Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Jairzinho]

We need to stop the Democratic Socialist party being taken over by far left Social Democrats.

[aRdja]

1 hour ago, Jose Jones said:

Spot on. @moof has been using his socialist mind powers to control all the Labour Party members.

Again.

Be honest, do you want moof replaced?

[moof]

1 hour ago, Jose Jones said:

Spot on. @moof has been using his socialist mind powers to control all the Labour Party members.

Again.

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

38 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Be honest, do you want moof replaced?

Yes. With Dennis Tooth. Or just merge them into Dennis Mooth.

[Boss]

4 hours ago, The Guest said:

Stop reading the daily mail.  The “Moderate voices” are actually rightwing voices.  The “far left” are just left wing and probably more moderate left when you look at the policies.  They basically just want to roll back the right wing economic decisions that have been made in recent years like dropout corporation tax to the laughable low it’s going to become and get rid of the disgusting level of tuition fees which are going to bankrupt the country in the long run.  Far left would be introducing a top rate of tax of 90%, renationalising every industry possible, making child care free etc which isn’t happening.

They are not right wing voices though. They simply understand that businesses grow the economy, not employees, and have a more business orientated model. Lets analyse Lucina Bergers voting record on welfare

 

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24924/luciana_berger/liverpool,_wavertree/votes#welfare

 

Is that a right wing voting pattern to you? Analyse her voting record on healthcare, education, environmental issues etc... they all dovetail perfectly with left wing values. If that's right wing, then left of that would be Marxism / Communism. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

25 minutes ago, Boss said:

They are not right wing voices though. They simply understand that businesses grow the economy, not employees, and have a more business orientated model. Lets analyse Lucina Bergers voting record on welfare

 

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24924/luciana_berger/liverpool,_wavertree/votes#welfare

 

Is that a right wing voting pattern to you? Analyse her voting record on healthcare, education, environmental issues etc... they all dovetail perfectly with left wing values. If that's right wing, then left of that would be Marxism / Communism. 

We're talking about the Labour Party.  The handful of names mentioned in the last few pages are very much on the right of the party (although they are clearly to the left of the Tories).

 

And "businesses grow the economy, not employees" is an embarrassingly illiterate load of old cock.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Berger slags off the leader at every given opportunity. I'd question the usefulness of that, but you can argue she's entitled to do that. However, when she fails to confirm her continued and ongoing loyalty to THE PARTY, members have every right to voice their dissatisfaction, in my opinion. 

 

Fuck left and right and in the middle or whatever. It's as simple as that, for me. Don't back the party? Well, don't moan or claim to be a victim of bullying if the local CLP members lose faith in you. 

[Boss]

2 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Berger slags off the leader at every given opportunity. I'd question the usefulness of that, but you can argue she's entitled to do that. However, when she fails to confirm her continued and ongoing loyalty to THE PARTY, members have every right to voice their dissatisfaction, in my opinion. 

 

Fuck left and right and in the middle or whatever. It's as simple as that, for me. Don't back the party? Well, don't moan or claim to be a victim of bullying if the local CLP members lose faith in you. 

When has she not backed the party?  She votes in line with the party on almost all issues and has backed the party for the next general election. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

9 minutes ago, Boss said:

When has she not backed the party?  She votes in line with the party on almost all issues and has backed the party for the next general election. 

Not refusing to say "a Labour Government would be good for the country" would be a nice place to start, like.

[Boss]

1 minute ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Not refusing to say "a Labour Government would be good for the country" would be a nice place to start, like.

The question that was put to her was "would a Jeremy Corbyn government be brilliant news for Britain?" not "would a Labour Government be good news for the country?". 

 

Her answer was, and I quote : "I'm a Labour MP so I want a Labour government over a Conservative government. I want a Labour government".

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

On Peston a few days back. She refused to rule out leaving the party to join the new centrist party that is due to be set up, if rumours are to be believed. 

[Strontium]

A party demanding an ostentatious display of loyalty from a heavily pregnant woman who was kept in the dark by said party about material threats against her person, is not a good look.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

1 hour ago, Boss said:

The question that was put to her was "would a Jeremy Corbyn government be brilliant news for Britain?" not "would a Labour Government be good news for the country?". 

 

Her answer was, and I quote : "I'm a Labour MP so I want a Labour government over a Conservative government. I want a Labour government".

She could have just said, “Well as Jeremy Corbyn is the Labour leader, and as I want a Labour government my answer would be yes”

[Boss]

9 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

One of the speakers at a launch event for Turning Point UK reckons Hitler would have been fine if he'd stayed in Germany.

 

https://forward.com/fast-forward/419053/candace-owens-turning-point-usa-hitler-germany/

 

Media hysteria about Tory anti-Semitism incoming in 10...9...8...   ...  ...  ...

Candace Owens is an American Trump supporter. She was speaking at an event in the UK that is not affiliated with the Tory Party. She was saying if Hitler stayed in Germany things might've been different, which is plausible considering we declared war after Germany invaded Poland. We declared war because Germany were aggressively expanding into other countries.

[SasaS]

Aggresively expanding into other countries... was he running a supermarket chain?

[Jairzinho]

10 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Aggresively expanding into other countries... was he running a supermarket chain?

Aggressively expanding > Aggressively monitoring.

[Strontium]

20 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Aggresively expanding into other countries... was he running a supermarket chain?

 

Heron Volk Foods.

[cloggypop]

Ersatz Aldi

[Denny Crane]

1 hour ago, Boss said:

Candace Owens is an American Trump supporter. She was speaking at an event in the UK that is not affiliated with the Tory Party. She was saying if Hitler stayed in Germany things might've been different, which is plausible considering we declared war after Germany invaded Poland. We declared war because Germany were aggressively expanding into other countries.

 

Her inference seems to be if he kept all that genocidey stuff in Germany it was cool. It's one thing to discuss nationalism but another to invoke the Nazis. Candace Owens might want to be a bit more careful and thoughtful how she speaks.

 

Not affiliated and some Conservative members are apprehensive but some prominent Conservatives were pushing it to counteract Momentum. Have a full read of this huff piece below if you haven't read it. 

 

“In the same way that momentum has grabbed hold of the left in the UK and that now controls the narrative, the Conservative party wants to control the narrative about right-wing politics in the UK," Farmer told BuzzFeed News.

“We're not going to let them be in control.”

 

 

 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/alexspence/pro-trump-turning-point-loses-star-activists?__twitter_impression=true

[Anubis]

8 hours ago, Content Providicus said:

We need to stop the Democratic Socialist party being taken over by far left Social Democrats.

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

He was just a Lidl bit too genocidal for my liking. 

[Boss]

Albeit Machtdonalds Freid Chicken

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 hours ago, Boss said:

Candace Owens is an American Trump supporter. She was speaking at an event in the UK that is not affiliated with the Tory Party. She was saying if Hitler stayed in Germany things might've been different, which is plausible considering we declared war after Germany invaded Poland. We declared war because Germany were aggressively expanding into other countries.

It was a launch event for an organisation that Mogg & co have been banging the drum for.

 

And, yes, things would have been different if the Nazis had only exterminated Jews, Roma, disabled people, gays, Socialists, etc. within Germany's borders.

 

The word she used was "fine". That would have been "fine".

[Boss]

1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

It was a launch event for an organisation that Mogg & co have been banging the drum for.

 

And, yes, things would have been different if the Nazis had only exterminated Jews, Roma, disabled people, gays, Socialists, etc. within Germany's borders.

 

The word she used was "fine". That would have been "fine".

Yeah, she's very foolish. No arguments there. She also said Hitler was a globalist.

[polymerpunkah]

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