Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

War-hungry Secretary of State Mike Pompeo promising to interfere in UK politics to prevent Corbyn becoming Prime Minister. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/09/mike-pompeo-leaked-recording-corbyn-labour-jewish-leaders

 

[Creator Supreme]

49 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

War-hungry Secretary of State Mike Pompeo promising to interfere in UK politics to prevent Corbyn becoming Prime Minister. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/09/mike-pompeo-leaked-recording-corbyn-labour-jewish-leaders

 

Got to love that special relationship!

[sir roger]

Special relationship :

 

ie Bend over and when we can be bothered we’ll come and bum you.

[Trumo]

On 07/06/2019 at 23:14, AngryofTuebrook said:

Always worth remembering that to be a member of the Jewish Labour Movement 

1.  you don't have to be a Labour Party member;

2.  you don't have to be Jewish

 

You do have to both of those things to join Jewish Voice for Labour, so I'm inclined to give more weight to their opinions. 

 

 

 

 

All sounds a bit Life of Brian that. "Jewish Labour Movement? Fuck off, we're the Jewish Voice for Labour!"

[AngryOfTuebrook]

4 hours ago, Trumo said:

 

All sounds a bit Life of Brian that. "Jewish Labour Movement? Fuck off, we're the Jewish Voice for Labour!"

There’s a standard Jewish joke about 3 Jews arguing with 4 different opinions. But when it comes to Corbyn and Labour, the media keep trying to tell us that "the Jewish community" are miraculously 100% solidly opposed to this massively racist existential threat.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Christ. 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/LeftieK13/status/1138136594622423041

[Creator Supreme]

Apparently there was a 'heated' meeting of the PLP tonight, usual cunts having a go at Corbyn!

 

If I was him I'd flambé a few of the cunts and then pack in and go down the allotment away from all the bullshit, let the cunts sort the mess out themselves, they're the fucking experts after all!

 

So glad I never joined Labour, far too many fuckheads! Vote Green

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

6 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

Apparently there was a 'heated' meeting of the PLP tonight, usual cunts having a go at Corbyn!

 

If I was him I'd flambé a few of the cunts and then pack in and go down the allotment away from all the bullshit, let the cunts sort the mess out themselves, they're the fucking experts after all!

 

So glad I never joined Labour, far too many fuckheads! Vote Green

Smeeth, Streeting, Hodge and Phillips were apparently the most vocal. I think a Labour PLP meeting would be more extraordinary if these shit stirrers didn't have something to say. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

13 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

Apparently there was a 'heated' meeting of the PLP tonight, usual cunts having a go at Corbyn!

 

If I was him I'd flambé a few of the cunts and then pack in and go down the allotment away from all the bullshit, let the cunts sort the mess out themselves, they're the fucking experts after all!

 

So glad I never joined Labour, far too many fuckheads! Vote Green

And what will voting Green achieve? 

[Creator Supreme]

17 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

And what will voting Green achieve? 

The end of austerity, the end of building on green belt, the end of the sell off of local parks, holding Labour to account in local politics were frankly around here they've had pretty much free reign for the last 20 years and have shown themselves up to be the lazy, corrupt, neo-con shitebags that have invaded the Labour ranks since Kinnock sold out clause 4!

 

And who knows, maybe green socialism will be the future, that's what I'm aiming for, that's why I pay my party fee every month!

[Section_31]

Hodge is nuts.

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 hours ago, Creator Supreme said:

The end of austerity, the end of building on green belt, the end of the sell off of local parks, holding Labour to account in local politics were frankly around here they've had pretty much free reign for the last 20 years and have shown themselves up to be the lazy, corrupt, neo-con shitebags that have invaded the Labour ranks since Kinnock sold out clause 4!

 

And who knows, maybe green socialism will be the future, that's what I'm aiming for, that's why I pay my party fee every month!

With 1 MP. Good going. 

[Strontium]

Once upon a time, Labour had no MPs. Food for thought.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

4 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

Once upon a time, Labour had no MPs. Food for thought.

And then the working class was given the vote.

 

There is no disenfranchised green class agitating for the right to vote; there's just a comparatively small number of people who support a minority party.

[polymerpunkah]

Once the machines take over and you go to a three day work week, people won't have to worry about making a living as much as they do now and the Green Party will take off.

 

That can't be too far in the future, can it?

[Strontium]

10 minutes ago, polymerpunkah said:

Once the machines take over and you go to a three day work week, people won't have to worry about making a living as much as they do now and the Green Party will take off.

 

That can't be too far in the future, can it?

 

Labour is actually planning for a 1.5 day week

 

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/10/plan-10-hour-working-week-75-paycut-labour-9878450/

 

[polymerpunkah]

Are they planning for a 1.5 day work week?

 

I didn't see that in the report.

 

http://autonomy.work/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/The-Ecological-Limits-of-Work-final.pdf

 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Don’t be bringing the evidence to the table. It doesn’t suit the agenda.  

[Strontium]

3 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Don’t be bringing the evidence to the table. It doesn’t suit the agenda.  

 

I already provided evidence in the form of a news article, so that's bizarre.

 

But if you want a citation directly from the report:

 

Lastly, the working week reductions above assume a linear and absolute decrease in working time, which would therefore not allow the use of working time reductions to offer jobs to the unemployed or to increase the working hours of the underemployed (which would require a more equal sharing out of current working hours). If we wished to achieve these social goods, an even more radical conclusion emerges: the actual sustainable work week, based on today’s levels of productivity and carbon intensity, would likely need to be well below 10 hours per week per person, even in relatively carbon-efficient economies such as Sweden.

 

 

[polymerpunkah]

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based on today’s levels of productivity and carbon intensity

So Labour is proposing that today's level of productivity and carbon intensity be maintained?

 

Is that what the report says?

 

[Bjornebye]

"If we wished to" isn't the same as "Planning to" 

[A Red]

1 1/2 day working week? Fuck that

[Guest Pistonbroke]

I've been in employment where I could have easily completed the work in one and a half days rather than the five days they expected. Mind you, that was back in the good old 80's. 

[Strontium]

10 minutes ago, polymerpunkah said:

So Labour is proposing that today's level of productivity and carbon intensity be maintained?

 

Is that what the report says?

 

I can't help feeling you'd be better off actually reading it.

[Pureblood]

10 minutes ago, A Red said:

1 1/2 day working week? Fuck that

Better vote Tory for the rest of your life just in case.