Sadio Mane

[liverpoolsno9]

1 minute ago, an tha said:

Fit to play football versus fit for the guidelines laid down for this lark are very different things.

W.O.W......... HE. HAS. THE. VIRUS. Footballers have families too, footballers have elderly, high risk mums and dads, sons and daughters, relatives, you think it’s ridiculous that he has to miss games when he’s ‘fit’!!!!!!! Yeah, let’s play him, let him pass it on to the 20 odd players on the pitch who can then take it home to their families, are you for real?

[3 Stacks]

6 minutes ago, an tha said:

Fit to play football versus fit for the guidelines laid down for this lark are very different things.

 

Personally i think losing 20% of what would be our most likely starting line up to this shite and the threat of more for us and all clubs is a load of shite and rubbishes the sporting integrity.

You're worse than that other guy Strogonoff sometimes, fucking hell. So whiny. It's a virus, they're sick, they can't play football because they're contagious. Get over it. 

[dockers_strike]

1 hour ago, Lee909 said:

International break coming at the right time for once. 

 

Hopefully just a mild case, anyone know what happens if 5 or 6 players get it from one team? 

I think the PL clubs agreed, if you have 14 fit players with first team experience, you have to play a PL game else forfeit the 3 points.

 

If Sadio is self isolating, he'll be a massive miss for the Villa game in my opinion. As for the international break, I reckon there will be loads of positive tests when all these international players come back. It's an absolute joke FIFA and UEFA are pushing ahead with internationals. Leagues or rather clubs are going to suffer.

[an tha]

Just now, 3 Stacks said:

You're worse than that other guy Strogonoff sometimes, fucking hell. So whiny. It's a virus, they're sick, they can't play football because they're contagious. Get over it. 

I expect nothing different from  you - i can't remember exactly but i think we have clashed on this issue before.

 

If you are happy for a sporting competition to be heavily influenced by how lucky your squad is at navigating a virus that has the square root of fuck all to do with normal sporting endeavour then that is up to you.

 

Me - no i am not.

 

Let me ask you this - how fair and sporting do you think it would be if on last day of season we were facing Man City and title was on line and 48 hrs before game 4 of our key players were ruled out of the game because they had 'tested positive' for covid....?

[aRdja]

1 minute ago, an tha said:

I expect nothing different from  you - i can't remember exactly but i think we have clashed on this issue before.

 

If you are happy for a sporting competition to be heavily influenced by how lucky your squad is at navigating a virus that has the square root of fuck all to do with normal sporting endeavour then that is up to you.

 

Me - no i am not.

 

Let me ask you this - how fair and sporting do you think it would be if on last day of season we were facing Man City and title was on line and 48 hrs before game 4 of our key players were ruled out of the game because they had 'tested positive' for covid....?

What’s the alternative An tha? No football until the vaccine? Cos that’d be pretty grim.

[3 Stacks]

3 minutes ago, an tha said:

I expect nothing different from  you - i can't remember exactly but i think we have clashed on this issue before.

 

If you are happy for a sporting competition to be heavily influenced by how lucky your squad is at navigating a virus that has the square root of fuck all to do with normal sporting endeavour then that is up to you.

 

Me - no i am not.

 

Let me ask you this - how fair and sporting do you think it would be if on last day of season we were facing Man City and title was on line and 48 hrs before game 4 of our key players were ruled out of the game because they had 'tested positive' for covid....?

TLDR except the start because I can't be arsed. And yeah, you were the one comparing Covid to flu like an idiot to downplay it. Gee, why would someone take exception to that?

[cloggypop]

16 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I used to post the line ups on here before they were officially announced. They were usually right and the bloke that I got them from has said he's been told that we've had 6 positive tests in the playing squad. 

 

Although his source for the teams is no longer at the club, so not sure where he's got that info from. 

[an tha]

1 minute ago, aRdja said:

What’s the alternative An tha? No football until the vaccine? Cos that’d be pretty grim.

The vaccine?

 

What you think that is gonna be a golden bullet - news for you, it won't be...

 

The answer is Sadio Mane and all players should not be stopped from playing unless they can't actually play.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

2 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Very good. 

 

Have a blag rep. 

[an tha]

2 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

TLDR except the start because I can't be arsed. And yeah, you were the one comparing Covid to flu like an idiot to downplay it. Gee, why would someone take exception to that?

Do me a favour - stop replying to me and i'll happily save myself the bother of replying to you.

 

Ok?

[The Golden Eel]

3 minutes ago, an tha said:

The vaccine?

 

What you think that is gonna be a golden bullet - news for you, it won't be...

 

The answer is Sadio Mane and all players should not be stopped from playing unless they can't actually play.

So footballers should be exempt from having to self-isolate after testing positive? Is that really what you're saying?

[Arnaud]

5 minutes ago, an tha said:

The vaccine?

 

What you think that is gonna be a golden bullet - news for you, it won't be...

 

The answer is Sadio Mane and all players should not be stopped from playing unless they can't actually play.

You are not being serous , mate ? What are you from to say something do weird to many of us ?

[aRdja]

9 minutes ago, an tha said:

The vaccine?

 

What you think that is gonna be a golden bullet - news for you, it won't be...

 

The answer is Sadio Mane and all players should not be stopped from playing unless they can't actually play.

That would not be fair on the players, no? To be freely exposed to potentially deadly virus that has killed over a million people over the last 9 months?

[an tha]

Just now, The Golden Eel said:

So footballers should be exempt from having to self-isolate after testing positive? Is that really what you're saying?

I don't believe anyone should self isolate beacuse they have tested positive for a virus that overhwelmingly only really kills the old and frail - but that is just my view....

 

Clearly many others disagree - and that is fine...how you balance your view they should with sporting integrity is up to you and your choice.

[an tha]

1 minute ago, aRdja said:

That would not be fair on the players, no? To be freely exposed to potentially deadly virus that has killed over a million people over the last 9 months?

Tell me what is the average age of deaths from covid in the UK?

[Kevin D]

[aRdja]

8 minutes ago, an tha said:

Tell me what is the average age of deaths from covid in the UK?

I don’t think I should be doing your research on this An tha. You can tell me that number, but that’s beside the point. I mean these players are people like you and me. I wouldn’t want to be playing sports against or alongside someone with the virus, because I would like to be able to play with my lovely nephew and niece this weekend. The nephew is in kinder now, and you know if I give it to him, then he could spread it to his kinder mates... etc etc.

[liverpoolsno9]

30 minutes ago, an tha said:

The vaccine?

 

What you think that is gonna be a golden bullet - news for you, it won't be...

 

The answer is Sadio Mane and all players should not be stopped from playing unless they can't actually play.

 

Aaand the winner for ‘The most ridiculous post Ever’ goes to this whopper. 

[an tha]

19 minutes ago, aRdja said:

I don’t think I should be doing your research on this An tha. You can tell me that number, but that’s beside the point. I mean these players are people like you and me. I wouldn’t want to be playing sports against or alongside someone with the virus, because I would like to be able to play with my lovely nephew and niece this weekend. The nephew is in kinder now, and you know if I give it to him, then he could spread it to his kinder mates... etc etc.

The answer is 80.

 

This is an illness that overwhelmigly kills the old and frail, sadly....the overwhelming majority of young and healthy people who contract it will either not even know they have it or will have  an illness that is mild.

 

The chances of you or I contracting covid and dying from covid are tiny, really tiny - unless we are old/ill.

Yet here we are living with massive restrictions on our lives and even now letting it affect the teams elite football clubs are allowed to field 

I understand the fear that exists...People are living in fear because they have been force fed a narrative that there is this super deadly virus out there that is indiscrimanately killing people.

I do understand totally that it killed loads earlier in year at the start of it here when nobody caught on about it, when we were unprepared...but those deaths were overwhelmingly in care homes, other care settings and amongst the old and frail - the average age of covid deaths here is as said 80.

Now we are more clued up why can't we protect those people and those settings and at same time let the rest of us who it hardly affects crack on?

Way we are acting there will literally never be an end to this because the virus is here to stay, make no mistake, just like other viruses - we didn't destroy economies, society, put millions and millions out of work, make millions of peoples lives miserable etc etc for other viruses did we - it makes no sense to me why we are doing it for this one.....a virus that in the overwhelming number of the general public who get it people hardly even know they have it.

In terms of infections/positive cases/positive tests etc - personally i say the more the better really as long as they don't lead to massive deaths - which they aren't at present, as this gives us best shot at immunity developing and i am sure we could keep moving forward and get normality back if we protect the most vulnerable people and the most vulnerable settings....

Immunity may very well at the very least have a chance of building then....lockdowns etc don't help at all with immunity.

The grip of fear this virus has over people is because of how governments like ours have stood up up every day for months and tell us dozens of people died today from it.....they don't do the same for all the other thousands of deaths that occur every day from all sorts of things, and they don't provide any context into the numbers they quote like for example how for the last 3 months in the UK flu has more mentions on death certificates than covid has...

 

Anyway i am clearly in the minority with my view and you know what that is fine - i stand by what i believe, make no apologies for what i believe and ultimately accept what others believe/any criticism of what i believe.

 

I am not very articulate or very capable of making my point eloquently sadly so this article here largely sums up my position....i include elite sport in this.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54228649

 

 

[3 Stacks]

4 minutes ago, liverpoolsno9 said:

 

Aaand the winner for ‘The most ridiculous post Ever’ goes to this whopper. 

It's because he's a hysterical fanny who thinks Covid will specifically ruin Liverpool's season and his little mind not losing it over that possibility is more important than the well-being of players and proper safety protocols.

[an tha]

Just now, 3 Stacks said:

It's because he's a hysterical fanny who thinks Covid will specifically ruin Liverpool's season and his little mind not losing it over that possibility is more important than the well-being of players and proper safety protocols.

Do one, dickhead

[3 Stacks]

Just now, an tha said:

Do one, dickhead

Not wrong though, is it.

[an tha]

Just now, 3 Stacks said:

Not wrong though, is it.

In your head no.

 

Does not make you right.

[aRdja]

15 minutes ago, an tha said:

The answer is 80.

 

This is an illness that overwhelmigly kills the old and frail, sadly....the overwhelming majority of young and healthy people who contract it will either not even know they have it or will have  an illness that is mild.

 

The chances of you or I contracting covid and dying from covid are tiny, really tiny - unless we are old/ill.

Yet here we are living with massive restrictions on our lives and even now letting it affect the teams elite football clubs are allowed to field 

I understand the fear that exists...People are living in fear because they have been force fed a narrative that there is this super deadly virus out there that is indiscrimanately killing people.

I do understand totally that it killed loads earlier in year at the start of it here when nobody caught on about it, when we were unprepared...but those deaths were overwhelmingly in care homes, other care settings and amongst the old and frail - the average age of covid deaths here is as said 80.

Now we are more clued up why can't we protect those people and those settings and at same time let the rest of us who it hardly affects crack on?

Way we are acting there will literally never be an end to this because the virus is here to stay, make no mistake, just like other viruses - we didn't destroy economies, society, put millions and millions out of work, make millions of peoples lives miserable etc etc for other viruses did we - it makes no sense to me why we are doing it for this one.....a virus that in the overwhelming number of the general public who get it people hardly even know they have it.

In terms of infections/positive cases/positive tests etc - personally i say the more the better really as long as they don't lead to massive deaths - which they aren't at present, as this gives us best shot at immunity developing and i am sure we could keep moving forward and get normality back if we protect the most vulnerable people and the most vulnerable settings....

Immunity may very well at the very least have a chance of building then....lockdowns etc don't help at all with immunity.

The grip of fear this virus has over people is because of how governments like ours have stood up up every day for months and tell us dozens of people died today from it.....they don't do the same for all the other thousands of deaths that occur every day from all sorts of things, and they don't provide any context into the numbers they quote like for example how for the last 3 months in the UK flu has more mentions on death certificates than covid has...

 

Anyway i am clearly in the minority with my view and you know what that is fine - i stand by what i believe, make no apologies for what i believe and ultimately accept what others believe/any criticism of what i believe.

 

I am not very articulate or very capable of making my point eloquently sadly so this article here largely sums up my position....i include elite sport in this.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54228649

 

 

Football has restarted so that’s some way towards normality, but the one way to protect the “old and the frail” is for those with symptoms and especially those with the virus, to self-isolate right? You don’t want footballers spreading the virus to old, frail, sickly, care workers, meds, etc surely? 
 

I don’t really see a scenario for you that is genuinely workable. So you want footballers to play on if they test positive... should they be kept in a bubble then maybe? Footballers are not allowed to see their friends and family members for the whole season? How do you propose to stop footballers from spreading the virus to the community?

[cloggypop]

They can get off Tinder for a start.