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Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?  

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8 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I agree with this to an extent but I also think one of the principal weapons of the establishment is sowing despondency.  

 

The idea that there's no point voting, or that the candidates are all the same, is something that's actively encouraged. 

 

I've said a few times that it's telling that Labour were miles behind in the poles before the election was called and we entered purdah.

 

The media then had no choice - legally - but to give both sides an equal shake.

 

Three things happened:

 

Corbyn got more popular 

Labour climbed in the poles 

May got less popular 

 

It's hard to overstate how much power the media have over how we perceive these people. Even without including the big scandals of Corbyn wearing an M&S raincoat for example. There's subtle stuff, calling him Corbyn and calling Johnson 'Boris'. 

Or the way they doorstep him every single day outside his house hoping for him to react.

I agree with all of the above apart from the doorstep. 

They know he won't react, he has stated numerous times that he will never answer questions on the doorstep. 

They then sell the narrative, why won't he answer perfectly reasonable questions, what is he hiding ? 

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3 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Best thing for the Labour party would be to replace Corbyn with Burnham. As wrong as it is, the Tory slander over Corbyn has reduced his credibility as a PM in too many minds. 

The membership would be down to about 100k by the end of the week.

 

I wouldn't vote for Burnham.

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6 minutes ago, Content Providicus said:

The membership would be down to about 100k by the end of the week.

 

I wouldn't vote for Burnham.

Does having membership mean your vote counts double in the general election? I'm surprised that Labour didn't win last time out then.

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1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

*snip*

 

Three things happened:

 

Corbyn got more popular 

Labour climbed in the poles 

May got less popular 

 

It's hard to overstate how much power the media have over how we perceive these people. Even without including the big scandals of Corbyn wearing an M&S raincoat for example. There's subtle stuff, calling him Corbyn and calling Johnson 'Boris'. 

Or the way they doorstep him every single day outside his house hoping for him to react.

They're really pushing hard for that immigrant vote.

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6 minutes ago, Content Providicus said:

The membership would be down to about 100k by the end of the week.

 

I wouldn't vote for Burnham.

 

Burnham is a decent enough bloke but he’s no leader. 

 

I desperately want to see a socialist leader of the Labour Party and a socialist PM, Corbyn is the last chance of that ever happening. 

 

If he fails I’d have Keir Starmer as leader in a shot. 

 

Fuck the likes of Cooper, Chuka and the rest of the established Blair clones. 

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18 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Does having membership mean your vote counts double in the general election? I'm surprised that Labour didn't win last time out then.

Obviously membership is irrelevant. Good luck to all candidates going door to door 24/7 for about six months.

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6 minutes ago, Content Providicus said:

I'd prefer a socialist.

 

As I said, so would I! 

 

Failing that I want a leader who will actually become PM. 

 

Starmer pisses all over the ‘others’. 

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1 hour ago, Content Providicus said:

Fair enough. I wouldn't vote for someone that isn't a socialist.

 

If Corbyn doesn’t win the next election there won’t ever be a socialist leader of the Labour Party again. 

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1 hour ago, Content Providicus said:

Fair enough. I wouldn't vote for someone that isn't a socialist.

 

If Corbyn doesn’t win the next election there won’t ever be a socialist leader of the Labour Party again. 

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5 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Best thing for the Labour party would be to replace Corbyn with Burnham. As wrong as it is, the Tory slander over Corbyn has reduced his credibility as a PM in too many minds. 

You're always going on about Andy Burnham. Let it go Stig, you're never going to meet him.

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3 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

 

If Corbyn doesn’t win the next election there won’t ever be a socialist leader of the Labour Party again. 

Why would the members suddenly decide to elect a centrist?

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31 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

You're always going on about Andy Burnham. Let it go Stig, you're never going to meet him.

But those eyes...

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50 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

You're always going on about Andy Burnham. Let it go Stig, you're never going to shag him.

Fixed.

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6 hours ago, Section_31 said:

I agree with this to an extent but I also think one of the principal weapons of the establishment is sowing despondency.  

 

The idea that there's no point voting, or that the candidates are all the same, is something that's actively encouraged. 

 

I've said a few times that it's telling that Labour were miles behind in the poles before the election was called and we entered purdah.

 

The media then had no choice - legally - but to give both sides an equal shake.

 

Three things happened:

 

Corbyn got more popular 

Labour climbed in the poles 

May got less popular 

 

It's hard to overstate how much power the media have over how we perceive these people. Even without including the big scandals of Corbyn wearing an M&S raincoat for example. There's subtle stuff, calling him Corbyn and calling Johnson 'Boris'. 

Or the way they doorstep him every single day outside his house hoping for him to react.

 

I agree mate, I said in my post that the media have done a good job on him. Even the tv news coverage has been ridiculously biased in the way they cover Labour under Corbyn. Emily Maitlis was a disgrace on Newsnight last night, and Matt Frei was at it this morning on LBC. It’s just constant, and is the main reason I think it would be impossible for him to become prime minister.

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He's only guilty of being Daniel Pearce Jackson Hodges. That is his crime. It is also his punishment. Defence rests.

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