ISIS - To Attack or Not?

[Bjornebye]

"Your beautiful.... Here you are wear this over your face 

 

I think she smiled at me on the subway ..... "

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

You wouldn’t want your favourite sword to be blunt. To be blunt.

[Leyton388]

I thought these girls had some Tomahawk missiles land on them?

[Anny Road]

One did.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Think she is the only survivor. 

[Rico1304]

33 minutes ago, TK421 said:

So you think she just woke up one day and thought "I know, I'll join ISIS and marry some ISIS dude" for a laugh?  

 

I know you get easily flummoxed by these things but there are probably more nuanced factors at play.  I mean, it can't be easy being a Muslim in this country in a post 9/11 landscape.  At the age of 15 when she made her decision, she would have grown up and lived exclusively in a world where the mainstream media carried an overwhelmingly Islamophobic message.  It must have a terribly corrosive effect, particularly upon young Muslims. 

Do fuck off. Soft bigotry of low expectations.  

 

She wasn’t so traumatised in the UK (one of the safest places in the world for Muslims) that she went to another country that was beheading and raping people for being the wrong kind of Muslim.  What a fucking idiot you are.  

[Strontium]

My biggest worry about locking up an unrepentant terrorist in one of our prisons is that she might radicalise other inmates. This poisonous ideology spreads like a virus among vulnerable people.

[Pureblood]

Just now, Rico1304 said:

Do fuck off. Soft bigotry of low expectations.  

 

She wasn’t so traumatised in the UK (one of the safest places in the world for Muslims) that she went to another country that was beheading and raping people for being the wrong kind of Muslim.  What a fucking idiot you are.  

Don't get so triggered, snowflake.

 

Nuance and context are your friends.  Embrace them.

[Pureblood]

Just now, Strontium Dog said:

My biggest worry about locking up an unrepentant terrorist in one of our prisons is that she might radicalise other inmates. This poisonous ideology spreads like a virus among vulnerable people.

Ah, some much needed and unintentional comic relief.  

[Hades]

36 minutes ago, TK421 said:

So you think she just woke up one day and thought "I know, I'll join ISIS and marry some ISIS dude" for a laugh?  

 

I know you get easily flummoxed by these things but there are probably more nuanced factors at play.  I mean, it can't be easy being a Muslim in this country in a post 9/11 landscape.  At the age of 15 when she made her decision, she would have grown up and lived exclusively in a world where the mainstream media carried an overwhelmingly Islamophobic message.  It must have a terribly corrosive effect, particularly upon young Muslims. 

You're off base here Teek. This is standard for extreme Muslims and Zionists. Have enormous power but play the victim. For every young slag that went off dreaming of glory there are hundreds of hard-working, mentally troubled young Muslim or ex-Muslim men going through painful existential crises alone.

[deiseach]

The state of the chickenhawks on this thread.

[Anny Road]

Some people don’t appreciate the luxury they live in where Liberal values are protected by a military who willingly pull the trigger on their behalf. They just don’t like it when it is on the telly.

[Strontium]

4 minutes ago, TK421 said:

Ah, some much needed and unintentional comic relief.  

 

You think radicalisation in prison is funny? Will you be laughing if one of them blows you up?

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/islam-extremism-uk-prisons-radical-religion-jail-muslims-terrorism-a8554971.html

[Pureblood]

2 minutes ago, Hades said:

For every young slag that went off dreaming of glory there are hundreds of hard-working, mentally troubled young Muslim or ex-Muslim men going through painful existential crises alone.

With all due respect, Hades, you have your head stuck up your big fat arse. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

2 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Do fuck off. Soft bigotry of low expectations.  

 

She wasn’t so traumatised in the UK (one of the safest places in the world for Muslims) that she went to another country that was beheading and raping people for being the wrong kind of Muslim.  What a fucking idiot you are.  

Except that's the exact sort of radicalisation tactics that are used. It's not all "hey, do you want to come and cut some heads off?" 

 

They are often brainwashed with other things and blinded to the reality of what they're exposing themselves too. 

 

We, as a society, assume that most 15 year olds aren't wise enough or mentally developed enough to give full and informed consent to things like sexual intercourse, accessing certain forms of medication or to undergo surgery etc. So, why are we suggesting that the status quo didn't apply here and suggesting that she was fully clued up about what she was getting herself into?

[Pureblood]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

You think radicalisation in prison is funny?

It has the makings of a decent sit-com, yeah. 

[Hades]

4 minutes ago, TK421 said:

With all due respect, Hades, you have your head stuck up your big fat arse. 

You would have a point about socialisation etc. but these people see things through a narrative without admitting any of their own complicity ie. Arab slavery. In this sense, the left plays the role of useful idiot.

[Pureblood]

4 minutes ago, iPlop said:

Some people don’t appreciate the luxury they live in where Liberal values are protected by a military who willingly pull the trigger on their behalf. They just don’t like it when it is on the telly.

Yes, please protect my liberal values by trying to pass the Snooper's Charter in the name of the war on terror.  

[Pureblood]

Just now, Hades said:

You would have a point about socialisation etc. but these people see things through a narrative without admitting any of their own complicity ie. Arab slavery. In this sense, the left plays the role of useful idiot.

Sorry, but I don't take part in "these people" bantz.

 

One race = human race.

[Oh Buoy]

 

Lifey should ask her out on Facey. 

[Rico1304]

7 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Except that's the exact sort of radicalisation tactics that are used. It's not all "hey, do you want to come and cut some heads off?" 

 

They are often brainwashed with other things and blinded to the reality of what they're exposing themselves too. 

 

We, as a society, assume that most 15 year olds aren't wise enough or mentally developed enough to give full and informed consent to things like sexual intercourse, accessing certain forms of medication or to undergo surgery etc. So, why are we suggesting that the status quo didn't apply here and suggesting that she was fully clued up about what she was getting herself into?

They had a monthly magazine setting out exactly what they wanted, what they were doing and why they were doing it. 

 

By the time she went everyone in the world knew what was happening.  She even said she liked it there. She put her name down for a husband immediately. 

[Hades]

4 minutes ago, TK421 said:

Sorry, but I don't take part in "these people" bantz.

 

One race = human race.

I agree, we are all one consciousness, which is why we should point out supremacist death cults or immature puppets of foreign governments. 

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, .̯. said:

 

Lifey should ask her out on Facey. 

Why do you think she went to the front line in Syria in the first place? 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Hades said:

I agree, we are all one consciousness, which is why we should point out supremacist death cults or immature puppets of foreign governments. 

[mattyq]

1 hour ago, iPlop said:

She was not an innocent caught up in this though like a German wife.

If a UK citizen fled to Germany to marry a Nazi because she believed in the ideology bloody right they should be shot.

I'm failing to see the crime here... believing in stupid stuff isn't a criminal offence

We'd be locking up most of the Brexiteers if it was