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Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?  

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The country has been in the shitter since 2008 gave the Tories the austerity excuse and even if it was decided that Brexit was cancelled overnight there are a million and one things to sort out. Corbyn and Labour had the only manifesto showing the slightest inkling of moving forward positively last time and I think a lot of the country would see this in a general election campaign which limits the bias of the press.

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It was always going to be like this. If people think this is about Williamson, or that it will stop if they throw a few people under the bus, they are fucking barking. These people can’t be appeased 

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There is a piece in the Guardian about a jewish writer who has had to cancel a book signing tour in the UK as there was allegedly an overwhelming chance of his signings being attacked by Palestinian protesters. I read the whole thing with my mouth open wondering if it was a pisstake.

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There are government sponsored reports saying Brexit will be catastrophic.  Yet the leader of the opposition can’t take the lead. Fucking useless. 

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1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

There are government sponsored reports saying Brexit will be catastrophic.  Yet the leader of the opposition can’t take the lead. Fucking useless. 

You lost your right to an opinion when you voted Tory!

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3 hours ago, Barry Wom said:

I don't think labour has that privilege and can only be voted in when they're united and  don't have a leader with a target on his head from the press. 

That will never ever happen unless they get Tony Blair 2.0, which is not a labour party I would vote for.

 

The printed press are becoming less of an influence in politics, The S*N only sell about 1.4 million 'newspapers' these days. 

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2 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

There are government sponsored reports saying Brexit will be catastrophic.  Yet the leader of the opposition can’t take the lead. Fucking useless. 

What should he do exactly?  Brexit is an impossible problem for the two main parties due to them both having millions of supporters who have completely opposite views. The only realistic way forward is to keep allowing the tories to implode. 

 

We are four months away from the latest Brexit deadline. Boris won't get a better deal and won't be allowed to leave with no deal, so what then? Either a general election or a second referendum. If its a general election then how many people will vote to keep the man in charge who has failed to deliver Brexit? I can honestly see Boris losing both the election and his seat at the next GE. The Lib Dems will pull back a lot of the seats they lost in 2015 in strong remain areas, and The Brexit Party will probably get some seats in Strong Leave areas, but as we saw in Peterborough recently most people don't vote for a party on one issue. 

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On 28/06/2019 at 16:42, Captain Howdy said:

I’ve no horse in the race as I no longer vote but it’s clear as day to me that there is an agenda at play with this anti-semitism narrative but you have to admit that Corbyn has been utterly hopeless with his reply/defence to it, he’s like a rabbit in headlights, fight back for Christ’s sake man

Careful, now - suggesting that an obvious smear campaign should be called out for what it is is the kind of talk that got Chris Williamson into bother in the first place. 

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On 28/06/2019 at 22:44, lifetime fan said:

 

I don’t care who Starmer is enemies with. He’s spoken more sense on Brexit than anyone in the party. 

Starmer's line on Brexit is the party policy decided by Conference; no more, no less.

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8 hours ago, Jairzinho said:

Agreed Barry, the old mob of socialists will all get decimated by the press. The party having been gutted by Blair, Mandelson, etc, means there is a real paucity of 45-60 year old socialists. They're all McDonnell's generation or wet behind the ears.

 

Literally any Labour leader will get beasted by the media if he or she is serious about ending austerity, making tax fair, bringing back workplace democracy and opposing Israeli Apartheid.  Any Labour leader who isn't serious about those things isn't fit to be a Labour leader. The only question is  - who could survive a beasting like that? Personally, I think Corbyn is the likeliest candidate. 

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7 hours ago, moof said:

The only way he’d be able to minimise it is if he suited their interests. And if he suits their interests, he’s of little use to us as leader. 

 

 

"That's some catch, that Catch 22."

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I think its an uphill battle, especially with the "lefty BBC", so Lefty that i can see Iain Duncan-Smith say "and you have Jeremy Corbyn, who wants to do genuine harm to this country" on primetime news, and not be called out for it....I think it was Kuennsberg who interviewed him, who is in no way biased....because she said so, and Nick Robinson.....fuck off...

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7 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Careful, now - suggesting that an obvious smear campaign should be called out for what it is is the kind of talk that got Chris Williamson into bother in the first place. 

Still no comment on Lansman? He thinks Williamson shouldn’t be allowed back in.  What’s his agenda? 

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9 hours ago, MegadriveMan said:

What should he do exactly?  Brexit is an impossible problem for the two main parties due to them both having millions of supporters who have completely opposite views. The only realistic way forward is to keep allowing the tories to implode. 

 

We are four months away from the latest Brexit deadline. Boris won't get a better deal and won't be allowed to leave with no deal, so what then? Either a general election or a second referendum. If its a general election then how many people will vote to keep the man in charge who has failed to deliver Brexit? I can honestly see Boris losing both the election and his seat at the next GE. The Lib Dems will pull back a lot of the seats they lost in 2015 in strong remain areas, and The Brexit Party will probably get some seats in Strong Leave areas, but as we saw in Peterborough recently most people don't vote for a party on one issue. 

He should come out for the option that won’t destroy the country and the people he’s supposed to care about.  Talk about a Pyrrhic victory. 

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Just now, Rico1304 said:

He should come out for the option that won’t destroy the country and the people he’s supposed to care about.  Talk about a Pyrrhic victory. 

You shouldn’t have voted for a referendum then, should you. It’s very easy to tell others what they should be doing, but when it came down to it you voted for it. Why? Because you were voting for the people you care about. Yourself. How is that working out for you? 

 

Yeah, I’m sure he will get straight on listening to your advice. 

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8 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Still no comment on Lansman? He thinks Williamson shouldn’t be allowed back in.  What’s his agenda? 

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? 

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7 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Starmer's line on Brexit is the party policy decided by Conference; no more, no less.

 

And he’s managed to sell that policy better than anyone in the party. 

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7 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Nope. Nothing.  

This fucker seems to think he has some sort of trump card. Maybe he should actually outline what he thinks so people can actually reply to it. Maybe he should then wait for more than 24 minutes on a Sunday morning for a reply. 

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Len McCluskey wants a general election, but if no election would favour a public confirmatory vote on any deal. 

He was always opposed to a second vote, seems a significant shift to me.

 

Fundamentally opposed to a no deal, seems to be the reason for the shift. 

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1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

Still no comment on Lansman? He thinks Williamson shouldn’t be allowed back in.  What’s his agenda? 

Don't know.  Don't care.

 

Just as I'll never know every tiniest bit of LFC gossip as well as an obsessed Bitter, I'll never follow the minutiae of Labour Party he-said-she-said tittle-tattle as closely as you do.

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