Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Vincent Vega]

1 minute ago, cloggypop said:

Social Democrat Reformist Party in a couple of years then. If they actually go ahead with it. 

 

The Liberal Reformist Party is more likely.

[cloggypop]

1 minute ago, Vincent Vega said:

 

The Liberal Reformist Party is more likely.

Aye, corrected before you posted. Only just got up. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

The Blair Rich Project?

 

[Jairzinho]

Can they not just join the Lib Dems? Or are they too left wing?

[Vincent Vega]

2 minutes ago, Hank Moody said:

The Tories must be laughing their cocks off. 

 

Indeed, how on earth can anybody from the Labour movement believe this is a good idea? Have they completely ignored what happened with the SDP, and that its formation led to another 13 years of the Tories in power?

[Section_31]

5 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

The Blair Rich Project?

 

Outstanding

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

 

Indeed, how on earth can anybody from the Labour movement believe this is a good idea? Have they completely ignored what happened with the SDP, and that its formation led to another 13 years of the Tories in power?

The left has eaten itself. Ideals over power to put ideals into place. They’ve all got cushy jobs anyway. They’re playing a game rather than getting things done. I’m honestly fucking sick of politics. The left wing that I’ve been a part of my entire life is a fucking shambles. 

[Denny Crane]

6 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

 

Indeed, how on earth can anybody from the Labour movement believe this is a good idea? Have they completely ignored what happened with the SDP, and that its formation led to another 13 years of the Tories in power?

 

Not sure many apart from themselves would compare this four or five to the gravitas of Roy Jenkins and Shirley Williams. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

43 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Outstanding

I thought so. (That's why I nicked it.)

[AngryOfTuebrook]

54 minutes ago, Denny Crane said:

 

Not sure many apart from themselves would compare this four or five to the gravitas of Roy Jenkins and Shirley Williams. 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

This is a fair point.

 

 

[Captain Howdy]

1 hour ago, Vincent Vega said:

 

Nick Boles, Alan Duncan and Sarah Wollastone all under threat of deselection according to The Telegraph this morning. UKIP infiltration alleged by Anna Soubry.

 

It's just a bed of roses in the Tory party.

Which makes it all the more irksome that they would still more than likely be returned to office, as has been said this is hands down the worst Government in living memory, it’s virtually an open goal and Labour should be so far ahead you should need a hubble telescope to see them, that they are probably behind really does say everything.

[deiseach]

1 hour ago, Vincent Vega said:

 

Indeed, how on earth can anybody from the Labour movement believe this is a good idea? Have they completely ignored what happened with the SDP, and that its formation led to another 13 years of the Tories in power?

Yep. The best-case scenario - dozens of MP's from both Labour and the Tories join them leading to the long-needed realignment of British politics - is can't-be-seen-by-the-Hubble-telescope unlikely. The worst-case scenario - successive landslide Tory election victories with around 40% of the vote - is the single most likely scenario. Foolishness.

[Denny Crane]

8 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

This is a fair point.

 

 

 

The obsession with politics should be done in a certain way and certain policies must be adhered to. Reminds me of the English obsession with 4-4- fucking-2. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

If Berger is doing one, it looks like Wavertree CLP were right all along and are owed some grovelling apologies. 

 

Also, forget not standing in their constituency, put their money where their mouth is and call a by-election now, to show that they were elected based on their own merit, rather than on the back of the ideology and policies of the party they're now scurrying away from. 

 

They're probably too chicken to do that. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Nelly-Torres said:

If Berger is doing one, it looks like Wavertree CLP were right all along and are owed some grovelling apologies. 

 

Also, forget not standing in their constituency, put their money where their mouth is and call a by-election now, to show that they were elected based on their own merit, rather than on the back of the ideology and policies of the party they're now scurrying away from. 

 

They're probably too chicken to do that. 

I think that's a fair post.

[Vincent Vega]

So seven of them have gone and quit.

[M_B]

7 have resigned.

 

@ChukaUmunna
- @MikeGapes
- @lucianaberger
- @anncoffey_mp
- @ChrisLeslieMP
- @gavinshuker
- @angelasmithmp

[Vincent Vega]

Luciana Berger

Chuka Umunna

Chris Leslie

Ann Coffey

Gavin Shuker

Angela Smith

Mike Gapes

 

I had to actually look up the bottom four.

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, M_B said:

7 have resigned.

 

@ChukaUmunna
- @MikeGapes
- @lucianaberger
- @anncoffey_mp
- @ChrisLeslieMP
- @gavinshuker
- @angelasmithmp

Heh. Nice. I assume Umunna is leading this gaggle?

[Denny Crane]

Sounds like no new party just a bunch of people who want all the benefits of being parliamentarians without any of the risk. 

[Pureblood]

Does anyone care who these nobodies are?  Fuckety bye with your great "values". 

[Rico1304]

Ann Coffey is Stockport.  Very good local MP, been in the job for 26 years. 

[Hades]

The left is utter shite in most countries but unless we're starting our own parties it's still the lesser of two evils. I'd rather psychopaths that do a tiny bit of good versus psychopaths that don't do even that.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Honestly, I've got no issue with people resigning from a political party if they feel the party doesn't reflect their values. If you think a party is or has become institutionally racist and the leader is unfit, resigning is probably the only honourable thing to do.