I think he'll have better choices for playing time than at us.

[Ronnie Whelan]

28 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

I wouldn't take the United game as any proof that Upamecano or Konaté aren't good. Leipzig played mega attacking and United just sucker punched them a bunch if times.

 

But I think the Upamecano link is a bit lazy. Usual yearly link with a Leipzig player. I think he'll have better choices for playing time than at us.

No I agree with you. I've seen them a few times and they look really good. It was a real off day in the second half. Can't be judged on the Manc game.

 

I do think that unless Matip turns in a consistent level of fitness, he could be sold. I'd be gutted because he's top class. Not many out there better than him though.

[TheHowieLama]

7 minutes ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

 

I do think that unless Matip turns in a consistent level of fitness, he could be sold. I'd be gutted because he's top class. Not many out there better than him though.

I'm not sure we would get a whole lot for him - everyone will be well aware of his injury record and he will be 30.

 

TBH that is probably the clubs mentality - he wouldn't raise much of a fee and he is on "relatively" low wages. 

[Scott_M]

I hope her can get fit for Saturday and stay fit until next Sunday evening.

[El Rojo]

On 22/10/2020 at 22:36, Dr Nowt said:

Glue factory for this lad.

 

5 hours ago, Dr Nowt said:

It’s Daniel Sturridge territory now. Doesn’t matter how good a player is when they’re unavailable all the time and we won’t sign a more reliable player in their position while they’re still here. 

Hearing the Dr has shares in Nat Phillips.

[Kevin D]

Hmm.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

Hmmmmmm.

[Leyton388]

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[Numero Veinticinco]

Can we not. I thought we'd lost another one. 

[m0e]

4 minutes ago, Numero said:

Can we not. I thought we'd lost another one. 

We have, haven't we?

[Numero Veinticinco]

8 minutes ago, m0e said:

We have, haven't we?

He injured?

[TheDrowningMan]

Probably back in mid-January then?

[aws]

Get him fit for Spurs and play Phillips against Benteke. 

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

13 minutes ago, TheDrowningMan said:

Probably back in mid-January then?

I’m getting a spasm in my head from this.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

14 minutes ago, aws said:

Get him fit for Spurs and play Phillips against Benteke. 

Good call. Phillips hasn't let us down so far, and has great anti-grock weaponry.

[Stickman]

Great player but ...

 

 

[VladimirIlyich]

He looked way out of the game in the first half yesterday so no surprise he was subbed anyhow.

[johnsusername]

I had a back injury last year and had back spasms. Could hardly walk without insane pain, ended up in A and E then on Diazapam for a few days. If that's what he's got them touch and go for Spurs. Reckon he should be ok for the weekend. But Matip on Diazapam - not sure he could be any more chilled out, he'll be sleeping on the penalty spot. 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

5 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

I had a back injury last year and had back spasms. Could hardly walk without insane pain, ended up in A and E then on Diazapam for a few days. If that's what he's got them touch and go for Spurs. Reckon he should be ok for the weekend. But Matip on Diazapam - not sure he could be any more chilled out, he'll be sleeping on the penalty spot. 

Suffered for years, you are probably right about the time scale. But I don’t have the  access to the medical resources he will. 

[Captain Howdy]

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[Captain Howdy]

Genuine shame he’s made of weetabix, top, top player

[Guest]

Joel Matip is haunted by a poltergeist, it's the only explanation that makes any sense! 

[Ronnie Whelan]

Absolutely top class player. Him and Fabinho are a great combination.

 

If he's 50-50 for Spurs, I'd rather him saved for Palace. They will be a tough away game and after that, we have a week until West Brom, which we could potentially rest him for to have him right for Newcastle and Southampton. 

[El Rojo]

He's great when he plays. Glad to hear this is only a minor setback for him by our current cursed standards. Kane and Son are a significantly greater challenge than whatever Palace will throw at us, so I'd be prioritising the Spurs game for him.