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2 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

Yeah, I agree.... Although I think he might have been out about the same time thiago was, but he was fit before thiago. And while I know not everyone agrees with me, thiago does, he was shit for months with us and chamberlain couldn't even get 30 mins spells off the bench to replace him. And maybe full back would give him the same issue - they're both pretty physical jobs and maybe he doesn't have that anymore. He comes on and chases around and kind of looks fit, but maybe the sports science fellas know he doesn't have games in him. I do find it interesting we never hear about him being unhappy with his role. 

When Thiago was "shit", he was in the #6 role, covering for Fabinho. Oxlade was never going to get that gig.

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4 minutes ago, Grinch said:

 

Whatever site you've lifted that off is wrong.  Ask an Arsenal fan or two.

The only time I remember he was subbed in against United for about 20 minutes. Do you remember any others?

 

I don't speak to Arsenal fans - can you ask one for me and then report back with your findings?

 

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3 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

The only time I remember he was subbed in against United for about 20 minutes. Do you remember any others?

 

I don't speak to Arsenal fans - can you ask one for me and then report back with your findings?

 

 

Don't need to.  I know from chatting to mates at the time that were watching them week in week out that that's the first and last position he ever found any consistency in.

 

As usual with English footballers that get smoke blown up their arse for fuck all, the muppet thought he  knew better than one of the greatest managers of the pl era and didn't want to play there. 

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4 minutes ago, Grinch said:

 

Don't need to.  I know from chatting to mates at the time that were watching them week in week out that that's the first and last position he ever found any consistency in.

 

It never happened - they played that formation for about 6 matches and Bellerin was in more often than not.

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41 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

It never happened - they played that formation for about 6 matches and Bellerin was in more often than not.

 

Your sites are wrong.  I'll trust the opinion of mates who watched the games week in week out over someone using google years later.

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16 minutes ago, Grinch said:

 

Your sites are wrong.  I'll trust the opinion of mates who watched the games week in week out over someone using google years later.

There are no sites man - they played 3 at the back for the last couple of months in his last year. This was discussed in his thread months ago.

 

Ask your Arsenal mates which games if you have to. It is about the same length of time he was "good in midfield" for us. And Bellerin played more.

You have a better chance of playing RB for Liverpool than he does.

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3 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

He has looked best recently played at CF.

He never did this - it is an urban myth. I think he has played less than 100 minutes as a wingback. Henderson has played RB more often.

This is wrong. Here are a couple of higher profile samples.

 

The game where we spanked them.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.com/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2872139
 

The semi final of the FA cup where they beat City.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.com/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2839904

 

same position Reece James started in the CL final last month.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.com/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/3562547

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3 minutes ago, aRdja said:

This is wrong. In his last season he started at right wing back most games for Arsenal. Here are a couple of higher profile samples.

 

this is the game where we spanked them.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.com/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2872139
 

The semi final of the FA cup where they beat City.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.com/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/2839904

 

same position Reece James started in the CL final last month.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.com/spielbericht/index/spielbericht/3562547

Sorry man - as Grinch says - forget about the websites - but if we were to use these two examples he played about 80 minutes combined.  Yanked in the first three nil; down and came on as a sub to waste a minute in the second.

 

It never happened.

 

#urbanmyth

 

 

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8 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Sorry man - as Grinch says - forget about the websites - but if we were to use these two examples he played about 80 minutes combined.  Yanked in the first three nil; down and came on as a sub to waste a minute in the second.

 

It never happened.

 

#urbanmyth

 

 

He played 105 minutes in the FA cup semi final against City Howie. I watched loads of Arsenal. Lived in Islington at the time where most of the pubs nearby were Arsenal pubs. I’m happy to give you more examples. You’re wrong on this one I’m afraid.  Let’s just move on.

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6 minutes ago, aRdja said:

He played 105 minutes in FA cup semi final against City Howie. I watched loads of Arsenal. Lived in Islington at the time where most of the pubs nearby were Arsenal pubs. I’m happy to give you more examples. You’re wrong on this one I’m afraid.  Let’s just move on.

Can you just total up the minutes for Grinch? That seems to be the issue.

If he did a stint of 105 minutes I will happily amend my statement to 200 minutes total.

 

Hendo in with a solid 200 would imagine.

 

He never was or will be a right back or a right wing back - he may have played there a half dozen times.

 

 

#urbanmyth

 

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5 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Can you just total up the minutes for Grinch? That seems to be the issue.

If he did a stint of 105 minutes I will happily amend my statement to 200 minutes total.

 

Hendo in with a solid 200 would imagine.

 

He never was or will be a right back or a right wing back - he may have played there a half dozen times.

 

 

#urbanmyth

 

I don’t care about your argument with him. You first said “he never did this”, and then moved to “less than 100 minutes”, and now to “a half dozen times”. We all know where this is going right?

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The fixtures have been kind with the ACON so there major issue with that is gone

 

We only have 2 league games(Brentford H,Palace A) in that period, the first team would very likely not play in the cup games anyway. 

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7 minutes ago, aRdja said:

He played half a season at right wing back. You first said “he never did this”, and then moved to “less than 100 minutes”, and now to “a half dozen times”. We all know where this is going right?

No - I said this in response to a poster suggesting he could cover at RB:

 

He never did this - it is an urban myth. I think he has played less than 100 minutes as a wingback. Henderson has played RB more often.

 

No idea he had played 105 minutes in a Cup game - it is going to the point where we find out he may have played 200 minutes. Which for him would be half a season - but in reality it was about 6 games - and 200 minutes. You live and you learn.

That is where we are going - unless you point out he played 16 games there. But I don't think he did.

He will not play RB for us.

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1 hour ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I would have liked to have posted a photo of Hansen wearing his number 6 shirt to emphasise how shit this use of numbers to show positions is. That's without the squad number bollocks.

I've forgotten, did Ronnie Whelan used to wear 5 and mcMahon used to wear 8? With centre backs 4 and 6?

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11 minutes ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

I've forgotten, did Ronnie Whelan used to wear 5 and mcMahon used to wear 8? With centre backs 4 and 6?

In the traditional football, pre-squad, 442 sense, it was 5 and 6 at the back and 4 and 8 in the middle, with the 8 more attack-minded. 7 was right wing, and 11 left wing.

 

McMahon was 11, wasn't he?

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11 hours ago, m0e said:

In the traditional football, pre-squad, 442 sense, it was 5 and 6 at the back and 4 and 8 in the middle, with the 8 more attack-minded. 7 was right wing, and 11 left wing.

 

McMahon was 11, wasn't he?

Yeah,and big Jan Molby often wore 10 as a midfielder too. I think he wore 5 or 6 when he had his stint at centre half too.

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3 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Yeah,and big Jan Molby often wore 10 as a midfielder too. I think he wore 5 or 6 when he had his stint at centre half too.

He did. I also remember Molby wearing 7, firstly when Kenny was reigning it in, and then when Beardsley was dropped.

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On 16/06/2021 at 20:07, m0e said:

When Thiago was "shit", he was in the #6 role, covering for Fabinho. Oxlade was never going to get that gig.

Im sure Gini could. Or milner, they've both played 6 often enough and allowed chamberlain to play one of the more forward roles. Klopp just didn't thing he could do a job in any.midfiekd role. 

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On 16/06/2021 at 23:40, TheHowieLama said:

Can you just total up the minutes for Grinch? That seems to be the issue.

If he did a stint of 105 minutes I will happily amend my statement to 200 minutes total.

 

Hendo in with a solid 200 would imagine.

 

He never was or will be a right back or a right wing back - he may have played there a half dozen times.

 

 

#urbanmyth

 

This article

https://www-justarsenal-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.justarsenal.com/did-oxlade-chamberlain-leave-arsenal-over-his-positional-changes/85243/amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#amp_ct=1624099941792&amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=16240999117700&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.justarsenal.com%2Fdid-oxlade-chamberlain-leave-arsenal-over-his-positional-changes%2F85243

 

And this one

https://www-football-london.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.football.london/arsenal-fc/transfer-news/midfield-wing-back-oxlade-chamberlains-13527836.amp?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a6&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#amp_ct=1624100020986&amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=16240999117700&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.football.london%2Farsenal-fc%2Ftransfer-news%2Fmidfield-wing-back-oxlade-chamberlains-13527836

 

And this one

https://www.soccerbox.com/blog/alex-oxlade-chamberlain-reborn-right-wing-back

 

That took one google of "chamberlain at wing back" would suggest it certainly was a thing and was perceived positively by arsenal fans. 

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