January 2017 transfer window

[jimmycase]

Well at least bobby firmino turned out today whether he was still carrying an injury or had that aircrash on his mind. Meanwhile, back on Merseyside, dan sturridge was doing what?

[G Richards]

Well at least bobby firmino turned out today whether he was still carrying an injury or had that aircrash on his mind. Meanwhile, back on Merseyside, dan sturridge was doing what?

Meeting with his agent to go over a contract offer from West Ham?

[G Richards]

Technical players are great most of the time but sometimes it's just raw pace and directness that undo these kind of sides.

Bournemouth got better when Fraser came on, and we fell to pieces when Mane came off and all of a sudden they weren't frightened of our attack and so could push up.

Sorry?

I think that's a fair point. When Mane came off they moved out and went for it.

 

I agree with both of you, by the way! Firmino is a very good player who is well worth his place in the side. He's not a problem. But we do need pace too.

 

It's all gone quiet on the Inaki Williams front. I haven't said his name for about a week! Williams, Pulisic and Van Dijk. It's going to be the mother of all January windows. OK, I'll go for a lie down.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Well at least bobby firmino turned out today whether he was still carrying an injury or had that aircrash on his mind. Meanwhile, back on Merseyside, dan sturridge was doing what?

Watching I'm a celebrity. He will be on it soon enough.

[ZonkoVille77]

Watching I'm a celebrity. He will be on it soon enough.

Sturridge only puts God in his mouth.

[Remmie]

Has everyone forgotten what Sturridge did a couple years ago? I don't see any advantage in selling him, if people are annoyed he's not playing now, he's hardly going to play for us more if we sell him! We shouldn't need the money for him to buy more players and with Ings injured it would be madness to get rid even if Klopp didn't rate him.

 

If Klopp wants Pulisic, Dahoud or whoever, spend the fucking cash on his number 1 target.

[Bjornebye]

Stevie doing the draw. Man u away I reckon it will be.

[Captain]

Has everyone forgotten what Sturridge did a couple years ago? I don't see any advantage in selling him, if people are annoyed he's not playing now, he's hardly going to play for us more if we sell him! We shouldn't need the money for him to buy more players and with Ings injured it would be madness to get rid even if Klopp didn't rate him.

 

If Klopp wants Pulisic, Dahoud or whoever, spend the fucking cash on his number 1 target.

 

No, we shouldn't.

 

I'm not sure FSG agree though.

[Russ Atmosphere]

No, we shouldn't.

 

I'm not sure FSG agree though.

They have always sold big wage benchwarmers. Although I've found this preferable to when they first arrived and sold all the big wage first team players.

[Grinch]

tbf it's pretty stupid for your highest earner (or damn close) to be a bench warmer whose well past his best.

 

Even though they're doing it for the wrong reasons, we'll be a better team IF Klopp is allowed to spend the money.   Big IF tho.

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

Jurgen Klopp would laugh his ass off at that post.

 

He is the perfect Klopp player. He has been brilliant this season. He doesn't score today, despite not being the CF and he was playing with pain (Klopps words), yet you think he is the problem. Despite our attack being the best in the league and him being a key player in that, not to mention what he offers without the ball.

 

I find it utterly bizarre that he is your "priority upgrade" over the GK, maybe a new CB or cover for Mane.

 

Entitled to your opinion,but I suspect you'll be very much in the minority on this one.

This 100%.

 

One of many reasons we fell apart yesterday was that Firmino was not at his best, probably cause he wasn't fully fit. Or maybe he just had an off day, or being played in a different position. Or a combination of the three. Anyway he's been key to our pressing game this season, which is the both the basis for our attacking power as well as the first line of defence.

[The Woolster]

Have to ask questions of Firmino when Mane is our top scorer, Coutinho is level with him.

 

Looking back at the game today and he's nowhere near the area when we broke quickly.

 

That's my priority upgrade.

 

Have you considered the possibility that Firmino's creativity, movement and pressing has enabled his team mates to score and assist at rates that they've never done in the past...?

 

We have scored more goals after 14 games than all but 1 season over the last 50-60 years, surely he's a big reason for that?

[stringvest]

This 100%.

 

One of many reasons we fell apart yesterday was that Firmino was not at his best, probably cause he wasn't fully fit. Or maybe he just had an off day, or being played in a different position. Or a combination of the three. Anyway he's been key to our pressing game this season, which is the both the basis for our attacking power as well as the first line of defence.

 

 

I think Firmino is increasingly important to the way we play, certainly more than Coutinho.  

 

That said, I think Lallana is more important to the way we play than either of them.  Hopefully, we're about to find out.  

[Russ Atmosphere]

Freddy First-teamer is probably the most important to how we play because when Barry Bench-warmer fills in we play a bit turd.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

You cannot score goals sitting on your couch " injured " well unless you're playing FIFA.

[Paulie Dangerously]

Freddy First-teamer is probably the most important to how we play because when Barry Bench-warmer fills in we play a bit turd.

Is Gary Goals still available?

[Gym Beglin]

Have you considered the possibility that Firmino's creativity, movement and pressing has enabled his team mates to score and assist at rates that they've never done in the past...?

 

We have scored more goals after 14 games than all but 1 season over the last 50-60 years, surely he's a big reason for that?

Yes he is, undoubtedly, but Mane's pace is a key factor in making all this work. Firmino without Mane is very likely a different animal.

 

And, to be fair, Firmino only has 3 assists this season so far, which is less than Henderson, Lallana, and Coutinho.

[El Rojo]

Freddy First-teamer is probably the most important to how we play because when Barry Bench-warmer fills in we play a bit turd.

I support Freddy First-teamer FC not Barry Bench-warmer FC.

[TheHowieLama]

Firmino without Coutinho is a discussion. Mane does not make anyone around him better -- he opens up a little space because the other team has to take a step back. But we know Firmino is just as quick as Mane right? Cuz that is a fact. Of the three Mane is the least valuable.

And dont engage Funneee on anything to do with forwards or their contribution.

[moof]

Firmino is not as quick as mané. He's just not.

[Lee909]

Rumours going round that Van Dijk has a 25ml release fee but City,Ourselves and mancs all intetested

 

Id snap their hands off for that

[TheHowieLama]

Firmino is not as quick as mané. He's just not.

 

Apparently the scientific data disagrees with you.

[moof]

Apparently the scientific data disagrees with you.

Then the scientific data is wrong.

[TheHowieLama]

OK - so it is just scientific then

[Gym Beglin]

I don't want Van Dijk for £25m, and I don't think Southampton would risk the ire of their fans by selling yet another player to us, and if they did, they would almost double that to £50m due to John Stones' transfer fee to City, because Van Dijk is better than Stones.

 

So, for £50m, I'd rather we bought 3 great defenders and not just 1. To be honest I'm a bit sick of this merrygoround where Southampton beat us to great players early on because we have this insane misguided notion that clubs from lower-level teams can't possibly be good. No doubt we'll do the same thing with Dembele at Celtic, and Brandt at Leverkusen, and El Ghazi at Ajax etc. We'll just wait for someone else to make the initial move, like Southampton.