ISIS - To Attack or Not?

[SasaS]

Just now, Anny Road said:

Who do you suspect is in this refugee camp? Will be full of ISIS fighters. All it takes is a bit of coordination on there part and it could get vey nasty.

 

I suspect women and children, since the ISIS fighers, like her husband, are held in the POW camp. The Al-Hawl refugee camp is some 20km from the Iraqi border. The area is already crawling with intelligence operatives.

[Anny Road]

Shamima Begum moved after threats in Syria camp, says lawyer

Nineteen-year-old Briton and newborn son relocated to new camp due to ‘safety concerns’

Matthew Weaver and Nazia Parveen

Fri 1 Mar 2019 11.32 GMTFirst published on Fri 1 Mar 2019 08.05 GMT

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Shamima Begum and her baby have been moved from a Syrian refugee camp after threats were made against them, according to her family’s lawyer.

The 19-year-old and her son were moved from the al-Hawl camp in the north of the country to another site nearer the Iraqi border.

Begum, who left the UK in 2015 with two school friends to join Islamic State in Syria, said last month she wanted to return home for the health of her then unborn child. The home secretary, Sajid Javid, has ordered the British-born woman’s citizenship to be revoked.

Begum, who gave birth days after telling a Times journalist of her wish to return, has since said she wished she had kept a low profile.

The Sun reported on Friday that Begum had received death threats since speaking out about her plight. She and her son are said to have been moved to another camp nearer the Iraqi border.

Begum’s lawyer, Tasnime Akunjee, told the paper: “I can confirm that it is our understanding that Shamima has been moved from al-Hawl due to safety concerns around her and her baby. We further understand that indeed she and her child had been threatened by others at the al-Hawl camp.”

Akunjee told the Guardian he was preparing to fly out to meet Begum so she could sign appeal forms from the Home Office.

“We don’t want to waste time trying to work for her remotely,” he said. “She needs a lawyer and we need her to sign these forms so that we can begin the appeals process. We know she is in a camp but not her exact location, so we are trying to find this out at the moment from people on the ground.”

Her family have pleaded for the pair to be allowed to return home. They say the teenager should face justice if she is found to have broken the law by travelling to Syria. British officials, however, have ruled out any effort to extract Begum and her child from Syria.

[Anny Road]

Sounds charming.

Run by the Syrians not the UN.

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Yeah, what would Jewish people know about antisemitism, eh.

 

You have made a series of accusations about me today that are completely fabricated. Only one agenda-driven scumbag here and it's not me.

"A series of" 

 

SD you seriously are a complete shitbag, hypocrite and a liar. I only asked your opinion on a tweet seeing as you poke your opinionated snout into every other thing on here. Conveniently you claimed not to have an opinion. Which, as everyone knows, is a lie. 

[Rico1304]

4 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

Surely her own people ( ISIS ) would not harm her.

They tend not to like it when you change your mind about stuff.  

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Always going to happen given her high profile. 

[Anny Road]

Going in to get her could be a shit storm. She managed to get a lawyer phone a Uber.

[cloggypop]

This baby that was dead but now isn't needs to be renamed Jesus. 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Lazarisis

[Bjornebye]

Dave Makaveli 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

7 minutes ago, Anny Road said:

Going in to get her could be a shit storm. She managed to get a lawyer phone a Uber.

They cancelled on her, thought she said Surrey.

[Anny Road]

11 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

They cancelled on her, thought she said Surrey.

Surely any lawyer worth his salt can organise a car and get them out. Even into Damascus/Baghdad for the baby's sake.

[Rico1304]

I’d imagine there’s a bit of diplomatic pressure to leave her exactly where she is 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-03-08/is-bride-shamima-begums-baby-boy-has-died-sdf-confirms-to-itv-news/

 

very sad

[Pureblood]

Javid's fault.

[moof]

10 minutes ago, TK421 said:

Javid's fault.

What did you want him to do, mate? Absail in there himself, take out all the Syrians with his bare hands and carry her and the baby home to Britain on his back so she can just go on benefits and radicalise shoreditch job centre?

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, moof said:

What did you want him to do, mate? Absail in there himself, take out all the Syrians with his bare hands and carry her and the baby home to Britain on his back so she can just go on benefits and radicalise shoreditch job centre?

Convert the hipsters yes please 

[polymerpunkah]

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Speaking to the BBC before it was confirmed that the baby had died, Home Secretary Sajid Javid said: "Sadly there are probably many children, obviously perfectly innocent, who have been born in this war zone.

"I have nothing but sympathy for the children that have been dragged into this. This is a reminder of why it is so, so dangerous for anyone to be in this war zone."

Indeed.

 

[Hades]

8 hours ago, Section_31 said:

One of the big worries with the 'war on terror' was that the ethics of our own societies we were trying to protect would eventually be undone. We've turned into quite a petty, nasty, paranoid and all-round fearful bunch of arseholes. 

That's not terrorism. It's mainstream media selling fear and sensationalist nonsense.

[Dougie Do'ins]

12 hours ago, TK421 said:

Javid's fault.

No it's not. He didn't force her to go out there.

[Pureblood]

1 hour ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

No it's not. He didn't force her to go out there.

He is complicit with his dereliction of duty owed to a British citizen in dire distress (the baby).  The British public are complicit with their disgraceful acquiescence to his unlawful actions.  The mainstream media are complicit by failing to hold Javid to account in any meaningful way.  The whole episode is a damning indictment on the state of this sorry ass country.  

[Anny Road]

Surely you would just get on a plane and turn up if you were so concerned. Claim asylum.

You would not be sent back to a war zone and the lawyer could fight your case in the UK courts.

[Dougie Do'ins]

12 minutes ago, TK421 said:

He is complicit with his dereliction of duty owed to a British citizen in dire distress (the baby).  The British public are complicit with their disgraceful acquiescence to his unlawful actions.  The mainstream media are complicit by failing to hold Javid to account in any meaningful way.  The whole episode is a damning indictment on the state of this sorry ass country.  

What about the Dutch. Would the baby not have had dual nationality ?

 

What about Begums parents ? If we're taking about dereliction of duty, where do they fit into the blame game ?

 

What about Begum herself and her husband ?  

[Anny Road]

I'll wait for her book serialised in the Scum to pass full scorn.

[Pureblood]

3 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

What about the Dutch. Would the baby not have had dual nationality ?

 

What about Begums parents ? If we're taking about dereliction of duty, where do they fit into the blame game ?

 

What about Begum herself and her husband ?  

That's textbook whataboutery.  Javid needed to deal with the situation as he found it and get Begum and her baby home, because that was the urgent need.  It's too late for the baby now.

 

Once Begum was back in the UK then it would be appropriate to look into the questions you raise.