Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

5 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Ha ha, I don’t have the intellig- clown! 

p.s. Failure to properly select an option from predictive text on a new phone that you're still getting used to (Huawei P20 Pro - great camera) doesn't show a lack of intelligence, Mr. Podcast. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

3 minutes ago, A Red said:

I'm not getting involved in your spat, its your issue and your business.

 

I'm interested in how you feel about the word "racist" thrown about as an accusation all over this place and the ramifications that could possibly have. Like I said i'm not referring to your run in with Rico

One is evidence based. The other is a classless untrue slur. 

[The Guest]

15 minutes ago, magicrat said:

To most Remain voters Labour were softer option. Did I say Labour were pledged to keep us in ?

I am not going repeat myself and neither am I thick . You want members to dictate policy and MP to closely adhere to that policy . My point was MP's have wider responsibilities and that should be recognised.  I want the Labour party elected but am extremely pissed off that they are not demolishing the Tories and have swung behind a second referendum . If we crash out of the EU Labour can put what it wants in a manifesto , it wont get elected.  You can blame men in suits again. 

Did I say that you said Labour pledged to keep us in?

 

You decided to use the vague “hard Brexit” term which means different things to different people.  It’s why I specifically told you what labours policy was and that people knew exactly what they were voting for which funnily enough is what Corbyn is trying to stick to.

 

You are living in a fantasy land on Brexit.  If Labour got behind a second referendum the tories would call a general election within the hour, be sitting on a fat majority within 6 weeks and doing whatever they wanted for the following 5 years.  I think members setting the policy is a great idea because it’s better than men in suits behind the scenes telling the electorate what they want which conveniently seems benefit the elite every single fucking time after they’ve got in power on some airy fairy manifesto.  The manifesto labour put together last time was fantastic along with the campaign itself.  With these fucking lizards leaving the party and/or being selected I think a win is more likely.

 

You’re one of these people who go on about trashing the worst Tory govt ever but what does that actually mean?  They’ve got a majority with the DUP that are terrified of a socialist govt and they constantly shit themselves before votes and change policy due to Labour.  They’ve also inflicted the biggest defeat on a govt in nearly a century.

 

If we crash out of the EU on a no deal it will be on the tories and you can absolutely guarantee a labour win in the next election as it will be crisis time.

[Rico1304]

7 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

p.s. Failure to properly select an option from predictive text on a new phone that you're still getting used to (Huawei P20 Pro - great camera) doesn't show a lack of intelligence, Mr. Podcast. 

Come on, even you must see the funny side of calling me stupid and fucking it up

[Numero Veinticinco]

Yeah, it wasn't very intellig of you, Nelly. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Just now, Hank Moody said:

Yeah, it wasn't very intellig of you, Nelly. 

It's th new pho

 

It keep cutt th en off word

[Hades]

10 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

One is evidence based. The other is a classless untrue slur. 

Have to disagree there guv'nor. Rico may well be a racist but simply disliking Islam isn't proof of it. Islam has many of its own conquests and subjects who see it as Palestinians see Israel.

[Strontium]

2 hours ago, Sugar Ape said:

What a strange line of attack. 

 

 

 

Luciana probably couldn't afford to rent Seb Corbyn's place, poor girl.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Hades said:

Have to disagree there guv'nor. Rico may well be a racist but simply disliking Islam it's proof of it

 

Agreed. It's the prejudice towards Muslims and the apologist comments for racism that are less easy to wipe away.

[Rico1304]

39 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

As with most subjects, he lacks the intellig to make his own points, so it's usually something from Twitter or a podcast. 

 

But, he shared this after an ISIS attack. He also said he'd have negged me if he hadn't used up his quota for disagreeing with the sentiment he shared. His initial sharing of this post and disagreeing with me when I questioned the merit of it suggests that he shares the sentiment of the Tweet he shared; re: Muslims and ISIS attacks. 

 

 

"We have to own the problem. We have to admit that this is a religious problem, and we need to renew our commitment to a secular country which treats all religions equally. I have believed in the importance ofsecularism all my life, and with every day that passes that belief grows stronger. Religion is no way to govern a nation. Not any religion, and not any nation.

ISIS is not America's problem, nor the British, nor the French. ISIS is not Syria or Iraq's problem. ISIS is a problem for Muslims. And if you can't admit that, you're not really a good Muslim either.

‪#‎LibertyFraternityEquality‬

‪#‎LongLiveTheRepublic

Right, apologies for the delay. Was just getting the train. 

 

So, which bit of that is racist?  

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

3 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Right, apologies for the delay. Was just getting the train. 

 

So, which bit of that is racist?  

Deflect... 

 

I didn't say it was racist. Earlier today, you asked for proof that you'd said all Muslims shared responsibility for ISIS attacks. 

 

You've posted a Tweet which describes such incidents as a Muslim problem. And then disagreed with me when I questioned that stance. This suggests that you approve of the claim that ISIS attacks are a Muslim problem. 

 

Does everything have to be broken down and explained to you? 

[Rico1304]

46 minutes ago, Hank Moody said:

I've no idea if Rico said that Muslims should speak out or not. The worst that would condemn him for is hypocrisy. I've seen worst than that from the two minute search I just did, like admitting prejudging Muslim when he said he just has to 'hear the word Muslim' and he 'picture(s) someone who follows a stone ages belief system'. He also considers Muslims to be 'pretty good at [killing people]' and that the majority of them 'rioted and sent death threats' over the Danish cartoon. Even then, it's more to do with building on that prejudice by repeatedly posting negative stuff. It's clear to me that he has quite a problem with Muslims. The real low point for me, and the point that I actually switch from being a bit 'trollish' to believing he might well just be a bit of an old fashioned, right-wing racist (rather than some neo-nazi skin head) was the blind defence of some pretty horribly racist shit. Still, I guess if he wants to rely on people's lack of being arsed to trawl through literally hundreds of pages of text from the last 10 years, he's going to get away with it because he's not overtly racist, shouting racist abuse every two minutes. That, of course, doesn't mean he isn't prejudiced. To me, he quite obviously is.

I’m not enjoying quoting this cunt, but I suppose I have to defend myself. 

 

- Islam is a Stone Age belief system, just like Christianity, Judaism etc. 

 

- The data seems to show that Muslims believe the book and take its instructions re homosexuality and apostasy very seriously.  Indeed when asked they tell pollsters. 

 

- ‘the majority’ rioted? That’s clearly not the case. Can you link to the post rather than a partial quote?  I suspect you’ve quote mined me but if that’s what I said it’s clearly wrong as 1 billion people rioting would be memorable.  

 

- fancy looking through the Darwin v Bible for any quotes about Christians?  I bet I said they are all bent, I usually do. I’ll save you the bother and have a peak myself.  

[Rico1304]

1 minute ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Deflect... 

 

I didn't say it was racist. Earlier today, you asked for proof that you'd said all Muslims shared responsibility for ISIS attacks. 

 

You've posted a Tweet which describes such incidents as a Muslim problem. And then disagreed with me when I questioned that stance. This suggests that you approve of the claim that ISIS attacks are a Muslim problem. 

 

Does everything have to be broken down and explained to you? 

I don’t think you can read.  

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

4 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I don’t think you can read.  

TK was right with his silver platter mark. 

[Rico1304]

From the Guardian;

 

In a single day, the Labour party has lost Luciana Berger and “gained” Derek Hatton. As swaps go, this isn’t dissimilar to giving someone an orgasm and them giving you gonorrhoea

[Rico1304]

Just now, Nelly-Torres said:

TK was right with his silver platter mark. 

Mate, TK thinks 9/11 was an inside job.  He’s a dribble chinned wombat. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

- Islam is a Stone Age belief system, just like Christianity, Judaism etc.

The fact that you chose to say this, rather than acknowledge that you said you prejudge all Muslims says quite a lot about where your head is at here. You are prejudice towards Muslims, why can't you just admit that? Be honest with yourself. 

 

Funny how you've not defended your comments about them being pretty good killers, or your defence of a racist, rather talking about Christians. Pft. You need to calm yourself down a bit. Your heart is probably in the right place, but you're posting negative shit all the time, every post you make is either an argument, a dig, or some fucking link to something shitty. Just do yourself a favour and be normal for a bit. 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

1 minute ago, Rico1304 said:

Mate, TK thinks 9/11 was an inside job.  He’s a dribble chinned wombat. 

Any chance you can delete the "mate" bit?

[Numero Veinticinco]

4 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Any chance you can delete the "mate" bit?

Somebody might see it and it could impact your professional life?

[Red Phoenix]

9 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Mate, TK thinks 9/11 was an inside job.  He’s a dribble chinned wombat. 

 

Leave our conspiracy theories alone Tory, or I'll call in the Reptilians.

 

Hopefully you've still got time to edit your post. And leave wombats alone too.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

If anybody has said anything racist on here, here's a new defence for you... 

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/angela-smith-says-she-made-funny-tinge-gaffe-because-she-was-very-very-tired_uk_5c6c361fe4b0867082dee173

[cloggypop]

10 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Leave our conspiracy theories alone Tory, or I'll call in the Reptilians.

 

Hopefully you've still got time to edit your post. And leave wombats alone too.

What are you suggesting he does with wombats? 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I see Tom Bower (the author of the Corbyn gossip book) referred to a left leaning journalist as a "self hating jew" on live TV today. 

 

Surprisingly, I'm yet to hear the Daily Mail/Rachel Riley/Oberman et al's opinion on this? 

[Anubis]

1 hour ago, A Red said:

I'm not getting involved in your spat, its your issue and your business.

 

I'm interested in how you feel about the word "racist" thrown about as an accusation all over this place and the ramifications that could possibly have. Like I said i'm not referring to your run in with Rico

 

Apologies for the delay in replying, but worked intervened. I think people need to take a step back before they drop labels on people for the reasons I outlined in my post to Rico, but ultimately they need to deal with it themselves, or have the mods deal with it if they feel they’ve been wronged.

[Red Phoenix]

4 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

What are you suggesting he does with wombats? 

 

He's been radicalizing them. Some are probably in Syria or Iraq right now trying to take back territory.