Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Rico1304]

Does Laura Murray have a new job ? Or was it mistake?  

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

10 hours ago, SasaS said:

 

Can we really classify Palo Alto as an Israeli company?

Look where the founders came from. Ex Israeli intellligence. 

Im not saying this makes them dodgy, just that everything  needs to be questioned, wh

[SasaS]

1 minute ago, arthur friedenreich said:

Look where the founders came from. Ex Israeli intellligence. 

Im not saying this makes them dodgy, just that everything  needs to be questioned, wh

 

I think it's one founder, who used to work for Checkpoint, others don't sound Israeli.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 hours ago, Rico1304 said:

Does Laura Murray have a new job ? Or was it mistake?  

Was what a mistake?

[Rico1304]

5 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Was what a mistake?

She was announced as acting head of complaints, then towed back as a mistake by Labour comms team. 

[moof]

When 

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

1 hour ago, SasaS said:

 

I think it's one founder, who used to work for Checkpoint, others don't sound Israeli.

Founded by Nir Zuk, from IFF unit 8200. Top cyber research unit in the Israeli conscripts. I’ve read a lot of them, they are fucking elite geeks.

[cloggypop]

If you don't use Checkpoint you are an antisemitic cunt. 

 

Bet you don't even own a Sodastream. 

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

7 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

If you don't use Checkpoint you are an antisemitic cunt. 

 

Bet you don't even own a Sodastream. 

Well sign me up and call me Jezzer. Seems to be a lot more Palo over here lately.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I've defended Corbyn, but I think he might struggle to shake off the latest historic example of his virulent antisemitism. 

 

https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/40500

[Rico1304]

7 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I've defended Corbyn, but I think he might struggle to shake off the latest historic example of his virulent antisemitism. 

 

https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/40500

So the DUP MPs who signed it are ok? 

[razor]

7 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I've defended Corbyn, but I think he might struggle to shake off the latest historic example of his virulent antisemitism. 

 

https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/40500

Sir Peter Bottomly accidentally signing into the wrong window there.  His vacant PornHub account must have had a day off.

[razor]

25 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

So the DUP MPs who signed it are ok? 

But what about Corbyn signing it?

[Rico1304]

1 minute ago, razor said:

But what about Corbyn signing it?

What about it? I don’t think he’s racist, I’ve said it loads of times on here. 

 

But if this is proof he’s not racist it’s also proof the DUP MPs who signed it aren’t racists. 

[Jose Jones]

Rico is like an Evertonian on this thread.  Knows more about the people, processes and politics of the Labour Party than an actual Labour supporter.

 

[Jose Jones]

Someone must have made that joke about 3 years ago right?

[razor]

It's funny because it's true, as Homer would say.

 

I'd like to see a "number of posts by poster" for this thread.

 

I'd bet the number dwarfs that in the one about the person he voted for, that's for sure.

[Section_31]

8 minutes ago, razor said:

It's funny because it's true, as Homer would say.

 

I'd like to see a "number of posts by poster" for this thread.

 

I'd bet the number dwarfs that in the one about the person he voted for, that's for sure.

It's the main source of fun he gets out of being here. Same with the Muslims thread. It lies dormant until he gets a Google alert from Breitbart or the Jewish Chronicle or whatever, posts it with a quip about 'you lot', waits for responses either reasoned or otherwise, doesn't debate them because he doesn't know - or care- enough about it, and finishes with his coup de grace about you being a member of a cult. 

 

Don't see the point myself. If I had a PlayStation 2 in the loft I'd rather get that down than go to all that hassle, but we each of us have our strange quirks and proclivities. 

[Hand Shandy]

Don't forget the standard 'Pay your subs!' jibe.

 

That never gets old.

[Rico1304]

17 minutes ago, razor said:

It's funny because it's true, as Homer would say.

 

I'd like to see a "number of posts by poster" for this thread.

 

I'd bet the number dwarfs that in the one about the person he voted for, that's for sure.

Where’s the William Wragg thread? 

 

Also, can you point to the forum rules detailing where I’m allowed to post? Ta. 

[Rico1304]

11 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

It's the main source of fun he gets out of being here. Same with the Muslims thread. It lies dormant until he gets a Google alert from Breitbart or the Jewish Chronicle or whatever, posts it with a quip about 'you lot', waits for responses either reasoned or otherwise, doesn't debate them because he doesn't know - or care- enough about it, and finishes with his coup de grace about you being a member of a cult. 

 

Don't see the point myself. If I had a PlayStation 2 in the loft I'd rather get that down than go to all that hassle, but we each of us have our strange quirks and proclivities. 

Just put me on ignore you mewling quim 

 

ha ha just wish I was as good or clever as you.  Imagine the power that would bring!!! Or not as the case may be. I await your Pulitzer Prize nomination for services to trade magazines. 

[Rico1304]

6 minutes ago, Hand Shandy said:

Don't forget the standard 'Pay your subs!' jibe.

 

That never gets old.

Then just pay them. 

[Rico1304]

 

[Denny Crane]

 

 

Britain needs a full inquiry into the poison of Islamophobia inside the Conservative Party

Peter Oborne

Published date: 5 March 2019 14:41 UTC|Last update: 18 hours 16 min ago

Something has gone hideously wrong with the modern Conservative Party and Theresa May is incapable of dealing with

 

On Tuesday, the Tory party suspended 14 party members for allegedly making anti-Muslim comments on social media. This should come as no surprise. 

It’s further shocking evidence that the Tory party has a very deep problem with Islamophobia. The party has been in denial about the problem for years.

 But let's try a mental experiment.

A mental experiment

Let’s imagine that a Conservative leader had abused parliamentary privilege and falsely accused an innocent rabbi of supporting terrorism from the floor of the Commons. 

Let's imagine that Tory MPs were in the habit of tweeting out virulent anti-Semitic propaganda - and with impunity. Let’s imagine that the leading Conservative strategist had reportedly advised not to focus attention on the votes of "fucking Jews". 

Let’s imagine that the Tory party fought the London mayor campaign on the basis of stirring up hostility to Jews. Let’s imagine that many Tory voters were virulently anti-semitic, and that one of the most famous Tory politicians - Boris Johnson - had publicly mocked certain Jews on the way that they dressed. 

 

And then been cleared of wrongdoing after an internal party investigation. And that all but a small minority of Jewish voters had turned their back on the Tories.

And finally, let’s imagine that the Conservative party was in flat denial that anything was wrong. 

And that senior party figures insisted that anti-semitism was not an issue inside the Conservative Party, with some going to the lengths of insisting that it could not exist because Jews did indeed present a threat to mainstream British society.

Decent people would say that the Conservative Party was barbaric, sick and that there was a deep, dark problem not just in the Conservative Party but also in British politics as a whole.

Mercifully that is not the case as far as anti-semitism is  concerned. 

Hostility to Islam

But substitute the word Muslim for the word Jew, and it has become clear that something has indeed gone hideously wrong with the modern Conservative party.

Last week, a poll conducted by the anti-fascist organisation Hope Not Hate found 49 percent of Tory voters felt that Islam was incompatible with the British way of life. 

 

 Zac Goldsmith, MP for Richmond Park, has never apologised for his mayoral campaign, which I am proud to have exposed in Middle East Eye almost three years ago.

 

 

Bob Blackman, Tory MP for Harrow East, received no punishment after sharing anti-Muslim social media posts by the former leader of the English Defence League Tommy Robinson. Nadine Dorries is another Tory MP who has endorsed Robinson with no comebacks from the Tory Party.

And only today we learn that Peter Lamb, a Tory councillor who was suspended from the Tory Party after issuing a series of foul Islamophobic tweets, is standing as a council candidate for the Conservatives in the local elections in May.

 

To his credit Lamb now says he deeply regrets his words and has resigned from the party. But the fact that the Tory Party allowed him back speaks eloquently of the depth of institutional Islamophobia.

Meanwhile just 11 percent of Muslims voted for the Tories at the last election. 

 

The media's role

No wonder that Sayeeda Warsi, the party’s most high-ranking Muslim politician, demanded a full independent inquiry into Islamophobia in the Conservative Party. 

On Tuesday, in an interview with the BBC, Warsi said Islamophobia has become "institutional" in the Conservative Party.

And how deeply depressing that she’s been ignored and shunned. Under pressure from critics, Tory MPs point to the presence of Sajid Javid, a Muslim, as home secretary.

 

This excuse is lame. Anti-semites down the ages have notoriously protested that "some of my best friends are Jewish". The fact that Ed Milliband was leader of the Labour Party from 2010 to 2015 is certainly not evidence that there is not an anti-Semitism problem in Labour.

How does the Conservative Party continue to behave like this? I have to point a finger at my own trade and state that the British media has a role here. 

Our newspapers have been running a campaign against anti-semitism, and rightly so. Anti-semitism is noxious and should be confronted wherever it occurs. But with the exception of the Guardian, there has been very little in the mainstream media about Tory Islamophobia. 

Chillingly, some argue that it does not exist at all. Others even want more. Here’s Rod Liddle in the Conservative-supporting Spectator magazine: "My own view is that there is not nearly enough Islamophobia within the Tory party." He continued: "Phobia implies these misgivings are irrational, when they are anything but."

A full inquiry

Imagine the reaction if Liddle had written that "there is not nearly enough anti-semitism within the Tory Party". There would have been national outrage - after peddling that kind of filth, Liddle would never have worked again in mainstream media. And rightly so.

There’s a very ugly double standard at work here. It's a double standard that the Conservative Party refuses to address. 

Tory leader Theresa May is clearly incapable of dealing with this problem. That is why Britain now needs a full independent inquiry into the poison of Islamophobia inside the Conservative Party.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/britain-needs-full-inquiry-poison-islamophobia-inside-conservative-party

[AngryOfTuebrook]

43 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

 

Tom Watson needs to fuck off to the Gimp XI.